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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 16, 2021 22:18:05 GMT
Having an opinion is slightly different to spreading total nonsense. Coming from Topper that is a laugh. What is "nonsense" about anything I've posted, care to enlighten me? Just because it causes you and others a bit of cognitive dissonance doesn't make it "nonsense". Virtually every day in the press someone is reported to have died from COVID yesterday we lost Jethro, I can't recall reading many articles about losing anybody to a serious jab reaction, apart from one woman in her 20's. It really is ludicrous to suggest anybody is safer not having the jab to having one. If it was why are counties like Germany and Austria now forcing every citizen to undergo COVID vaccines.
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Post by aghast on Dec 16, 2021 22:25:01 GMT
Coming from Topper that is a laugh. What is "nonsense" about anything I've posted, care to enlighten me? Just because it causes you and others a bit of cognitive dissonance doesn't make it "nonsense". Virtually every day in the press someone is reported to have died from COVID yesterday we lost Jethro, I can't recall reading many articles about losing anybody to a serious jab reaction, apart from one woman in her 20's. It really is ludicrous to suggest anybody is safer not having the jab to having one. If it was why are counties like Germany and Austria now forcing every citizen to undergo COVID vaccines. Apparently it's all part of a grand plan to enslave the masses, led by a global conspiracy which has been in development for decades. And that's no joke. I've spoken to several people who are deadly serious about it. I don't think they've been vaccinated.
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Post by somersetgas27 on Dec 16, 2021 22:28:06 GMT
The VAERS site is an unregulated database that anybody can deposit data in that is unverified. The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) claims that thousands of people died from receiving COVID-19 vaccines. It fails to mention that anyone can report events to VAERS and that the database contains unverified information, describes reported deaths of individuals who died after receiving the vaccine as deaths caused by the vaccine, when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has so far found no evidence that vaccinations led to patient deaths.
Of the 145 million COVID-19 vaccine doses administered in the United States from Dec. 14, 2020 through March 29, 2021, “VAERS received 2,509 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.” Having reviewed “available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records,” the CDC found “no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths”
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 16, 2021 22:29:59 GMT
Having an opinion is slightly different to spreading total nonsense. Coming from Topper that is a laugh. What is "nonsense" about anything I've posted, care to enlighten me? Just because it causes you and others a bit of cognitive dissonance doesn't make it "nonsense". news.yahoo.com/article...ocument-reveals-144149390.htmlIt sounds like your spreading dangerous anti vaxx propaganda?
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Post by blueridge on Dec 16, 2021 22:33:08 GMT
Why because you don’t agree with his opinion , in which he is entitled to ? Everything that’s wrong in this country in a nut shell Nut case more like. We actually can, and should silence anyone that promotes views that can endanger people's lives. Pirate, please keep your antivax nonsense to General chat. Totally agree - does this Pirate fellow wear a seat belt I wonder - a Government imposed safety legal requirement for the benefit of everyone - in 99.9% cases it has saved lives as opposed to a death occurring because of wearing a seatbelt. Hopefully he’s banned from the Mem if he hasn’t been vaccinated - selfish barsteward!! IMO any anti - vaxing postings should be banned from this forum.
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Post by Okebournegas on Dec 16, 2021 22:40:06 GMT
Virtually every day in the press someone is reported to have died from COVID yesterday we lost Jethro, I can't recall reading many articles about losing anybody to a serious jab reaction, apart from one woman in her 20's. It really is ludicrous to suggest anybody is safer not having the jab to having one. If it was why are counties like Germany and Austria now forcing every citizen to undergo COVID vaccines. Apparently it's all part of a grand plan to enslave the masses, led by a global conspiracy which has been in development for decades. And that's no joke. I've spoken to several people who are deadly serious about it. I don't think they've been vaccinated. Just so I’m abundantly clear , I have not and will not be getting the vaccine but don’t include myself in the above utter drivel as that’s not my view, not everyone that doesn’t want the vaccine is an ‘anti vaxxer’ or believes that Bill Gates is gaining access to my thoughts , I simply do not want it due to my own personal choice In which I don’t feel the need to justify to anyone. I’m just a normal family guy living my life like everyone else who just had a differing opinion
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Post by aghast on Dec 16, 2021 22:41:46 GMT
Coming from Topper that is a laugh. What is "nonsense" about anything I've posted, care to enlighten me? Just because it causes you and others a bit of cognitive dissonance doesn't make it "nonsense". news.yahoo.com/article...ocument-reveals-144149390.htmlIt sounds like your spreading dangerous anti vaxx propaganda? I think that's the key point. Yes, there has been a number of deaths attributable to the vaccines, which has been latched onto by the Freedom Fighters, but, regrettable though any deaths are, it's a vanishingly small number and totally inconsequential compared to the number of lives saved and hospital admissions avoided.
