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Post by justin blue on Sept 19, 2021 9:32:08 GMT
Please lets not do what we always do after a result like Saturdays and panic.
I’m as unconvinced as anyone on here that Joey is the man to take this club forward and I haven’t seen much to change my opinion, but he is the man in the managers seat now and despite my doubts I think we should stick with him a bit longer.
True yesterday was a horror show though not helped by an awful ref on the back of a poor start to the season, but most on here expected a defeat from an in form Orient side.
Third from bottom on GD does not look good ATM.
However clutching wildly at straws a couple of results could start to turn things around
I doubt there are many managerial decent prospects out there at the moment anyway. Or at least none that we haven’t already used and/or abused.
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Post by teanbiscuits on Sept 19, 2021 9:34:04 GMT
I'm of the belief now that our issues are deeper than any that a manager could influence.
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Post by kampucheagas on Sept 19, 2021 9:40:37 GMT
I'm of the belief now that our issues are deeper than any that a manager could influence. Really? I always thought football was a pretty simple game You decide upon players to play your system, you coach and nurture them and get them ready to perform to your instructors on a Saturday JB doesn’t seem to have a clue who to play, where to play them, and he can’t figure out how to adapt when he needs to change things? He’s been given unbelievable support from above, so what are these issues you talk about? |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Sept 19, 2021 9:41:16 GMT
I'm of the belief now that our issues are deeper than any that a manager could influence. Two years of awful results,several failed managers,relegation,current league position and dreadful stadium would certainly endorse your viewpoint T N B. |
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Post by justin blue on Sept 19, 2021 9:47:46 GMT
I'm of the belief now that our issues are deeper than any that a manager could influence. I’m thinking the same. All of the managers we have had recently have had, or have gone on to have success so it does make you wonder. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 19, 2021 9:51:43 GMT
I'm of the belief now that our issues are deeper than any that a manager could influence. I’m thinking the same. All of the managers we have had recently have had, or have gone on to have success so it does make you wonder. DC was hardly a success at Walsall, GC a flop at Mansfield and BG hasn't won a league game in 6 games? Paul Tisdale seems to have gone into semi retirement? How have any of those been a success elsewhere, apart from DC seems to be doing OK now at PV? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 9:52:26 GMT
I’m thinking the same. All of the managers we have had recently have had, or have gone on to have success so it does make you wonder. DC was hardly a success at Walsall, GC a flop at Mansfield and BG hasn't won a league game in 6 games? Paul Tisdale seems to have gone into semi retirement? How are any of those been a success elsewhere, apart from DC seems to be doing OK now at PV? Thought Darrell done a decent Job at Walsall considering he had no funds. Left them 6 points off the play offs. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 19, 2021 9:54:05 GMT
BG hasn't won a league game in 6 games? Swindon league games this season WLDWWDLD |
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Post by oldie on Sept 19, 2021 9:54:29 GMT
I'm of the belief now that our issues are deeper than any that a manager could influence. I’m thinking the same. All of the managers we have had recently have had, or have gone on to have success so it does make you wonder. The management of DC was the key pointer. They clearly saw GC as a stop gap, he knew it and left. Garner was the big play, but Widdrington and he were not a fit. A mess of recruitment resulted. Tisdale was a mistake, Barton an unmitigated disaster. The CEO has a lot to answer for |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 9:55:02 GMT
I’m thinking the same. All of the managers we have had recently have had, or have gone on to have success so it does make you wonder. DC was hardly a success at Walsall, GC a flop at Mansfield and BG hasn't won a league game in 6 games? Paul Tisdale seems to have gone into semi retirement? How have any of those been a success elsewhere, apart from DC seems to be doing OK now at PV? Garner also last won 4 league games ago. His last 6 league results are DWWDLD |
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Post by justin blue on Sept 19, 2021 10:06:47 GMT
I’m thinking the same. All of the managers we have had recently have had, or have gone on to have success so it does make you wonder. DC was hardly a success at Walsall, GC a flop at Mansfield and BG hasn't won a league game in 6 games? Paul Tisdale seems to have gone into semi retirement? How have any of those been a success elsewhere, apart from DC seems to be doing OK now at PV? You say DC was hardly a success at Walsall, but they are hardly tearing up the division now are they. Swindon are tenth which from where we are looks a lot like success. Tisdale had a decent record at Exeter and got MK promoted. GC leaving of his own accord was not a club decision. |
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 19, 2021 10:09:29 GMT
We don't need a good result (although it would help) but we need ma good performance to show that the ability is there to put a good run together. Referee was dreadful yesterday but can't take the blame for such an inept performance.
