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Post by stapletongas on Feb 6, 2022 9:01:11 GMT
Adding to issues above, it's not BRSC's number to give away. Early 2000's it was given to the fans by the club. A majority of the fanbase are not part of the SC. Why do the SC think it's theirs to give away?
The fans are the 12th man, not a player.
Disgraceful behaviour by the SC and a grossly inaccurate assumption of position on behalf of the SC, a mere minority of Bristol Rovers fanbase. Who do they think they are?
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 6, 2022 9:17:30 GMT
Meh, I can see all sides to this argument, but what a storm in a teacup.
If we were that passionate about the 12 number, why haven’t we got flags and signs up over the blackthorn using it? I’ve not seen any.
How many that buy replica shirts have the 12 put on the back? I haven’t seen one.
Should the SC have done it? Well, perhaps they could own a number themselves and then use it as a sponsorship model for a player every year where the fans could vote who gets the number, whether that’s 12 or another number but I’m not sure there was any intentional disrespect here.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 6, 2022 9:20:47 GMT
Adding to issues above, it's not BRSC's number to give away. Early 2000's it was given to the fans by the club. A majority of the fanbase are not part of the SC. Why do the SC think it's theirs to give away? The fans are the 12th man, not a player. Disgraceful behaviour by the SC and a grossly inaccurate assumption of position on behalf of the SC, a mere minority of Bristol Rovers fanbase. Who do they think they are? Surely the club have given the player the number 12 shirt and then the supporters club have sponsored the player / number ? They probably got in quick because they realised it would be contentious to some people . Meanwhile us normal Gasheads know it’s just a load of nonsense that in the real world means bugger all . 😀
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Post by mftc on Feb 6, 2022 9:28:08 GMT
Earlier in the season, Wael would not speak to the SC and the SC would not pass excess money on to the club ( ie 50/50 was being paid). TBH they both acted like petulant children.
The fact that the FC and SC are coming together to raise funds for the benefit of the club surely has to be a good thing.
Perhaps if more people volunteered to help the SC help the FC, then more people would join the SC. There are plenty on here who seem to have hours and hours spare time to give their opinions, but not 30 minutes before a game on a Saturday to speak to the committee members or offer to help.
Rather than boring old mud slinging of previous regimes, why not praise the steady changes Dave Thomas and the other volunteers have made in a few months.
I am sure the SC membership in the early days at the Mem was around 20-25%. Hopefully more fans joining will give the fans representatives a bigger voice to get the FC to provide better service to the fans (more quid a kid type offers subsidiaries for away travel, meet the players events, selected happy hours in the bars etc). These would help build a rapport with the players, club and fans and hopefully snowball into better times for us all.
If E Anderson has been given the shirt no 12 surely this is a club decision, so if the SC played on the "fans being no 12" and sponsored him and got publicity out of it, does it really matter about the actual number?
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Post by rememberhalifax on Feb 6, 2022 9:31:50 GMT
Well that didn't take long did it! after making great strides to wipe the slate clean and give the S/C a fresh new start they find a way to upset some fans! I can't say i am that bothered about the issue though i believe that the S/C knowing the history of the shirt could have sounded out the fan base to gauge the reaction both on sponsoring the shirt and the player to wear it, surprised the new S/C regime did not realise there may be an adverse reaction.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 6, 2022 9:35:07 GMT
Seriously…. Why ? I honestly can’t believe anyone would or could be upset by such an inconsequential thing . For me it’s tradition, been pretty as long as I remember that number 12 is retired for the gasheads. To then give it away mid season when there must be ~70 numbers to choose from doesn’t sit well with me. They know it’s for us, why give it away? Like G&E said, why not just lose the quarters while we’re at it? It’s just a colour. Why not change the badge? It’s just a picture. For me, number 12 is our identity at the club and we’ve thrown it away for a loan player. Tradition ? It’s only been 19 years as you say. To technically be traditional it has to be at least 50 years. ( This is made up nonsense as well 😘)
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Feb 6, 2022 9:40:22 GMT
We don't know who made the decision to give EA the number 12 shirt. Maybe that was the number he requested? No doubt the Post will pick the story up from here, and we'll get some background info during the week.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 6, 2022 9:40:36 GMT
Meh, I can see all sides to this argument, but what a storm in a teacup. If we were that passionate about the 12 number, why haven’t we got flags and signs up over the blackthorn using it? I’ve not seen any. How many that buy replica shirts have the 12 put on the back? I haven’t seen one. Should the SC have done it? Well, perhaps they could own a number themselves and then use it as a sponsorship model for a player every year where the fans could vote who gets the number, whether that’s 12 or another number but I’m not sure there was any intentional disrespect here. I attend games home & away, purchase iFollow, buy a short every year and buy merchandise throughout the year - but because I didn’t pay to put a number 12 on the back of my shirt, the club don’t want to recognise gasheads anymore as the 12th man and will give it away. Well f**k ‘em, I won’t be purchasing merchandise anymore then. Tempted to not even go tbh. There’s already a disconnect between the club and fans - especially with our current manager. What a stupid thing to do to alienate more people.
