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Post by Dirt Dogg on Oct 6, 2021 19:54:07 GMT
Graham Coughlan literally did it a few years ago from when we were in the relegation zone under DC. Didn't John Ward do it too? McGhee after Buckle as well.
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Post by bridgwatergas on Oct 6, 2021 20:29:29 GMT
I may be happy to go down again?? What a ridiculous thing to say🤣 Well if you want the board to do nothing because you don't trust them, you are therefore, in my opinion, choosing relegation. Why choose that? Because that is in effect what you are doing. Hence my comment.
Like you, I don't trust them either to make the right choice but I rather we try something to avoid relegation because doing nothing is not an option.
So basically your saying let's follow the path we did last season. Well we all know what happened there.
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Post by cj on Oct 6, 2021 20:35:16 GMT
Well if you want the board to do nothing because you don't trust them, you are therefore, in my opinion, choosing relegation. Why choose that? Because that is in effect what you are doing. Hence my comment.
Like you, I don't trust them either to make the right choice but I rather we try something to avoid relegation because doing nothing is not an option.
So basically your saying let's follow the path we did last season. Well we all know what happened there. Yes because sticking with JB isn't working. So it went wrong last season. Doesn't mean it will go wrong this season.
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Post by gasify on Oct 6, 2021 20:36:16 GMT
no mate! Just your thread 👍🏽 Thread poll. What colour pants is Barton wearing? Does he like a fry up? What car does he drive. It's all boring. No one knows as they are always on fire.
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Post by miltongas on Oct 6, 2021 21:17:56 GMT
He has to go. We’re awful. We were awful when he took over and there was no sign of improvement. Many accepted the caveat that they weren’t his players and things ’would’ be different after a summer transfer window. But the reality for me is that they aren’t any better at all. The football is dreadful. The games are dull at best and terrible at worst. We’ve had some wins but they’ve generally been against even worse teams (Oldham and Walsall) or we were fortunate against a wasteful Crawley. This is one of the worst sides I’ve seen in years and there a no signs at all it will get better. So, for me, Barton has to go.
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Post by aghast on Oct 6, 2021 21:21:22 GMT
Same old clap trap being posted by the same people that being repeated over and over on many posts People nothing you do or say is going to change the situation, one one person can do that and that's owner owner and he has already stated he has his full backing So why bother with another pointless tread about a subject that is overblown Yes he could be sacked over his court case's but i fear he will be here until the end of the season Same old clap trap being posted by the same people thats being repeated over and over on many posts, telling other posters not to speak their minds. People nothing you do or say is going to change the situation, only one person can do that and that's the posters themselves and they have already stated they will say what they want, thank you very much. So why bother with another pointless post telling people not to post what they want during a huge decline, on a forum designed for exactly that. Yes he could be sacked over his court case's but i fear he will be here until the end of the season Always found it ironic how a few regular posters on here sometimes say we should just stop posting on a subject they don't like because it's boring/pointless/damaging/out of our control. If it's a subject that tickles their fancy, however, they'll be posting like it's going out of fashion.
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Post by titchthephot on Oct 6, 2021 21:33:55 GMT
Same old clap trap being posted by the same people that being repeated over and over on many posts People nothing you do or say is going to change the situation, one one person can do that and that's owner owner and he has already stated he has his full backing So why bother with another pointless tread about a subject that is overblown Yes he could be sacked over his court case's but i fear he will be here until the end of the season So you are saying that we should all keep very quiet, accept the situation and not moan at all. Fans have no power? An owner will never listen to what the fans want, they don't matter at all. Their voice is insignificant. Never in the history of football have fans ever made a difference to how a club is manager? We have had some pretty awful managers in the past but I have never heard of so many fans staying away from the Mem until Barton has gone (me for one!). You suggest , inadvertently, that Wael doesn't care is our gates drop dramatically - we are not important enough to be heard? Hmmm, we'll see.
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 7, 2021 6:25:41 GMT
I may be happy to go down again?? What a ridiculous thing to say🤣 Well if you want the board to do nothing because you don't trust them, you are therefore, in my opinion, choosing relegation. Why choose that? Because that is in effect what you are doing. Hence my comment.
Like you, I don't trust them either to make the right choice but I rather we try something to avoid relegation because doing nothing is not an option.
im not choosing relegation! But they’ve had 3 efforts at choosing the correct man. And they don’t get it right!!
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 7, 2021 6:27:07 GMT
Didn't John Ward do it too? McGhee after Buckle as well. they all ended well ??