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Post by Okebournegas on Dec 16, 2021 22:43:18 GMT
Nut case more like. We actually can, and should silence anyone that promotes views that can endanger people's lives. Pirate, please keep your antivax nonsense to General chat. Totally agree - does this Pirate fellow wear a seat belt I wonder - a Government imposed safety legal requirement for the benefit of everyone - in 99.9% cases it has saved lives as opposed to a death occurring because of wearing a seatbelt. Hopefully he’s banned from the Mem if he hasn’t been vaccinated - selfish barsteward!! IMO any anti - vaxing postings should be banned from this forum. Totally unnecessary and rude comment , again , he shares a difference of opinion so he is to be banned from the mem and the forum , and you also deem it necessary to swear at him from behind your phone , behave.
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Post by aghast on Dec 16, 2021 22:43:24 GMT
Apparently it's all part of a grand plan to enslave the masses, led by a global conspiracy which has been in development for decades. And that's no joke. I've spoken to several people who are deadly serious about it. I don't think they've been vaccinated. Just so I’m abundantly clear , I have not and will not be getting the vaccine but don’t include myself in the above utter drivel as that’s not my view, not everyone that doesn’t want the vaccine is an ‘anti vaxxer’ or believes that Bill Gates is gaining access to my thoughts , I simply do not want it due to my own personal choice In which I don’t feel the need to justify to anyone. I’m just a normal family guy living my life like everyone else who just had a differing opinion Didn't say you were, and wasn't thinking of you in my post. But I do know several who believe this stuff. Passionately.
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Post by Okebournegas on Dec 16, 2021 22:46:31 GMT
Just so I’m abundantly clear , I have not and will not be getting the vaccine but don’t include myself in the above utter drivel as that’s not my view, not everyone that doesn’t want the vaccine is an ‘anti vaxxer’ or believes that Bill Gates is gaining access to my thoughts , I simply do not want it due to my own personal choice In which I don’t feel the need to justify to anyone. I’m just a normal family guy living my life like everyone else who just had a differing opinion Didn't say you were, and wasn't thinking of you in my post. But I do know several who believe this stuff. Passionately. I wasn’t accusing you of saying anything against me per se , I just wanted to make you aware that not everyone who doesn’t want the vaccine is a nut job conspiracy theorist.
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Post by blueridge on Dec 16, 2021 22:51:12 GMT
Totally agree - does this Pirate fellow wear a seat belt I wonder - a Government imposed safety legal requirement for the benefit of everyone - in 99.9% cases it has saved lives as opposed to a death occurring because of wearing a seatbelt. Hopefully he’s banned from the Mem if he hasn’t been vaccinated - selfish barsteward!! IMO any anti - vaxing postings should be banned from this forum. Totally unnecessary and rude comment , again , he shares a difference of opinion so he is to be banned from the mem and the forum , and you also deem it necessary to swear at him from behind your phone , behave. You need to grow up and get real - he WILL be banned as will you. Make no mistake I will say anything I have to say to your face if I had too -We are all in serious situation and you are naive and selfish enough to ignore it - pathetic.