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Post by oldie on Sept 19, 2021 10:20:46 GMT
DC was hardly a success at Walsall, GC a flop at Mansfield and BG hasn't won a league game in 6 games? Paul Tisdale seems to have gone into semi retirement? How have any of those been a success elsewhere, apart from DC seems to be doing OK now at PV? Garner also last won 4 league games ago. His last 6 league results are DWWDLD One loss in six games, Christ I would take that. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 19, 2021 10:27:35 GMT
DC was hardly a success at Walsall, GC a flop at Mansfield and BG hasn't won a league game in 6 games? Paul Tisdale seems to have gone into semi retirement? How have any of those been a success elsewhere, apart from DC seems to be doing OK now at PV? You say DC was hardly a success at Walsall, but they are hardly tearing up the division now are they. Swindon are tenth which from where we are looks a lot like success. Tisdale had a decent record at Exeter and got MK promoted. GC leaving of his own accord was not a club decision. You can hardly say Tisdale was a success after he left based on his time at his previous clubs? JB is the most successful manager recently in terms of league positions as he got Fleetwood into the top 6, none of the others have achieved that during the last 3 seasons. Regardless it's a complete mystery why all these managers keep failing when they are not totally useless at previous/future clubs. It's easy to point the finger at Starnes but I'd imagine BG and JB were both Wael's appointments not Starnes, who seemed to be behind Tisdale's appointment. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 19, 2021 10:31:42 GMT
We don't need a good result (although it would help) but we need ma good performance to show that the ability is there to put a good run together. Referee was dreadful yesterday but can't take the blame for such an inept performance. Walsall and Swindon are hardly setting L2 alight, for JB to stay in his job I feel we need a minimum of 2 pts from those two games but hopefully it's at least 3 pts, if we fail to beat Walsall and then lose to Garner's Swindon I can see Wael decideing that he's had enough of JB. Although whoever comes in will still have to deal with having just Pitman as an experienced striker. Surely we can find an out of contract CF?? |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 19, 2021 10:32:46 GMT
You say DC was hardly a success at Walsall, but they are hardly tearing up the division now are they. Swindon are tenth which from where we are looks a lot like success. Tisdale had a decent record at Exeter and got MK promoted. GC leaving of his own accord was not a club decision. You can hardly say Tisdale was a success after he left based on his time at his previous clubs? JB is the most successful manager recently in terms of league positions as he got Fleetwood into the top 6, none of the others have achieved that during the last 3 seasons. Regardless it's a complete mystery why all these managers keep failing when they are not totally useless at previous/future clubs. It's easy to point the finger at Starnes but I'd imagine BG and JB were both Wael's appointments not Starnes, who seemed to be behind Tisdale's appointment. Istm the only similarly well-backed failing club is Mansfield. As GC succeeded here, and failed at Mansfield and even Nigel Clough hasn't got it right there, yet, they might even be worse than us in this regard. Mansfield fans are probably as nonplussed as we are. |
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Post by warwickgas on Sept 19, 2021 10:41:03 GMT
Can someone explain what happened at the Blackthorn end just prior to their first goal. It looked like our man was being awarded a penalty but the ref instead gave them a free kick. The crowd were outraged but from the South Tent it was difficult to see what happened. The highlights don’t show it
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Post by chilly1883 on Sept 19, 2021 10:44:45 GMT
I’ve been happy to give Barton time, but yesterday did it for me. We have absolutely no pattern of play, it’s like watching 10 individuals run around aimlessly. Round pegs in square holes, grant playing wing back? Come on, I’ve never seen him go around anyone, he plays sideways and backwards. Now I’m no expert, but surely, if you play wingback, you have to be able to take people on?. Anderton, where do I start! Wow, Every time he passed the ball, it was either short, or out of play. I’ve seen nothing in him at all, maybe a strong challenge every now and then. Up front completely powder puff, constantly bullied or dictated. Saunders runs his balls off, but that’s it. Anyway I’m not watching again, until this team starts performing, or Barton goes. Not wasting my money on that sh**e anymore.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Sept 19, 2021 11:25:09 GMT
Can someone explain what happened at the Blackthorn end just prior to their first goal. It looked like our man was being awarded a penalty but the ref instead gave them a free kick. The crowd were outraged but from the South Tent it was difficult to see what happened. The highlights don’t show it Wasn't in the box. Was a clear free kick to us but bizarrely the ref gave it to them and the linesman who was much closer didn't give anything. From there they got a corner and scored. |
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Post by axegas on Sept 19, 2021 11:27:51 GMT
I'm of the belief now that our issues are deeper than any that a manager could influence. We have a big budget for this league. We have a new training facility for the players to train at. We have a great, vocal fanbase. There’s more than enough there for a manager to work with and influence our fortunes. |
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