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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 15, 2021 7:13:07 GMT
All this information via covid passports etc is an absolute nonsense. Everyone carries around a piece of equipment everyday which gives authorities pretty much all the information on you they need. It’s called a mobile phone. If GCHQ, MI5, Parliament or any other company wanted to they could land a drone on your head right now such is information that passes on through GPS location, tracking, your actual phones operating system together with the general information that is constantly beaming around mast and information centres. The time for worrying about information collection and big brother watching passed years ago before 3G came into existence. Anyway, no conspiracy theory talk going forward from here please, let’s keep this gas related and how the nonsense that is leaking out of number 10 every day will effect us personally watching rovers. Ta muchly. Agreed. There are things we do everyday which we don't know the ins and outs of. Food and drink we put in our body etc. I'm booked in for me booster on Saturday. Will be spending Xmas day with elderly relatives of my partner's so the last thing I want to do is pass Covid on to any of them. I know I still could but the risk is much less likely. |
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Post by pirate on Dec 15, 2021 7:33:01 GMT
All this information via covid passports etc is an absolute nonsense. Everyone carries around a piece of equipment everyday which gives authorities pretty much all the information on you they need. It’s called a mobile phone. If GCHQ, MI5, Parliament or any other company wanted to they could land a drone on your head right now such is information that passes on through GPS location, tracking, your actual phones operating system together with the general information that is constantly beaming around mast and information centres. The time for worrying about information collection and big brother watching passed years ago before 3G came into existence. Anyway, no conspiracy theory talk going forward from here please, let’s keep this gas related and how the nonsense that is leaking out of number 10 every day will effect us personally watching rovers. Ta muchly. Absolute nonsense? Maybe you'll be happy in a future social credit system, but millions won't. It's coming. |
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Post by richie on Dec 15, 2021 7:56:25 GMT
All this information via covid passports etc is an absolute nonsense. Everyone carries around a piece of equipment everyday which gives authorities pretty much all the information on you they need. It’s called a mobile phone. If GCHQ, MI5, Parliament or any other company wanted to they could land a drone on your head right now such is information that passes on through GPS location, tracking, your actual phones operating system together with the general information that is constantly beaming around mast and information centres. The time for worrying about information collection and big brother watching passed years ago before 3G came into existence. Anyway, no conspiracy theory talk going forward from here please, let’s keep this gas related and how the nonsense that is leaking out of number 10 every day will effect us personally watching rovers. Ta muchly. Absolute nonsense? Maybe you'll be happy in a future social credit system, but millions won't. It's coming. its already here in some form. As for personal data thats old news. They can have what they want from me, getting boosted Sunday, given our ageing fanbase we need to keep as many people alive as possible to support the club |
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Post by gassince1957 on Dec 15, 2021 8:07:31 GMT
I'm not sure I understand why this is a major issue. If people refuse vaccinations (other than for medical exemptions) they will have to accept they cannot attend various locations whilst the rules are in place. Looking at the queues for jabs, I think it's fair to say a lot of the refuseniks have quickly changed their minds - exactly as happened when France introduced Covid passports.
Also I'm pretty sure Rovers WILL have to use the passports as a condition of entry as our standing crowd is well in excess of 4,000.
According to the Evil Post, 85% of 'teds who were polled said they would continue attending games and showing passports and I would imagine a similar percentage of Gasheads would say the same thing.
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Post by syg on Dec 15, 2021 8:08:29 GMT
Papers please!!! The company who signed a contract with the UK government for 'covid passports' is ENTRUST. The company is owned by the Quandt family who came out of WW2 and were all part of the Nazi party.
In 1937, Günther Quandt was appointed the “War Economy Führer.” Harald Quandt was an officer in the German Luftwaffe, his mother Magda and stepfather was Joseph Goebbels.
In 1943, and with direct support from the SS, the Quandts were able to establish a company-owned concentration camp directly alongside their battery works in Hanover.
The business owned by the brothers Herbert and Harald Quandt made Mauser firearms and anti-aircraft missiles for the Third Reich’s war machine.
