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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 17, 2021 19:51:53 GMT
Sounds like he was the only option left and he was on trial for a few weeks before he signed. Hamstring injuries are frustrating, but player’s have over come them before. I remember listening to Dyer talking about it before. For years he suffered, then when they got to the bottom of it, he was ok. Suffered with similar problems myself in the past. Has it really got to the desperate stage where "the only option left" was a soon to be 37-year-old rejected by a National League North club? It was obviously because of financial reasons, not because he’s not good enough for them😂
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 17, 2021 20:15:37 GMT
How do you force a L2 player to stay and play to his potential, we're hardly Spurs with Kane, he was pretty poor for us last season when you have to hope that he was actually trying to play well. Do you really want to watch him falling over again for 46 matches. Would you rather watch Hanlan fall over and score 11 goals whilst playing with an Injury or have no one / Clarke ? I’m not saying Hanlan was great far from it but he sure as hell would have been better than what we currently have. Unhappy or not. Problem is he wasn't scoring goals when he was falling over and I never believed he was that injured given he played a full game most weeks. Although he's hardly finding the net for his new club anyway.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 17, 2021 20:19:31 GMT
Has it really got to the desperate stage where "the only option left" was a soon to be 37-year-old rejected by a National League North club? It was obviously because of financial reasons, not because he’s not good enough for them😂 Probably would have signed if he hadn't heard we are interested, I bet he couldn't believe his luck, one minute trying to earn a contract paying, what, £25K max a season in NLN, next minute probably at least tripling that at a L2 club. Ironic that we showed Barrett the door over his hamstring issues then replaced him with a player with similar issues.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 20:28:31 GMT
I wonder how many potential signings were attracted to the idea of working with a young and upcoming manager who is a relatively big name within the game, versus those who were put off by the prospect of joining a club managed by the aforementioned gentleman? Look at his signings since the elephant in the room….I can’t help but think it’s put people off.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 20:30:35 GMT
Pitman, who is also carrying an injury, not to mention a few extra pounds in weight. How many games has Clarke played in the past 2 or 3 years and how many do we expect him to play this season? "He’s going to miss a significant period of time by the looks of it, so I’m really disappointed" said Barton. "We knew we were short anyway with the window closing," the manager said. "Obviously, when you take 36-year-old free agents, it’s a risk, it’s a gamble and Brett (Pitman) is kind of in the same boat. "You do want 23, 24, 25, 26-year-olds, but they tend to cost a significant amount more than the boys on free transfers. We tried our best to get the best available. "Losing Brandon (Hanlan) was tough because it was late in the window and, as I said at the time, it was always going to be a risk because of the scarcity of that type of player in the marketplace." Amazed we couldn't find (or afford?) a decent number 9 in the marketplace during the last window and the "best available" was a soon to be 37-year-old free agent. Don’t disagree with you Pirate and I agree that both Clarke and Pittman are risk signings…. Both have pedigree and in LG 2 ‘should’ get goals but as has been proved with Clarke, at their age they are more susceptible to injuries and fitness issues… that said, whilst Pittman is still carrying a bit in my opinion, he does look to be getting fitter and seemed more mobile in the last match… Re signing an established no 9 in the window , you’ll know better than me but I don’t think that there were that many who were available? And by established I mean currently in the EFL / National League (not north or south or lower) and we’re consistent goal scorers? Certainly none spring to mind in the 23-28 age range? Like I said, I could be wrong here but you can’t buy what isn’t available and even then after that you have the whole relocation and wages and willingness to drop to league 2 (if they are from a higher division) challenges… 3 of the top 5 scorers in the league currently were summer signings.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 17, 2021 20:32:25 GMT
I wonder how many potential signings were attracted to the idea of working with a young and upcoming manager who is a relatively big name within the game, versus those who were put off by the prospect of joining a club managed by the aforementioned gentleman? Look at his signings since the elephant in the room….I can’t help but think it’s put people off. Spence, Evans and Thomas amongst others all signed under JB, possibly the latest incident with his wife put more players off signing but do they really care about that if they are getting £'s?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 20:35:09 GMT
Look at his signings since the elephant in the room….I can’t help but think it’s put people off. Spence, Evans and Thomas amongst others all signed under JB, possibly the latest incident with his wife put more players off signing but do they really care about that if they are getting £'s? Look at his signings SINCE the elephant in the room Belshaw (never turning us down) Pitman (Deal discussed as far back as April according to frost) Brown (released by Scunny) Clarke (old and couldn’t get a club) Evans (seems decent) Whelan (his mate) Do we believe 3 of the last 4 were even on the radar at the beginning of the window?
