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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 6, 2021 17:24:43 GMT
Surely another embarrassing home performance on Saturday would be enough to test even the most patient of supporter ? I would also like to know if anyone has seen any type of improvement amongst the team as in my opinion , They look as though they’ve never played together and all not knowing their roles within the group , they are slow , played out of position with no one creating chances in the centre of midfield and zero attacking threat up front , I mean Pitman is about as mobile as a patio slab, not to mention a defence who always have one or two mistakes in them and who can also not defend set pieces. That is an insult to a patio slab.
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Post by oldie on Oct 6, 2021 17:58:49 GMT
Agree the football is terrible its sh**e oldie, but another manager this season, ain’t the answer. So, What is the answer in your opinion? For me recruiting a bloke like Barton was a huge mistake, both in terms of public perception football ability. This has come to pass. So what do we do, not act? Carry on with this utter farce in blind faith that things will correct themselves? It's utter madness.
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 6, 2021 18:04:57 GMT
its sh**e oldie, but another manager this season, ain’t the answer. So, What is the answer in your opinion? For me recruiting a bloke like Barton was a huge mistake, both in terms of public perception football ability. This has come to pass. So what do we do, not act? Carry on with this utter farce in blind faith that things will correct themselves? It's utter madness. i don’t trust our board to make another appointment! Full stop. In my 41 years of support, I’m pretty sure I’ve never known a manager, to come in and stop relegation. You may remember differently??
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Post by cj on Oct 6, 2021 18:28:33 GMT
So, What is the answer in your opinion? For me recruiting a bloke like Barton was a huge mistake, both in terms of public perception football ability. This has come to pass. So what do we do, not act? Carry on with this utter farce in blind faith that things will correct themselves? It's utter madness. i don’t trust our board to make another appointment! Full stop. In my 41 years of support, I’m pretty sure I’ve never known a manager, to come in and stop relegation. You may remember differently?? That's why we need to act now to give the new man as much time as possible because leaving it late makes it so much more harder to escape. Doing nothing means we will get relegated for sure. Best to at least try to do something than nothing.
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Post by oldie on Oct 6, 2021 18:32:09 GMT
So, What is the answer in your opinion? For me recruiting a bloke like Barton was a huge mistake, both in terms of public perception football ability. This has come to pass. So what do we do, not act? Carry on with this utter farce in blind faith that things will correct themselves? It's utter madness. i don’t trust our board to make another appointment! Full stop. In my 41 years of support, I’m pretty sure I’ve never known a manager, to come in and stop relegation. You may remember differently?? But that's not an answer. The guy is professionally incompetent and a violent narccisst. You want to carry on?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 6, 2021 18:36:27 GMT
Same old clap trap being posted by the same people that being repeated over and over on many posts
People nothing you do or say is going to change the situation, one one person can do that and that's owner owner and he has already stated he has his full backing
So why bother with another pointless tread about a subject that is overblown
Yes he could be sacked over his court case's but i fear he will be here until the end of the season
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Post by oldie on Oct 6, 2021 18:46:53 GMT
Same old clap trap being posted by the same people that being repeated over and over on many posts People nothing you do or say is going to change the situation, one one person can do that and that's owner owner and he has already stated he has his full backing So why bother with another pointless tread about a subject that is overblown Yes he could be sacked over his court case's but i fear he will be here until the end of the season Of course. But kicking a football around is pointless. So this may well be a pointless discussion over a pointless past time. Ultimately, everything is pointless unless you are a deluded believer in a god.
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Post by cj on Oct 6, 2021 18:48:48 GMT
Same old clap trap being posted by the same people that being repeated over and over on many posts People nothing you do or say is going to change the situation, one one person can do that and that's owner owner and he has already stated he has his full backing So why bother with another pointless tread about a subject that is overblown Yes he could be sacked over his court case's but i fear he will be here until the end of the season If you think this is a pointless thread, why bother opening it, read the comments and even post on it?
Also why can't we share the opinion that he needs to go but at the same time you can share the opinion that he will end up staying for the remainder of the season?
Next time we feel a player should get dropped, like Coutts for example, should we not bother expressing this opinion when clearly one person only will make the decision to play or drop him so what's the point?
It's a forum, expect to see things like this.
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 6, 2021 18:54:44 GMT
i don’t trust our board to make another appointment! Full stop. In my 41 years of support, I’m pretty sure I’ve never known a manager, to come in and stop relegation. You may remember differently?? That's why we need to act now to give the new man as much time as possible because leaving it late makes it so much more harder to escape. Doing nothing means we will get relegated for sure. Best to at least try to do something than nothing. i think there’s more chance of relegation, if our board appointed another manager
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Post by cj on Oct 6, 2021 19:02:46 GMT
That's why we need to act now to give the new man as much time as possible because leaving it late makes it so much more harder to escape. Doing nothing means we will get relegated for sure. Best to at least try to do something than nothing. i think there’s more chance of relegation, if our board appointed another manager I respect that but it is a strange statement to make without knowing who that manager is because they could come in and play the right formation and tactics that best suit the players we have and could get the best out of them, whereas JB seems incapable of doing that. You are basically righting off a new manager already. JB signed these players, he has shown nothing so far that suggests he can get the best out of them. We ain't scoring enough and conceding too many and JB seems too stubborn to actually try something different, so therefore if nothing is changing, we will carry on being in deep deep trouble.
