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Post by peterparker on Nov 26, 2021 9:05:40 GMT
People still think Barton is wrong to call out Thomas? These lots of egg flying around on this forum, I’m keeping my head down before it gets on my face would probably be better if the stuff about Thomas wasn't coming out of the mouth of a massive hypocrite. No player is beyond criticism, but there is a line and I think JB crossed it and not for the first time. He savaged Thomas. His treatment of Ehmer was just as bad. Lets not forget his 'negligent' comments about Garner/Tisdale Barton has a big gob, and it is bigger than the brain he thinks he has
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Post by richie on Nov 26, 2021 9:07:10 GMT
People still think Barton is wrong to call out Thomas? These lots of egg flying around on this forum, I’m keeping my head down before it gets on my face would probably be better if the stuff about Thomas wasn't coming out of the mouth of a massive hypocrite. No player is beyond criticism, but there is a line and I think JB crossed it and not for the first time. He savaged Thomas. His treatment of Ehmer was just as bad. Lets not forget his 'negligent' comments about Garner/Tisdale Barton has a big gob, and it is bigger than the brain he thinks he has Unfortunately he’s been right each time
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 26, 2021 9:28:57 GMT
TBH I didn’t think LT’s miss was that bad. Great run, brilliant through ball and he put it low and hard to the Keepers left. Look like it almost shaved the post. I’ve seen guys on 300 k a week do that and far worse. Is it a case of the significance of the miss outweighing the reality of it. If BP”s goal stands, then nobody”s getting a public savaging. Anyway we March on Nailsworth.
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Post by Jomo on Nov 26, 2021 9:36:53 GMT
would probably be better if the stuff about Thomas wasn't coming out of the mouth of a massive hypocrite. No player is beyond criticism, but there is a line and I think JB crossed it and not for the first time. He savaged Thomas. His treatment of Ehmer was just as bad. Lets not forget his 'negligent' comments about Garner/Tisdale Barton has a big gob, and it is bigger than the brain he thinks he has Unfortunately he’s been right each time That's only your opinion. It has nothing to do with being right or wrong. In my opinion it doesn't matter whether any of these public outbursts and slanderings have any truth in them or not, it is simply not a good way to conduct yourself as a professional. This is coming from someone who is pro-Barton staying in the job, as the team are playing well and I don't want another upheaval.
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Post by richie on Nov 26, 2021 9:43:53 GMT
thats a matter of opinion, for example I dont think Trump conducts himself very well but its pretty effective
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Post by Jomo on Nov 26, 2021 9:47:22 GMT
thats a matter of opinion, for example I dont think Trump conducts himself very well but its pretty effective Perhaps, but Trump's conduct is aimed to rouse a certain contingent of the US population that are would-be voters. Whereas, what does Barton hope to achieve with these public outings? Did his comments about Ehmer, Hanlan, Ayunga, Garner and Tisdale actually do anything to help our cause? Therefore, can you consider this conduct to have been effective?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 26, 2021 9:50:48 GMT
thats a matter of opinion, for example I dont think Trump conducts himself very well but its pretty effective Perhaps, but Trump's conduct is aimed to rouse a certain contingent of the US population that are would-be voters. Whereas, what does Barton hope to achieve with these public outings? Did his comments about Ehmer, Hanlan, Ayunga, Garner and Tisdale actually do anything to help our cause? Therefore, can you consider this conduct to have been effective? That's a fair comment. 👍
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Post by richie on Nov 26, 2021 10:24:13 GMT
Perhaps, but Trump's conduct is aimed to rouse a certain contingent of the US population that are would-be voters. Whereas, what does Barton hope to achieve with these public outings? Did his comments about Ehmer, Hanlan, Ayunga, Garner and Tisdale actually do anything to help our cause? Therefore, can you consider this conduct to have been effective? That's a fair comment. 👍 in the same breath was it ineffective? already terrible players/managers, something needed to be done and I think that sometimes it needs to be said. Just look back at the threads on here all those people had much worse said about them, but when Joey actually says it for some reason because its not in private its instantly wrong? Managers speak out all the time, sometimes its right sometimes its not but I think actually having an opinion counts
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Post by richie on Nov 26, 2021 10:26:59 GMT
Can you imagine what LT would be getting upto if we had Garner in charge?
I expect he would let him miss training to "talk about his feelings" which we would all prefer right?
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Post by Jomo on Nov 26, 2021 10:30:02 GMT
in the same breath was it ineffective? already terrible players/managers, something needed to be done and I think that sometimes it needs to be said. Just look back at the threads on here all those people had much worse said about them, but when Joey actually says it for some reason because its not in private its instantly wrong? Managers speak out all the time, sometimes its right sometimes its not but I think actually having an opinion counts Surely you can't compare the opinions of random fans on an internet forum, to the public outings of players and former managers by the current manager of a professional football club? Do you not get that people in positions of authority and especially those that have an obligation to represent their employers and stakeholders in public, have to be more reserved with what they say?
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Post by richie on Nov 26, 2021 10:40:44 GMT
in the same breath was it ineffective? already terrible players/managers, something needed to be done and I think that sometimes it needs to be said. Just look back at the threads on here all those people had much worse said about them, but when Joey actually says it for some reason because its not in private its instantly wrong? Managers speak out all the time, sometimes its right sometimes its not but I think actually having an opinion counts Surely you can't compare the opinions of random fans on an internet forum, to the public outings of players and former managers by the current manager of a professional football club? Do you not get that people in positions of authority and especially those that have an obligation to represent their employers and stakeholders in public, have to be more reserved with what they say? sorry, the point is that hes not wrong with the content is he? its just the manner you don't like. I think you need to consider what power if any the stakeholders have? its only Wael he needs to satisfy, he doesnt have to be reserved at all. if he wants to call out players it might make some think twice before joining us but then would we really want those type of players?
