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Post by rememberhalifax on Dec 13, 2021 3:21:03 GMT
We have goals in us through out the team but would not say no to someone like Ellis to give us more options, if i had to choose though it would be another 'solid ' central defender.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Dec 13, 2021 5:01:15 GMT
As mentioned earlier, getting a proven striker with league experience in January is very hard. You have to take some sort of gamble and hope it pays off, like we did with JCH.
I actually don't mind if we go looking for a non league player of someone from Ireland for example. Hopefully at some point Clarke will return which could be our plan B target man option from the bench.
Am I right in thinking we have one squad space so others will have to leave first if we want to bring more players in.
We have Saunders to come back. Spence still hasn't had much of a look in and when he has he's not done too badly and now we have Collins who's confidence if clearly up after finally finding the net.
A RWB and then CB would be my first two priorities.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 13, 2021 9:38:07 GMT
As mentioned earlier, getting a proven striker with league experience in January is very hard. You have to take some sort of gamble and hope it pays off, like we did with JCH. I actually don't mind if we go looking for a non league player of someone from Ireland for example. Hopefully at some point Clarke will return which could be our plan B target man option from the bench. Am I right in thinking we have one squad space so others will have to leave first if we want to bring more players in. We have Saunders to come back. Spence still hasn't had much of a look in and when he has he's not done too badly and now we have Collins who's confidence if clearly up after finally finding the net. A RWB and then CB would be my first two priorities. Completely agree. If we had to prioritise, it would be RB/RWB first, as we don't have a single genuine RWB in the squad do we? Then it would be CB as I worry about our depth in that area with Hughes injured. Finally if we can bring in a mobile striker on loan that would be ideal. Someone like Kayden Jackson on loan would be good, but as you said, we have Saunders to come back, plus with Pitman as an option and Collins finding some form, plus even Hulbert/Phillips to come in if necessary, that position is less of a priority in my mind.
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Post by phillistine on Dec 13, 2021 9:44:16 GMT
I'd be tempted to put some feelers out for Pitman to see if anyone would take him loan from us and pay his full wage. I don't know what he is on but can imagine there must be better for his money. He's always capable of the odd goal etc and may be important 2nd half of the season but I feels his cons outweigh his pros at this stage of his career. I still think that Pitman will prove to be a vital player for us. I do prefer a mobile attack and indeed it is working well for us at the moment but most teams who come to the Mem are still trying to attack us as they feel that we can be beaten. if we go on a decent run then we will find that teams will start to sit deeper , crowd out our attackers and be happy to settle for a point - that is when you need an opportunist who canm make something out of nothing . Pitman will have his day again.
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Post by gashead4ever on Dec 13, 2021 10:36:23 GMT
we need a andy rammell type player
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 13, 2021 10:58:52 GMT
I'd be tempted to put some feelers out for Pitman to see if anyone would take him loan from us and pay his full wage. I don't know what he is on but can imagine there must be better for his money. He's always capable of the odd goal etc and may be important 2nd half of the season but I feels his cons outweigh his pros at this stage of his career. I still think that Pitman will prove to be a vital player for us. I do prefer a mobile attack and indeed it is working well for us at the moment but most teams who come to the Mem are still trying to attack us as they feel that we can be beaten. if we go on a decent run then we will find that teams will start to sit deeper , crowd out our attackers and be happy to settle for a point - that is when you need an opportunist who canm make something out of nothing . Pitman will have his day again. I guess that's the big calls a manager has to make. If we have a lot of the ball then Pitman is a lot more useful but he is useless when we have less of the ball. We look a much more fluid attack without him in the team. I do appreciate there is nobody better in the box for us than him but I believe we have goals elsewhere and replacing him with another striker on the same wage, might be able to offer more all round. I feel like with Pitman up front teams push up more because they know that he has no pace so can afford to take that risk. Our worst performances have been with Pitman in the side. Like I say though, I can get your argument. I think he's more likely to be a player off the bench than a full 90 player though and is he worth that?
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Post by percy on Dec 13, 2021 12:13:41 GMT
I still think that Pitman will prove to be a vital player for us. I do prefer a mobile attack and indeed it is working well for us at the moment but most teams who come to the Mem are still trying to attack us as they feel that we can be beaten. if we go on a decent run then we will find that teams will start to sit deeper , crowd out our attackers and be happy to settle for a point - that is when you need an opportunist who canm make something out of nothing . Pitman will have his day again. I guess that's the big calls a manager has to make. If we have a lot of the ball then Pitman is a lot more useful but he is useless when we have less of the ball. We look a much more fluid attack without him in the team. I do appreciate there is nobody better in the box for us than him but I believe we have goals elsewhere and replacing him with another striker on the same wage, might be able to offer more all round. I feel like with Pitman up front teams push up more because they know that he has no pace so can afford to take that risk. Our worst performances have been with Pitman in the side. Like I say though, I can get your argument. I think he's more likely to be a player off the bench than a full 90 player though and is he worth that? Agree, we will need him off the bench this season I thought the last 10-15 before we went 3-2 up on Saturday was perfect for him - lots of ball, lots of chances and crosses. But actually adding even more pace and direct running did the job, so what do I know!
