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Post by bidefordgas on Dec 10, 2021 17:50:18 GMT
You dont have to go looking for much to question his suitability to be a manager to varying degrees I mean Joey basically rubbished the entire division and belittled his own team in the process today. Which doesnt exactly reflect well on his own abilities if you flipped it. Trying to be clever, when he really isnt He says Rochdale are a really good side before then saying there’s no good sides in the division. Blokes making it up as he goes along Your quoting him totally out of context, listen to the interview he says the good sides are the Man city's etc not sides in league two.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 17:51:58 GMT
So an article in a national news outlet is released about our manager and we shouldn’t discuss it because some of it isn’t very complementary about him. Alrighty then. I think that it's interesting to discuss the article as a complete piece of work, not sure how many on here have read it in full though. Fair point. Which part did you feel was particularly complimentary to him though? The screenshots shares are no doubt the “worst” bits but the whole thing wasn’t hugely complimentary was it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 17:54:30 GMT
He says Rochdale are a really good side before then saying there’s no good sides in the division. Blokes making it up as he goes along Your quoting him totally out of context, listen to the interview he says the good sides are the Man city's etc not sides in league two. Ah ok…so his side are 17th in a division with no good sides in it..,.what sure that makes him and us then?
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Post by Jomo on Dec 10, 2021 18:02:02 GMT
He says Rochdale are a really good side before then saying there’s no good sides in the division. Blokes making it up as he goes along Your quoting him totally out of context, listen to the interview he says the good sides are the Man city's etc not sides in league two. I'd like to think I don't "pick apart" his interviews as I do want him to do well here, but he doesn't help himself when he says dumb stuff like "there are no good sides at this level". I do sort of see where he is coming from in that all sides have weaknesses, but to say there are no good sides is patently false. You don't have to be Man City or Liverpool to be a good side. Brighton for example are a good Premier League side, Fulham are a good Championship side, and the likes of Swindon, Leyton Orient and Forest Green are good L2 sides. Joey needs to cut out this thing of comparing lower league football with elite PL / ECL football. We are a lower league side and we don't need to aspire to be like the elite, we have to be well drilled and competitive against our peers in order to climb the football pyramid. Whatever the PL sides are doing is irrelevant to us, and JB ought to realise that by now and quit belittling the level he is managing at.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Dec 10, 2021 18:06:53 GMT
I think that it's interesting to discuss the article as a complete piece of work, not sure how many on here have read it in full though. Fair point. Which part did you feel was particularly complimentary to him though? The screenshots shares are no doubt the “worst” bits but the whole thing wasn’t hugely complimentary was it? I guess it depends which quotes are published as to how the article portrays him. It's certainly not ground breaking journalism to re-hash negative quotes from years ago. Things such as mentioning the cigar incident with the Man City youth player is a prime example - no reference to the fact that the lad had set fire to Barton's shirt beforehand, therefore, lack of context - although, in no way would I condone what Barton did. The Sporting Chance guy and the Man City Academy coach seemed to have been able to see the positive side of him, whilst still acknowledging that he has a dark side. I agree that, on whole, it is not a complimentary piece of writing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 18:08:54 GMT
Your quoting him totally out of context, listen to the interview he says the good sides are the Man city's etc not sides in league two. I'd like to think I don't "pick apart" his interviews as I do want him to do well here, but he doesn't help himself when he says dumb stuff like "there are no good sides at this level". I do sort of see where he is coming from in that all sides have weaknesses, but to say there are no good sides is patently false. You don't have to be Man City or Liverpool to be a good side. Brighton for example are a good Premier League side, Fulham are a good Championship side, and the likes of Swindon, Leyton Orient and Forest Green are good L2 sides. Joey needs to cut out this thing of comparing lower league football with elite PL / ECL football. We are a lower league side and we don't need to aspire to be like the elite, we have to be well drilled and competitive against our peers in order to climb the football pyramid. Whatever the PL sides are doing is irrelevant to us, and JB ought to realise that by now and quit belittling the level he is managing at. He’s just done every side we are going to play against team talk as well. He did this about MK last year and then they spanked us
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Post by seanclevedongas on Dec 10, 2021 18:10:49 GMT
Can we change the name of this thread to the Barton hater thread please, thet are out in force tonight, music to their ears As long as its QUEEN
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 18:11:09 GMT
I'd like to think I don't "pick apart" his interviews as I do want him to do well here, but he doesn't help himself when he says dumb stuff like "there are no good sides at this level". I do sort of see where he is coming from in that all sides have weaknesses, but to say there are no good sides is patently false. You don't have to be Man City or Liverpool to be a good side. Brighton for example are a good Premier League side, Fulham are a good Championship side, and the likes of Swindon, Leyton Orient and Forest Green are good L2 sides. Joey needs to cut out this thing of comparing lower league football with elite PL / ECL football. We are a lower league side and we don't need to aspire to be like the elite, we have to be well drilled and competitive against our peers in order to climb the football pyramid. Whatever the PL sides are doing is irrelevant to us, and JB ought to realise that by now and quit belittling the level he is managing at. He’s just done every side we are going to play against team talk as well. He did this about MK last year and then they spanked us Tbh take all this out and my main concern is if he is a good manager for BRFC which he is not and hasn’t been. He’s been a disaster results wise.