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Post by Jomo on Nov 26, 2021 10:46:14 GMT
Surely you can't compare the opinions of random fans on an internet forum, to the public outings of players and former managers by the current manager of a professional football club? Do you not get that people in positions of authority and especially those that have an obligation to represent their employers and stakeholders in public, have to be more reserved with what they say? sorry, the point is that hes not wrong with the content is he? its just the manner you don't like. I think you need to consider what power if any the stakeholders have? its only Wael he needs to satisfy, he doesnt have to be reserved at all. if he wants to call out players it might make some think twice before joining us but then would we really want those type of players? You make good points on that, but it's not us fans that matter in this, as you suggest. I don't feel personally aggrieved at anything he has said, but with regards to public shaming, he runs the risk of getting himself and possibly the club into hot water with possible law suits for defamation (it was threatened I believe after his comments about Garner and Tisdale), but also risks causing disharmony in the playing squad. It also as you suggested may have a detrimental impact on our ability to sign players, for example if any of these players' agents no longer deal with us while JB is in charge. Any of these or none of these things may happen, but the point is that it's not worth the risk for the sake of putting things in the public domain that nobody actually needs to know. Nobody benefits from this stuff in my opinion. Edit: besides, my view is that it's just not a nice thing to do to publicly shame people. If I have grief with anyone at work, I'd take it up with them privately. I would not slander people in front of others as it's just not appropriate nor professional.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 26, 2021 11:16:12 GMT
I agree, it’s funny how fans go back 41 games, when it suits their point! It’s all about what is happening now and the form has been good, considering how many injuries we have. Plus we beat Oxford in the cup, that 120 minutes probably cost us a few league points. As a lot of our player’s are getting on, they probably felt it during the 2nd half of the last two games😂. Most of us thought Barton was close to the sack, not long ago. But he has seemed to have turned it around. Dropped two points against 9 man Salford, dropped another two points at home against Tranmere after being 2-0 up, not long ago lost 3-1 at home to Newport and only 2 wins in our last 7 league games. We're flying! With no strikers. Plus we tied in both games, due to injuries and player’s playing 120 minutes the Tuesday before. How many of those 7 did we lose?? If it wasn’t for the officials disallowing a good goal at the end, we would be 4 points off 5th place. Things are improving, so he deserves a few more games at least, to see if things continue to improve.
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Post by pirate on Nov 26, 2021 11:27:58 GMT
Dropped two points against 9 man Salford, dropped another two points at home against Tranmere after being 2-0 up, not long ago lost 3-1 at home to Newport and only 2 wins in our last 7 league games. We're flying! With no strikers. Plus we tied in both games, due to injuries and player’s playing 120 minutes the Tuesday before. How many of those 7 did we lose?? If it wasn’t for the officials disallowing a good goal at the end, we would be 4 points off 5th place. Things are improving, so he deserves a few more games at least, to see if things continue to improve. Who decided to sign a striker approaching their 37th birthday that had two hamstring injuries last season and a back operation?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 26, 2021 18:40:51 GMT
With no strikers. Plus we tied in both games, due to injuries and player’s playing 120 minutes the Tuesday before. How many of those 7 did we lose?? If it wasn’t for the officials disallowing a good goal at the end, we would be 4 points off 5th place. Things are improving, so he deserves a few more games at least, to see if things continue to improve. Who decided to sign a striker approaching their 37th birthday that had two hamstring injuries last season and a back operation? The one you thought was the best candidate for the job?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 26, 2021 18:42:44 GMT
With no strikers. Plus we tied in both games, due to injuries and player’s playing 120 minutes the Tuesday before. How many of those 7 did we lose?? If it wasn’t for the officials disallowing a good goal at the end, we would be 4 points off 5th place. Things are improving, so he deserves a few more games at least, to see if things continue to improve. Who decided to sign a striker approaching their 37th birthday that had two hamstring injuries last season and a back operation? Agreed.. it always a risk when signed ageing players, but we signed Ayunga and Daly before last season and they were both out injured too. Some can be quality just look at Wally Walters.
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Post by bluebiro on Nov 26, 2021 18:48:09 GMT
Who decided to sign a striker approaching their 37th birthday that had two hamstring injuries last season and a back operation? The one you thought was the best candidate for the job? time for a list of 2000000 footballers no one has or will ever hear off again.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 26, 2021 20:56:38 GMT
Salford's first red card the other night has just been rescinded.
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Post by pirate on Nov 26, 2021 21:42:02 GMT
Who decided to sign a striker approaching their 37th birthday that had two hamstring injuries last season and a back operation? The one you thought was the best candidate for the job? Hard to find many decent candidates when you are looking for a 3rd manager in a season.
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Post by pirate on Nov 26, 2021 21:46:04 GMT
The one you thought was the best candidate for the job? time for a list of 2000000 footballers no one has or will ever hear off again. This clown talking out the wrong end again. Funny how dozens have been signed over the past year or so by clubs in a higher position than us if "no one has or will ever hear off again".
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