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Post by pirate on Dec 16, 2021 22:55:44 GMT
Coming from Topper that is a laugh. What is "nonsense" about anything I've posted, care to enlighten me? Just because it causes you and others a bit of cognitive dissonance doesn't make it "nonsense". Virtually every day in the press someone is reported to have died from COVID yesterday we lost Jethro, I can't recall reading many articles about losing anybody to a serious jab reaction, apart from one woman in her 20's. It really is ludicrous to suggest anybody is safer not having the jab to having one. If it was why are counties like Germany and Austria now forcing every citizen to undergo COVID vaccines. Topper hasn't read any, so there can't have been any. How about the 44-year-old BBC presenter Lisa Shaw that suffered a brain haemorrhage? That was quite high profile. Many others, like the ones in the article below posted by one of the inventors of the mRNA technology. Germany and Austria? * Checks history books *
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Post by aghast on Dec 16, 2021 22:56:01 GMT
Didn't say you were, and wasn't thinking of you in my post. But I do know several who believe this stuff. Passionately. I wasn’t accusing you of saying anything against me per se , I just wanted to make you aware that not everyone who doesn’t want the vaccine is a nut job conspiracy theorist. Yes I appreciate that and do understand it's not for everyone. I hope this isn't all moved to General Chat, because it's mainly been civil and reasonable. It affects all of us, and affects the club we all support in a huge way, and it's directly connected to football. Wael must be worried. It's ok to disagree, and discuss the effects on football, pubs, freedoms, and debate views on the actions being taken to address the issue as it affects our lives and beliefs. Just need to keep it civil and reasonable and then no-one needs to be banned or fall out with anyone else.
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Post by pirate on Dec 16, 2021 22:56:28 GMT
Coming from Topper that is a laugh. What is "nonsense" about anything I've posted, care to enlighten me? Just because it causes you and others a bit of cognitive dissonance doesn't make it "nonsense". news.yahoo.com/article...ocument-reveals-144149390.htmlIt sounds like your spreading dangerous anti vaxx propaganda? Link doesn't work.
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Post by pirate on Dec 16, 2021 22:59:47 GMT
Totally agree - does this Pirate fellow wear a seat belt I wonder - a Government imposed safety legal requirement for the benefit of everyone - in 99.9% cases it has saved lives as opposed to a death occurring because of wearing a seatbelt. Hopefully he’s banned from the Mem if he hasn’t been vaccinated - selfish barsteward!! IMO any anti - vaxing postings should be banned from this forum. Totally unnecessary and rude comment , again , he shares a difference of opinion so he is to be banned from the mem and the forum , and you also deem it necessary to swear at him from behind your phone , behave. Brave and tough warrior is blueridge when sat behind a keyboard.
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Post by Okebournegas on Dec 16, 2021 23:06:06 GMT
I wasn’t accusing you of saying anything against me per se , I just wanted to make you aware that not everyone who doesn’t want the vaccine is a nut job conspiracy theorist. Yes I appreciate that and do understand it's not for everyone. I hope this isn't all moved to General Chat, because it's mainly been civil and reasonable. It affects all of us, and affects the club we all support in a huge way, and it's directly connected to football. Wael must be worried. It's ok to disagree, and discuss the effects on football, pubs, freedoms, and debate views on the actions being taken to address the issue as it affects our lives and beliefs. Just need to keep it civil and reasonable and then no-one needs to be banned or fall out with anyone else. Top man
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Post by Okebournegas on Dec 16, 2021 23:10:18 GMT
Totally unnecessary and rude comment , again , he shares a difference of opinion so he is to be banned from the mem and the forum , and you also deem it necessary to swear at him from behind your phone , behave. You need to grow up and get real - he WILL be banned as will you. Make no mistake I will say anything I have to say to your face if I had too -We are all in serious situation and you are naive and selfish enough to ignore it - pathetic. Come on tough guy , lower your tone as there really is no need of it. I would also like to politely remind you that it really is bad for your health to start gobbing off at people you don’t know , fortunately for you I’m not a nutter but I do fear that with your attitude you may end up getting your nose put to the back of your head one day by doing so to the wrong person , be careful
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 16, 2021 23:17:02 GMT
We’ve been discussing this thread amongst the mod team and there’s a bit of a split decision regards locking the thread or leaving it be.
Please - let’s drop the antagonism and vaccine effectiveness discussion asap and keep this to football chat else this thread WILL be locked.
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Post by wertongas on Dec 16, 2021 23:36:13 GMT
On a football related note, EFL have said providing a club has 14 fit registered players including a goalkeeper they will have to fulfill fixtures even if there are a considerable number of players out with COVID. Since we already have a long injury list if COVID strikes we may have to play some of the kids.
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Post by straighouttabristol on Dec 17, 2021 0:13:41 GMT
What ever peoples views on it is, I’m not surprised that footballers are choosing not to get vaxxed when so many are collapsing or having breathing problems. Also I think instead of turning the thread into a vax be anti vax argument just respect peoples choice to get it or not.
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