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Post by farmygas on Dec 10, 2021 18:19:57 GMT
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Post by aghast on Dec 10, 2021 19:04:09 GMT
So an article in a national news outlet is released about our manager and we shouldn’t discuss it because some of it isn’t very complementary about him. Alrighty then. The Barton Cult is very clear about this. Also; don't forget that (despite being 17th in League One after 20 games and a previous relegation as rock bottom club under his belt) - if we win tomorrow we've "turned a corner" Every time we have an occasional win, we've turned a corner. It doesn't matter if we then draw one and lose two, The Corner Is Turned and that's that. It's bizarre to me how some people support him through thick and (mainly) thin. Ok, if he was a nice guy or a great personality, that make make it more understandable, but he doesn't appear to have any redeeming features at all. What's the point of continuing to back a proven failure who talks with his fists rather than his brain? Just because he's our current manager he must be supported at all costs? No thanks.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 10, 2021 19:26:27 GMT
The Barton Cult is very clear about this. Also; don't forget that (despite being 17th in League One after 20 games and a previous relegation as rock bottom club under his belt) - if we win tomorrow we've "turned a corner" Every time we have an occasional win, we've turned a corner. It doesn't matter if we then draw one and lose two, The Corner Is Turned and that's that. It's bizarre to me how some people support him through thick and (mainly) thin. Ok, if he was a nice guy or a great personality, that make make it more understandable, but he doesn't appear to have any redeeming features at all. What's the point of continuing to back a proven failure who talks with his fists rather than his brain? Just because he's our current manager he must be supported at all costs? No thanks. Because a lot of them made it about more than just a manager. It was ideological to them, you only have to go back and read some of the comments to see they have some kind of political/personality point score for them in his appointment. A f**k you to the Liberal snowflakes. Joey Barton does what he wants, tells it how it is dunnee just like wot I done. So yes, now they are stuck with a sh** manager and have too much invested in it to see the facts for what they are. So they will still fight his corner come hell or high water. I suppose if Joey Barton is the hill you choose to die on, at least he's an accomplished Sherpa. You absolute plums.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 10, 2021 19:48:31 GMT
The Barton Cult is very clear about this. Also; don't forget that (despite being 17th in League One after 20 games and a previous relegation as rock bottom club under his belt) - if we win tomorrow we've "turned a corner" Every time we have an occasional win, we've turned a corner. It doesn't matter if we then draw one and lose two, The Corner Is Turned and that's that. It's bizarre to me how some people support him through thick and (mainly) thin. Ok, if he was a nice guy or a great personality, that make make it more understandable, but he doesn't appear to have any redeeming features at all. What's the point of continuing to back a proven failure who talks with his fists rather than his brain? Just because he's our current manager he must be supported at all costs? No thanks. I criticise Barton a fair bit, but to be honest I do think he has some redeeming qualities. He is passionate and seems to generate a positive vibe among the players, a few of which have said that his team talks and the team spirit are excellent. Gascast's interview with the assistant kit man highlights this as well. However, I'm not sure these positives do much to outweigh the many negatives he has a habit of displaying unfortunately. I do also think there are a minority of Gasheads that idolise him because he's "well 'ard" and "says it like it is" and stuff like that. Perhaps that's controversial of me to say and quite possibly I am wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 10, 2021 20:09:28 GMT
What's the obsession with the minority of fans, surely it's the majority of fans which count and as things stand they are still backing Barton or, if they aren't, then they aren't making it obvious at the matches.
Roverdrive now wants Barton sacked again but less than a month ago he was praising him after the Oxford victory.
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Post by kruger on Dec 10, 2021 20:20:04 GMT
What's the obsession with the minority of fans, surely it's the majority of fans which count and as things stand they are still backing Barton or, if they aren't, then they aren't making it obvious at the matches. Roverdrive now wants Barton sacked again but less than a month ago he was praising him after the Oxford victory. He is a trouble maker
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Post by RD on Dec 10, 2021 20:39:15 GMT
What's the obsession with the minority of fans, surely it's the majority of fans which count and as things stand they are still backing Barton or, if they aren't, then they aren't making it obvious at the matches. Roverdrive now wants Barton sacked again but less than a month ago he was praising him after the Oxford victory. He is a trouble maker And you’re a brainwashed loon
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Post by RD on Dec 10, 2021 20:41:18 GMT
What's the obsession with the minority of fans, surely it's the majority of fans which count and as things stand they are still backing Barton or, if they aren't, then they aren't making it obvious at the matches. Roverdrive now wants Barton sacked again but less than a month ago he was praising him after the Oxford victory. At least I don’t sit on the fence. I gave credit for a remarkable performance - one of the greatest comebacks many rovers fans would ever have witnessed. I hoped it would lead to us turning a corner - I was wrong. I also wanted to prove I could give credit where it was due - but now having that thrown back in my face too. What’s the f*inking point - literally can’t win.
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Post by kruger on Dec 10, 2021 20:41:58 GMT
And you’re a brainwashed loon trouble maker
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Post by Hudson1883 on Dec 10, 2021 20:42:09 GMT
We get it, you love Barton.
We get it, you hate Barton.
Meanwhile, our lads have a game tomorrow. Bring on the Dale.
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Post by RD on Dec 10, 2021 20:43:27 GMT
And you’re a brainwashed loon trouble maker Imagine a Barton fanboy calling ME a troublemaker 😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by kruger on Dec 10, 2021 21:01:15 GMT
Imagine a Barton fanboy calling ME a troublemaker 😂😂😂😂😂 I support Joey Barton because he is the Bristol Rovers manager and I can see improvement and we do have a decent squad and that's because of our manager, as far as I can see most of the Rovers support at the Mem agree with me, the odd idiot on here don't, you are not worth my time arguing with you, you are a JB hater, end of!
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