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Post by RD on Oct 6, 2021 19:05:16 GMT
Same old clap trap being posted by the same people that being repeated over and over on many posts People nothing you do or say is going to change the situation, one one person can do that and that's owner owner and he has already stated he has his full backing So why bother with another pointless tread about a subject that is overblown Yes he could be sacked over his court case's but i fear he will be here until the end of the season Why bother posting then Henbury? It's a forum ffs. Doesn't stop you posting your BS about your mate on the planning commission.
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 6, 2021 19:11:44 GMT
i think there’s more chance of relegation, if our board appointed another manager I respect that but it is a strange statement to make without knowing who that manager is because they could come in and play the right formation and tactics that best suit the players we have and could get the best out of them, whereas JB seems incapable of doing that. You are basically righting off a new manager already. JB signed these players, he has shown nothing so far that suggests he can get the best out of them. We ain't scoring enough and conceding too many and JB seems too stubborn to actually try something different, so therefore if nothing is changing, we will carry on being in deep deep trouble. how many more times, do I have to state, I don’t trust our board to make the right appointment. They’ve not exactly got a great record!
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 6, 2021 19:19:00 GMT
Same old clap trap being posted by the same people that being repeated over and over on many posts People nothing you do or say is going to change the situation, one one person can do that and that's owner owner and he has already stated he has his full backing So why bother with another pointless tread about a subject that is overblown Yes he could be sacked over his court case's but i fear he will be here until the end of the season Same old clap trap being posted by the same people thats being repeated over and over on many posts, telling other posters not to speak their minds. People nothing you do or say is going to change the situation, only one person can do that and that's the posters themselves and they have already stated they will say what they want, thank you very much. So why bother with another pointless post telling people not to post what they want during a huge decline, on a forum designed for exactly that. Yes he could be sacked over his court case's but i fear he will be here until the end of the season
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Post by cj on Oct 6, 2021 19:20:14 GMT
I respect that but it is a strange statement to make without knowing who that manager is because they could come in and play the right formation and tactics that best suit the players we have and could get the best out of them, whereas JB seems incapable of doing that. You are basically righting off a new manager already. JB signed these players, he has shown nothing so far that suggests he can get the best out of them. We ain't scoring enough and conceding too many and JB seems too stubborn to actually try something different, so therefore if nothing is changing, we will carry on being in deep deep trouble. how many more times, do I have to state, I don’t trust our board to make the right appointment. They’ve not exactly got a great record! How many more times do I have to state, do nothing and we will go down. JB hasn't exactly got a great record.
You may be happy with going down again but I ain't. Dong nothing is negligent. Yeah the next manager may end up being crap too but at least something was tried to avoid what is coming to us.
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 6, 2021 19:26:54 GMT
I may be happy to go down again?? What a ridiculous thing to say🤣
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Post by Nortongashead on Oct 6, 2021 19:40:23 GMT
The fact that Barton hasn't been sacked yet is just another key indicator of how poorly the club are ran on the leadership front. The club are reaping what they have sown since Coughlan saw the danger signs and bailed. Abysmal leadership decisions have got us to this point from the President down to the manager. Barton called Garner negligent, but its on his watch that we did not recruit adequately AGAIN!! The question i keep asking myself is could our current side beat the relegated side of 2014? Not a chance atm. Wael is fully invested in Barton and seems almost taken in by him. Barton deserves to be sacked for his record alone, let alone his ridiculous statements that get twisted into a narcissistic philosophy when they get proved to be untrue or lose accuracy. Its a big mess and lets be honest with ourselves as supporters who the hell would want to succeed if Barton was sacked? How can we trust the leadership team to recruit another manager? TBF they all deserve to be sacked, they are completely failing our football club.
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Post by cj on Oct 6, 2021 19:40:51 GMT
I may be happy to go down again?? What a ridiculous thing to say🤣 Well if you want the board to do nothing because you don't trust them, you are therefore, in my opinion, choosing relegation. Why choose that? Because that is in effect what you are doing. Hence my comment.
Like you, I don't trust them either to make the right choice but I rather we try something to avoid relegation because doing nothing is not an option.
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Post by axegas on Oct 6, 2021 19:50:24 GMT
So, What is the answer in your opinion? For me recruiting a bloke like Barton was a huge mistake, both in terms of public perception football ability. This has come to pass. So what do we do, not act? Carry on with this utter farce in blind faith that things will correct themselves? It's utter madness. i don’t trust our board to make another appointment! Full stop. In my 41 years of support, I’m pretty sure I’ve never known a manager, to come in and stop relegation. You may remember differently?? Graham Coughlan literally did it a few years ago from when we were in the relegation zone under DC.
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Post by cj on Oct 6, 2021 19:51:52 GMT
i don’t trust our board to make another appointment! Full stop. In my 41 years of support, I’m pretty sure I’ve never known a manager, to come in and stop relegation. You may remember differently?? Graham Coughlan literally did it a few years ago from when we were in the relegation zone under DC. Didn't John Ward do it too?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 6, 2021 19:53:07 GMT
i don’t trust our board to make another appointment! Full stop. In my 41 years of support, I’m pretty sure I’ve never known a manager, to come in and stop relegation. You may remember differently?? Graham Coughlan literally did it a few years ago from when we were in the relegation zone under DC. Didn't McGhee come in and stop Buckle's (arguable) relegation, and then Ward came in and stopped McGhee's.
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