Oh please. So did IBM, rockets, the space race and Lord knows what else. |
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Post by wertongas on Dec 15, 2021 8:22:27 GMT
www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-on-coronavirus-covid-19-measures-for-elite-sport/elite-sport-operationsFrom 6am on Wednesday 15th December (subject to the approval of Parliament), certain businesses and some events are required by law to check the COVID status of customers, using the NHS COVID Pass. This includes unseated indoor events with 500 or more attendees, unseated outdoor events with 4,000 or more attendees and any event with 10,000 or more attendees. Only customers who are fully vaccinated or have tested negative in the last 48 hours can be admitted (unless they are exempt from these requirements). Read the guidance on mandatory COVID status checks for organisations for more information. This will mean that a fair few clubs will not need to provide Covid checks. Carlisle ain't one of them: www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-league-two-2021-2022/1/ Carlisle can probably get round this because they have a capacity of over 16000, most is seating but also terrace, if they close the terraced area just keep the seating it would bring the capacity down to below 10,000 avoiding need for COVID passes . Unfortunately we don't have enough seating to do that. I am going to contact TG shortly hopefully he will get back to me and confirm things and put an announcement out on the official site. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 15, 2021 8:26:31 GMT
Do we even have the technology to scan them? Don’t need to scan them necessarily, can just eyeball them. |
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Post by pirate on Dec 15, 2021 8:30:29 GMT
I'm not sure I understand why this is a major issue. If people refuse vaccinations (other than for medical exemptions) they will have to accept they cannot attend various locations whilst the rules are in place. Looking at the queues for jabs, I think it's fair to say a lot of the refuseniks have quickly changed their minds - exactly as happened when France introduced Covid passports. Also I'm pretty sure Rovers WILL have to use the passports as a condition of entry as our standing crowd is well in excess of 4,000. According to the Evil Post, 85% of 'teds who were polled said they would continue attending games and showing passports and I would imagine a similar percentage of Gasheads would say the same thing. The Nuremburg code prohibits medical procedures without consent. To exclude people from certain parts of society without a vaccine is coercion and coercion is not consent. We must uphold the Nuremburg code at all costs. |
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Post by wertongas on Dec 15, 2021 8:40:48 GMT
I'm not sure I understand why this is a major issue. If people refuse vaccinations (other than for medical exemptions) they will have to accept they cannot attend various locations whilst the rules are in place. Looking at the queues for jabs, I think it's fair to say a lot of the refuseniks have quickly changed their minds - exactly as happened when France introduced Covid passports. Also I'm pretty sure Rovers WILL have to use the passports as a condition of entry as our standing crowd is well in excess of 4,000. According to the Evil Post, 85% of 'teds who were polled said they would continue attending games and showing passports and I would imagine a similar percentage of Gasheads would say the same thing. The Nuremburg code prohibits medical procedures without consent. To exclude people from certain parts of society without a vaccine is coercion and coercion is not consent. We must uphold the Nuremburg code at all costs. It is a case of principles or your health .which comes first . Don't have to have the jab , don't have to go to the events it's a person's choice . |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Dec 15, 2021 8:44:50 GMT
Do we even have the technology to scan them? Don’t need to scan them necessarily, can just eyeball them. What would stop someone from just taking a screenshot of someone else’s? Seems pointless. |
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Post by pepsi on Dec 15, 2021 9:05:46 GMT
The Nuremburg code prohibits medical procedures without consent. To exclude people from certain parts of society without a vaccine is coercion and coercion is not consent. We must uphold the Nuremburg code at all costs. It is a case of principles or your health .which comes first . Don't have to have the jab , don't have to go to the events it's a person's choice . Well not quite, For those who can’t (or choose not to)have the jab you can do a LFT, I’ve had many many over this year. No issues with it at all takes 20 minutes… |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 15, 2021 9:15:19 GMT
Don’t need to scan them necessarily, can just eyeball them. What would stop someone from just taking a screenshot of someone else’s? Seems pointless. Still a problem if you scan them. They don’t have photo ID stored alongside/on them. To prove it’s you you’d need to check photo ID alongside. Which is exactly what they did when I visited Budapest - eyeballed them and asked for some photo ID |
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 15, 2021 10:49:00 GMT
That article is from June. It’s just a Covid pass you need now. You don’t give out any new details, unless it’s due to change. Not sure why people are so worried, what are that trying to hide😂. Ironically the quote "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" has been attributed to Harald Quandt's stepfather, the Minister of Public Enlightenment. 😆 People can take a paper copy of proof of vaccine or show proof of a lateral flow test within the last 48 hours of the event. So they don’t need to sign up anyway. The original idea of the passport was scrapped anyway. You don’t even need the app, you just go onto the nhs website and they already have your details anyway. Easier to track you through your phone, bank card or a lot of other ways. Some people are so paranoid and believe anything that is shared around. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Dec 15, 2021 11:04:00 GMT
My son had his 2nd Pfizer jab in South Africa. For some reason it's not recognised by the NHS, so he can't get a Covid passport or a booster jab here. He's happy to do a lateral flow test before attending matches, so hopefully we're sorted!