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 17, 2021 20:40:33 GMT
Spence, Evans and Thomas amongst others all signed under JB, possibly the latest incident with his wife put more players off signing but do they really care about that if they are getting £'s? Look at his signings SINCE the elephant in the room Belshaw (never turning us down) Pitman (Deal discussed as far back as April according to frost) Brown (released by Scunny) Clarke (old and couldn’t get a club) Evans (seems decent) Whelan (his mate) Do we believe 3 of the last 4 were even on the radar at the beginning of the window? Brown could be a reasonable signing, once we've sign him play. Clarke and Whelan seem a bit desperate but if he's to be believed then Archer from Villa was lined up to sign. I've no idea why we find it so hard to sign and keep a decent centre forward, or no strikers make from the Academy/Development Squad. We're in danger of being dragged into a season long relegation battle as now Sutton have started winning there's no obvious bottom two, unless Oldham have lost the plot.
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Post by 84gas on Sept 17, 2021 21:08:04 GMT
Really need Pitman and Thomas to stand up and be counted now don’t we…
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 17, 2021 23:44:41 GMT
Really need Pitman and Thomas to stand up and be counted now don’t we… I don't give it long until Pitman's injured again and we're without a recognised striker.
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Post by axegas on Sept 17, 2021 23:47:50 GMT
Really need Pitman and Thomas to stand up and be counted now don’t we… I don't give it long until Pitman's injured again and we're without a recognised striker. I've got to say I've been underwhelmed by Collins so far. Looks like a decent footballer but I'm not sure if he'll score many for us.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 18, 2021 0:14:53 GMT
I don't give it long until Pitman's injured again and we're without a recognised striker. I've got to say I've been underwhelmed by Collins so far. Looks like a decent footballer but I'm not sure if he'll score many for us. Pitman will score a few but feel he will drag us back in other ways as he doesn't offer much else other than that. In hindsight Leon Clarke looks first choice and msot effective for us all round.
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Post by orgasmic on Sept 18, 2021 4:07:53 GMT
Has it really got to the desperate stage where "the only option left" was a soon to be 37-year-old rejected by a National League North club? It was obviously because of financial reasons, not because he’s not good enough for them😂 Or they didn’t feel the financial investment was worth it with his injury record. We took a risk on an aging striker with known injury issues and that risk netted a goal before sustaining another injury. Looks like the risk hasn’t paid off.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 18, 2021 6:58:28 GMT
I've got to say I've been underwhelmed by Collins so far. Looks like a decent footballer but I'm not sure if he'll score many for us. Pitman will score a few but feel he will drag us back in other ways as he doesn't offer much else other than that. In hindsight Leon Clarke looks first choice and msot effective for us all round. Worrying then Barton suggests Clarke's injury is long term, which suggests he's out for a few months, that's a long time to play without a decent striker. Collins is an odd one, a tall striker but seems useless as a target man, unless it's simply the system he can't play in
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 7:38:57 GMT
Don’t disagree with you Pirate and I agree that both Clarke and Pittman are risk signings…. Both have pedigree and in LG 2 ‘should’ get goals but as has been proved with Clarke, at their age they are more susceptible to injuries and fitness issues… that said, whilst Pittman is still carrying a bit in my opinion, he does look to be getting fitter and seemed more mobile in the last match… Re signing an established no 9 in the window , you’ll know better than me but I don’t think that there were that many who were available? And by established I mean currently in the EFL / National League (not north or south or lower) and we’re consistent goal scorers? Certainly none spring to mind in the 23-28 age range? Like I said, I could be wrong here but you can’t buy what isn’t available and even then after that you have the whole relocation and wages and willingness to drop to league 2 (if they are from a higher division) challenges… 3 of the top 5 scorers in the league currently were summer signings. Yes mate but if you look at their histories none smack of consistent established number 9s and regular / prolific goal scorers and I seem to recall we were linked to Harry Smith previously (couple of seasons ago) and there was uproar as his wiki stats showed a low goal return….
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