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 13, 2021 23:33:00 GMT
Not necessarily a “big number 9” type of striker but a striker with some pace and some mobility. One of the good things about this side is the pace we now have after being without it for so long. Teams struggle against us with the speed of Collins and Thomas. I like Pitman but he does slow play down and we seem to be much slower when he plays. When he plays teams find us more predictable and easier to defend against even though he does threaten. And if we hadn’t had a crap linesman and ref against Salford he would have scored the winner.
UTG!
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Post by Qatar Gas on Dec 14, 2021 4:54:52 GMT
Not necessarily a “big number 9” type of striker but a striker with some pace and some mobility. One of the good things about this side is the pace we now have after being without it for so long. Teams struggle against us with the speed of Collins and Thomas. I like Pitman but he does slow play down and we seem to be much slower when he plays. When he plays teams find us more predictable and easier to defend against even though he does threaten. And if we hadn’t had a crap linesman and ref against Salford he would have scored the winner. UTG! I agree. Too many people want some sort of target man but I too feel that holds us back from our real strength right now which is pace. I cannot remember the last time we were scoring goals by forcing the opposition into a mistake from the constant pressure our forwards have been putting on their defence. I do agree that there should be some sort of alternative, number 9 or target man on the bench for a plan B. Salford was an example of that as they sat back and we couldn't break them down. Pitman came on and scored a goal that was perfectly legal.
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Post by northridinggas on Dec 14, 2021 7:26:41 GMT
I would love a Barry Hayles type of player. One who can receive a ball with his back to goal, turn the defender and get in the box.
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Post by gulfofaden on Dec 14, 2021 8:56:15 GMT
We will need someone with some league experience, bit of pace please as this will give us the dimension we are missing We have loads of pace
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Post by gulfofaden on Dec 14, 2021 8:57:21 GMT
We have goals in us through out the team but would not say no to someone like Ellis to give us more options, if i had to choose though it would be another 'solid ' central defender. Realistically we do need another CB, we are very light there. CB and a CF
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Post by herbertblake on Dec 14, 2021 8:58:31 GMT
Matty Taylor of Oxford United would be a perfect poacher to get.
But still need to use Spence,Hulbert and Phillips.
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Post by richie on Dec 14, 2021 9:24:32 GMT
We will need someone with some league experience, bit of pace please as this will give us the dimension we are missing We have loads of pace We need a real pacey forward. Thats it, I like Pitman but hes essentially the same player as Clarke and what they bring in goals, they lack in pace. RWB - we have Grant, Anderton, Hoole, even Kilgour or Saunders at a push. The CBs feel a little light but im not gonna cry if we dont get one plenty of cover there.
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 14, 2021 9:45:07 GMT
we need a andy rammell type player Isn’t that meant to be pitman? I would prefer a Roberts, Hayles, Agogo type of player.
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Post by percy on Dec 14, 2021 10:47:37 GMT
We need a real pacey forward. Thats it, I like Pitman but hes essentially the same player as Clarke and what they bring in goals, they lack in pace. RWB - we have Grant, Anderton, Hoole, even Kilgour or Saunders at a push. The CBs feel a little light but im not gonna cry if we dont get one plenty of cover there. Disagree with this. Hoole is a RB and Anderton a LWB. Kilgour has been poor everytime hes played as full back and is currently injured. Anderson currently playing the RWB role is great going forward and gives his all, but defensively not great! I'd be happy with just adding a solid CB as covee who can play right of a 2 or the RCB role tho.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Dec 14, 2021 12:14:51 GMT
It's a squad game and having a big, strong player, who can hold the ball up, plus really unsettle a defence would be my preference. Don't get me wrong I think what makes us dangerous as a team is that we have players that can run with the ball and have excellent movement up front, but I think there are times, especially when trying to defend a lead, that a player that can help defend set pieces and hold the ball upfront and get the team up the pitch, is needed. The Rochdale lad looked fairly decent on Saturday.
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Post by brfc on Dec 14, 2021 12:49:03 GMT
It's a squad game and having a big, strong player, who can hold the ball up, plus really unsettle a defence would be my preference. Don't get me wrong I think what makes us dangerous as a team is that we have players that can run with the ball and have excellent movement up front, but I think there are times, especially when trying to defend a lead, that a player that can help defend set pieces and hold the ball upfront and get the team up the pitch, is needed. The Rochdale lad looked fairly decent on Saturday. That was I was gonna say I wouldn’t mind Rochdale forward Jake Beesley.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2021 15:20:40 GMT
we need a andy rammell type player Why, so we can go back to playing hoof ball?
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2021 15:24:22 GMT
Matty Taylor of Oxford United would be a perfect poacher to get. But still need to use Spence,Hulbert and Phillips. And of course Taylor is going to join us, or any L2 side for that matter. Although we need a No 9 not No 10 anyway.
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