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Post by badengas on Dec 15, 2021 11:22:56 GMT
I'm not sure I understand why this is a major issue. If people refuse vaccinations (other than for medical exemptions) they will have to accept they cannot attend various locations whilst the rules are in place. Looking at the queues for jabs, I think it's fair to say a lot of the refuseniks have quickly changed their minds - exactly as happened when France introduced Covid passports. Also I'm pretty sure Rovers WILL have to use the passports as a condition of entry as our standing crowd is well in excess of 4,000. According to the Evil Post, 85% of 'teds who were polled said they would continue attending games and showing passports and I would imagine a similar percentage of Gasheads would say the same thing. 85% of Teds are in the same family bubble so will be fine if any further restrictions return. |
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Post by richie on Dec 15, 2021 11:25:54 GMT
I'm not sure I understand why this is a major issue. If people refuse vaccinations (other than for medical exemptions) they will have to accept they cannot attend various locations whilst the rules are in place. Looking at the queues for jabs, I think it's fair to say a lot of the refuseniks have quickly changed their minds - exactly as happened when France introduced Covid passports. Also I'm pretty sure Rovers WILL have to use the passports as a condition of entry as our standing crowd is well in excess of 4,000. According to the Evil Post, 85% of 'teds who were polled said they would continue attending games and showing passports and I would imagine a similar percentage of Gasheads would say the same thing. 85% of Teds are in the same family bubble so will be fine if any further restrictions return. 85% of Teds are married to their sisters which probably helps with the family bubble |
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Post by gulfofaden on Dec 15, 2021 11:29:54 GMT
All this information via covid passports etc is an absolute nonsense. Everyone carries around a piece of equipment everyday which gives authorities pretty much all the information on you they need. It’s called a mobile phone. If GCHQ, MI5, Parliament or any other company wanted to they could land a drone on your head right now such is information that passes on through GPS location, tracking, your actual phones operating system together with the general information that is constantly beaming around mast and information centres. The time for worrying about information collection and big brother watching passed years ago before 3G came into existence. Anyway, no conspiracy theory talk going forward from here please, let’s keep this gas related and how the nonsense that is leaking out of number 10 every day will effect us personally watching rovers. Ta muchly. That all makes sense, but you signed off with a request to no longer discuss it. This makes people wonder if you work for them. You’re in on it. Gashead 1981? More like Gashead 1984! |
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Post by wertongas on Dec 15, 2021 11:39:06 GMT
85% of Teds are in the same family bubble so will be fine if any further restrictions return. 85% of Teds are married to their sisters which probably helps with the family bubble They are also illiterate, can't think for themselves so do what they are told . Overall a pretty sad lot. |
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Post by francegas on Dec 15, 2021 12:05:04 GMT
I'm not sure I understand why this is a major issue. If people refuse vaccinations (other than for medical exemptions) they will have to accept they cannot attend various locations whilst the rules are in place. Looking at the queues for jabs, I think it's fair to say a lot of the refuseniks have quickly changed their minds - exactly as happened when France introduced Covid passports. Also I'm pretty sure Rovers WILL have to use the passports as a condition of entry as our standing crowd is well in excess of 4,000. According to the Evil Post, 85% of 'teds who were polled said they would continue attending games and showing passports and I would imagine a similar percentage of Gasheads would say the same thing. France certainly was a nation of anti vaxxers with a reported 60% of people refusing the vaccine . That changed when Macron came out to say you would not be able to go to a bar, restaurant, bistro, cinema etc etc unless you were vaccinated.(try telling the french they cannot have their morning coffee) We can not even sit outside of a bar to have a coffee without showing our vaccine passport and having our QR code scanned. It just seems the norm to us. All the QR code tells is your name, date of birth, date of vaccine and which vaccine you had. I agree with you that unvaccinated people (through choice) will have to accept they cannot attend various locations. Until everyone is vaccinated I see the UK having a two tier society of vaccinated and unvaccinated. In respect of showing a vaccine pass to attend football I don't see the problem. In reality how many people are going to use some one else's pass compared to those that will be honest and follow the rules. |
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2021 12:11:41 GMT
I've got to have a Passport to travel abroad and a Driving Licence to operate a car, so all this "freedom to do what I want" crap, get over it.
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