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Post by bluebiro on Dec 28, 2021 10:59:55 GMT
We are playing the covid card like all the other clubs with a injury and suspension list.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 28, 2021 11:37:00 GMT
Not sure you can just rewrite the rules during the Festive Season so we've all got a game to watch! The last thing we need is to be dragged into a relegation battle after being forced to play youngsters. I guess the argument is teams will have players who havent played ONE league game. As if ONE league game makes all the difference They (EFL) say clubs will be expected to play where it has 14 players including a goalkeeper available from registered squad list, along with 'Under 21 players not on the squad list but who have played one League match, or any other contracted player not on the squad list but otherwise would have been eligible to play'. I guess it could if we had a bunch of 18 year olds who'd never played a game and we were now expected to play them all tomorrow night? I assume youngsters out on loan don't count, so it's a fairly meaningless rule anyway.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 28, 2021 11:40:21 GMT
Not sure you can just rewrite the rules during the Festive Season so we've all got a game to watch! The last thing we need is to be dragged into a relegation battle after being forced to play youngsters. If everyone is in the same boat in having to field their youngsters, we won't be at any more of a disadvantage than the other teams, unless we have considerably more cases, which is just luck of the draw like any other injury situation, as peterparker said. But not every club will be at the same disadvantage, some may have no COVID cases others half a dozen or more, we're probably already worse off than most to start with given our extended injury list.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 28, 2021 11:53:49 GMT
If everyone is in the same boat in having to field their youngsters, we won't be at any more of a disadvantage than the other teams, unless we have considerably more cases, which is just luck of the draw like any other injury situation, as peterparker said. But not every club will be at the same disadvantage, some may have no COVID cases others half a dozen or more, we're probably already worse off than most to start with given our extended injury list. Like we said, luck of the draw. We've had crappy luck with injuries all season so far. Why would the number of COVID cases we have compared to other teams be any different to that?
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Post by chilly1883 on Dec 28, 2021 12:34:27 GMT
if people don’t want to be vaccinated, that’s the end of it! FFS, know one should be made to do anything. I’ve been doubled vaccinated, but I’ll not have another, I’ve played the game and it’s not got me anywhere. No travel, no football, and lost my Dad to it. So covid can now get f**ked Sorry for your loss mate thanks mate appreciate it
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 28, 2021 12:57:52 GMT
But not every club will be at the same disadvantage, some may have no COVID cases others half a dozen or more, we're probably already worse off than most to start with given our extended injury list. Like we said, luck of the draw. We've had crappy luck with injuries all season so far. Why would the number of COVID cases we have compared to other teams be any different to that? Simple really, we're asking for games to be called off whereas the other clubs seemed content to play, that suggests to me we've got less than the required 14 fit players whereas the others have got sufficient players. Some clubs might not have not lost any players to COVID. It seems odd to me posters still want us to play when we don't have enough fit players, as what enjoyment will they get from us losing even if they are desperate to watch Rovers play.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 28, 2021 13:08:17 GMT
Like we said, luck of the draw. We've had crappy luck with injuries all season so far. Why would the number of COVID cases we have compared to other teams be any different to that? Simple really, we're asking for games to be called off whereas the other clubs seemed content to play, that suggests to me we've got less than the required 14 fit players whereas the others have got sufficient players. Some clubs might not have not lost any players to COVID. It seems odd to me posters still want us to play when we don't have enough fit players, as what enjoyment will they get from us losing even if they are desperate to watch Rovers play. I'm not saying I want us to play. I'm saying there's logic to me in saying to the entire football pyramid, if you have enough players in your squad to play, including U21's, then every team should be able to play. I don't know whether we have enough or not, but my main point stems from those at the top end of the game complaining they don't have enough players which is patently false, as they have squads of dozens of players. And by extension, as I don't like to be outright biased towards my own club simply because I support them as that would render my argument invalid, I would make every club in the football league follow the same criteria. Some clubs still might not be able to play, which would be fair enough in my view. I don't want us to have an unfair disadvantage, but if every club plays by the same set of rules, there wouldn't be an unfair disadvantage.
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Post by baggins on Dec 28, 2021 14:03:00 GMT
Guess by default that's the Orient game off for New Years Day?
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Dec 28, 2021 14:04:13 GMT
Just kick us out the league ffs
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Post by playtowin on Dec 28, 2021 14:16:05 GMT
You only need 2 of the rovers first team squad to test positive. The 2 keepers. Then its not reasonable to play a fixture.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 28, 2021 15:43:59 GMT
You only need 2 of the rovers first team squad to test positive. The 2 keepers. Then its not reasonable to play a fixture. Not sure that's correct as we can always sign an emergency loan keeper? Plus we must have a few youngsters we can call on, we probably need to lose 5 or 6+ to COVID.
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Post by herbertblake on Dec 28, 2021 16:36:22 GMT
With Scunthorpe Sutton, Crawley off why is it taking so long to rearrange the matches for mid week games in March and April?