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 7, 2021 7:56:37 GMT
McGhee after Buckle as well. they all ended well ?? Surely you can't genuinely think that we shouldn't change a poor manager in case we get another poor one is a reasonable argument. If that were true every team would stick with their worst manager, forever.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Oct 7, 2021 7:59:44 GMT
no mate! Just your thread 👍🏽 Thread poll. What colour pants is Barton wearing? Does he like a fry up? What car does he drive. It's all boring. Float on by then, easy enough to ignore eh. Calm down, calm down. You need to go that that London 😂l😂🤣
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 7, 2021 8:42:02 GMT
Surely you can't genuinely think that we shouldn't change a poor manager in case we get another poor one is a reasonable argument. If that were true every team would stick with their worst manager, forever. Do you really think we will get a decent manager? Changing constantly does not work
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Post by Gasshole on Oct 7, 2021 8:52:34 GMT
Should I stay or should I go now If I go there will be trouble If I stay it will be double So you gotta let me know Should I stay or should I go
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 7, 2021 8:53:07 GMT
Surely you can't genuinely think that we shouldn't change a poor manager in case we get another poor one is a reasonable argument. If that were true every team would stick with their worst manager, forever. Do you really think we will get a decent manager? Changing constantly does not work Changing constantly doesn't work, but changing until you get a decent manager works better than sticking with a failing manager. Sticking with the worst manager in your history is genuinely bizarre. Using the excuse of 'changing managers doesn't work' to stick with the worst manager in your history is unreasonable. I agree we're sh** at picking managers, but the board have to back themselves. They must act through a consistent (as best they can) rationale, one that implicitly understands that they are good for the club (otherwise they'd sell up, right?). They won't be sat there saying to themselves, we're so sh** at picking managers we may as well stick with this one even though he's the worst one in our entre history. Presumably, they will be sat there thinking, how best do we move the club forward and ensure the future health of the club. And unless they've been brainwashed by a bullshitting narcissist (hint: they have) they should come to the conclusion that they need a change of manager.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2021 8:55:39 GMT
We are in a pickle if he stays, And a pickle if he goes. He could fiddle with formation, Or,continue to belittle. But the results still stay the same.
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Post by albaron on Oct 7, 2021 8:58:40 GMT
Most saying Barton should go -- But no one coming up with a suitable replacement. If thats the case then surely he stays. Whats the point in getting rid if there is no suitable replacement ? I can only think of one at present ( Flynn ) and there is no guarantee he would do any better. I also think he is looking to go to a higher club than us. So if thats the case we are stuck with him and so should support him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2021 9:02:11 GMT
Something better change, Just hanging around, Go Buddy Go, I am afraid the Gas don’t need, No more heroes.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 7, 2021 9:08:47 GMT
Most saying Barton should go -- But no one coming up with a suitable replacement. If thats the case then surely he stays. Whats the point in getting rid if there is no suitable replacement ? I can only think of one at present ( Flynn ) and there is no guarantee he would do any better. I also think he is looking to go to a higher club than us. So if thats the case we are stuck with him and so should support him. This doesn't make any sense. You've just said no one is coming up with a replacement, but you've just come up with one (who has been mentioned any number of times), so that's plainly not true. And you said there's no guarantee he will be better. No manager has ever been appointed with a guarantee, obviously, coz their matches take place in the future. The idea that Flynn is the only option and if he won't come here we have to stick with Barton is also plainly untrue. What a terrible justification to stick with a failing manager. But, to be fair, better than Wael's, who just spewed a bit of self-serving rhetoric from JB's autobiography.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Oct 7, 2021 9:37:06 GMT
I want all Rovers managers to succeed including JB but barring a miraculous turn round in our fortunes and performances his position will become untenable very soon. What i do not understand is why he does not change anything and keeps playing the same way when it patently aint working. JB you have to change something, personnel and tactics for your own good and if there aren't radical changes for Sat then i really will despair for you and Rovers. As for any future manager, i do not see why Flynn would not come, he did a good job at Newport without anything tangible to show for it and i do not think his CV would put him in line for any 'big' job. There is no Guarantee of success that come with an appointment, sometime things just fit and work , sometimes they don't ,despite all the data saying otherwise. Ipswich must have been delighted to get Cook but so far it has not worked out, Forest fans would have thought Hughton was a good fit but not to be ,he goes ,new man takes over and they have lift off, so good luck JB but if it's not to be good luck Wael in finding the right man for us, if you want any help just join Gaschat ,we have all the answers!
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Post by albaron on Oct 7, 2021 10:05:32 GMT
Most saying Barton should go -- But no one coming up with a suitable replacement. If thats the case then surely he stays. Whats the point in getting rid if there is no suitable replacement ? I can only think of one at present ( Flynn ) and there is no guarantee he would do any better. I also think he is looking to go to a higher club than us. So if thats the case we are stuck with him and so should support him. This doesn't make any sense. You've just said no one is coming up with a replacement, but you've just come up with one (who has been mentioned any number of times), so that's plainly not true. And you said there's no guarantee he will be better. No manager has ever been appointed with a guarantee, obviously, coz their matches take place in the future. The idea that Flynn is the only option and if he won't come here we have to stick with Barton is also plainly untrue. What a terrible justification to stick with a failing manager. But, to be fair, better than Wael's, who just spewed a bit of self-serving rhetoric from JB's autobiography. So what is your solution then ? Who is your choice ? And one that is credible .
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