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Post by olskooltoteender on Dec 28, 2021 17:21:23 GMT
Because you'd hope they'd like to set an example to their supporters, given the environment they mix close contact with fellow players etc then they must be a bit brain dead not to have all had the vaccine, in fact you could suggest Barton was negligent in not attempting to ensure most of his players were vaccinated. if people don’t want to be vaccinated, that’s the end of it! FFS, know one should be made to do anything. I’ve been doubled vaccinated, but I’ll not have another, I’ve played the game and it’s not got me anywhere. No travel, no football, and lost my Dad to it. So covid can now get f**ked Sorry for your loss mate- completely agree on the booster thing - I’ve had the original two shots, cos I could foresee a time when employers would start with the “No jab, no job” thing, just as the NHS will be doing come January, in fact. But that’s it, no more. I’ve worked throughout the lockdowns, mixing with people whose adherence to personal hygiene and social distancing is sketchy at best. The way this is going, Doris, Whitty, Vallence & the rest will have you all queuing for “boosters” every other f**king week. There are at least 20 more letters in the Greek alphabet they haven’t used yet . . .
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Post by gassa on Dec 28, 2021 21:30:56 GMT
Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere but isn't the League Cup optional for any club? You have to enter the FA Cup but not the League Cup. And didn't Man Utd not play in it when they were involved in the World Club Championships a few years back? The uproar was not that they pulled out but that a big draw was missing thus damaging the credibility of the competition. If Premier Lge clubs abandon the League Cup, look out for the PL Cup/Shield/Plate/Trophy/Tournament...
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Post by Colyton Gas on Dec 28, 2021 21:47:20 GMT
The title holders Manchester United, withdrew from the 1999–2000 competition due to their participation in the 2000 FIFA Club World Championship in South America, to take place in early 2000, thus becoming the first FA Cup winners not to defend their title.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 29, 2021 7:20:31 GMT
We have to be wary to be on it and not rusty when we do return after so long off. I love that Leicester beat Liverpool last night after playing only 2 days before yet Liverpool had a long break, I dare Klopp to moan about too many matches now 😜
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 29, 2021 8:01:56 GMT
Simple really, we're asking for games to be called off whereas the other clubs seemed content to play, that suggests to me we've got less than the required 14 fit players whereas the others have got sufficient players. Some clubs might not have not lost any players to COVID. It seems odd to me posters still want us to play when we don't have enough fit players, as what enjoyment will they get from us losing even if they are desperate to watch Rovers play. I'm not saying I want us to play. I'm saying there's logic to me in saying to the entire football pyramid, if you have enough players in your squad to play, including U21's, then every team should be able to play. I don't know whether we have enough or not, but my main point stems from those at the top end of the game complaining they don't have enough players which is patently false, as they have squads of dozens of players. And by extension, as I don't like to be outright biased towards my own club simply because I support them as that would render my argument invalid, I would make every club in the football league follow the same criteria. Some clubs still might not be able to play, which would be fair enough in my view. I don't want us to have an unfair disadvantage, but if every club plays by the same set of rules, there wouldn't be an unfair disadvantage. You do realize that, unlike a thigh strain, that Covid is contagious right? It also has a gestation period when it can be passed on but a carrier can be asymptomatic. If you have covid in the squad then there is a chance someone may have it but will play. This not only exposes our own squad to risk, but also the opposition team and officials. I assume this is why the league are allowing suspensions and not forcing teams to play. Imagine if we played half the first team squad who had been exposed to players with Covid and the rest made up of kids and we passed covid on to a full strength Crawley side. It won't be long before someone gets taken to court.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 8:21:25 GMT
Had a big discussion about this last night on Twitter.
I think the authorities are leaving themselves open to clubs taking the water by allowing them to count injuries as well as covid cases to get games called off.
For me games should only be called off if covid is leaving you with less than the 14 players required, not covid and injuries as that can easily be manipulated.
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Post by kampucheagas on Dec 29, 2021 8:30:15 GMT
Had a big discussion about this last night on Twitter. I think the authorities are leaving themselves open to clubs taking the P?!s by allowing them to count injuries as well as covid cases to get games called off. For me games should only be called off if covid is leaving you with less than the 14 players required, not covid and injuries as that can easily be manipulated. I’m not so sure Think managers would rather play if they could A fixture congestion in a league which already plays 46 league games will take its toll in other ways As someone pointed out, didn’t do Leicester any harm last night!! UTG
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 8:33:57 GMT
Had a big discussion about this last night on Twitter. I think the authorities are leaving themselves open to clubs taking the P?!s by allowing them to count injuries as well as covid cases to get games called off. For me games should only be called off if covid is leaving you with less than the 14 players required, not covid and injuries as that can easily be manipulated. I’m not so sure Think managers would rather play if they could A fixture congestion in a league which already plays 46 league games will take its toll in other ways As someone pointed out, didn’t do Leicester any harm last night!! UTG I don’t think so at all, if you’ve got a few key players out for a couple of weeks you’d surely want it postponed? We literally waterlogged our own pitch in 2007 to avoid playing Stockport 😂
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