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Post by Jomo on Feb 6, 2022 9:46:01 GMT
Personally I'm not bothered, but evidently several on here are, which does make it an issue. Not a big one granted, but still an issue.
It does seem like a PR blunder to me, as regardless of whether any one Gashead cares that much, the number 12 shirt was given to the Gasheads as a lasting small way for the club to honour it's fans. To now give it to a loan player is just a bit daft, as it was bound to raise questions.
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Post by bridgwatergas on Feb 6, 2022 9:46:56 GMT
Meh, I can see all sides to this argument, but what a storm in a teacup. If we were that passionate about the 12 number, why haven’t we got flags and signs up over the blackthorn using it? I’ve not seen any. How many that buy replica shirts have the 12 put on the back? I haven’t seen one. Should the SC have done it? Well, perhaps they could own a number themselves and then use it as a sponsorship model for a player every year where the fans could vote who gets the number, whether that’s 12 or another number but I’m not sure there was any intentional disrespect here. I attend games home & away, purchase iFollow, buy a short every year and buy merchandise throughout the year - but because I didn’t pay to put a number 12 on the back of my shirt, the club don’t want to recognise gasheads anymore as the 12th man and will give it away. Well f**k ‘em, I won’t be purchasing merchandise anymore then. Tempted to not even go tbh. There’s already a disconnect between the club and fans - especially with our current manager. What a stupid thing to do to alienate more people. Wow not to attend because of a shirt number I have read some things on here but that takes the biscuit. And what disconnect is that as for me and many others they feel more connected to the club and players than they have for many a year.
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Post by onefindunford on Feb 6, 2022 9:48:23 GMT
I don’t get the logic behind the decision.
Are they saying that the fans aren’t the 12th man for the rest of the season?
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Feb 6, 2022 9:52:53 GMT
Meh, I can see all sides to this argument, but what a storm in a teacup. If we were that passionate about the 12 number, why haven’t we got flags and signs up over the blackthorn using it? I’ve not seen any. How many that buy replica shirts have the 12 put on the back? I haven’t seen one. Should the SC have done it? Well, perhaps they could own a number themselves and then use it as a sponsorship model for a player every year where the fans could vote who gets the number, whether that’s 12 or another number but I’m not sure there was any intentional disrespect here. I attend games home & away, purchase iFollow, buy a short every year and buy merchandise throughout the year - but because I didn’t pay to put a number 12 on the back of my shirt, the club don’t want to recognise gasheads anymore as the 12th man and will give it away. Well f**k ‘em, I won’t be purchasing merchandise anymore then. Tempted to not even go tbh. There’s already a disconnect between the club and fans - especially with our current manager. What a stupid thing to do to alienate more people. Thank God it wasn't something important or you may have done something even more rediculous
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Post by Gassy on Feb 6, 2022 9:57:35 GMT
I attend games home & away, purchase iFollow, buy a short every year and buy merchandise throughout the year - but because I didn’t pay to put a number 12 on the back of my shirt, the club don’t want to recognise gasheads anymore as the 12th man and will give it away. Well f**k ‘em, I won’t be purchasing merchandise anymore then. Tempted to not even go tbh. There’s already a disconnect between the club and fans - especially with our current manager. What a stupid thing to do to alienate more people. Wow not to attend because of a shirt number I have read some things on here but that takes the biscuit. And what disconnect is that as for me and many others they feel more connected to the club and players than they have for many a year. Why does it take the biscuit? Because it’s something you can’t understand, or because it’s something I’m really passionate about and I shouldn’t have the right to exert my opinion?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 6, 2022 10:05:40 GMT
I'm not overly bothered but it does seem like a bit of an unnecessary own goal.
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Post by casey12a on Feb 6, 2022 10:05:45 GMT
You can tell we're in good form when this is what people moan about.
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Post by mftc on Feb 6, 2022 10:08:01 GMT
I heard the club are going to change E Anderson's no to 13 to be less controversial, but they are going to announce it next Friday.
Some bloke called Jason is coming over from America to do some publicity.he has his own face mask as well.
Apparently the Newcastle loanee is so mad about all this he is gonna get his Aussie relative who sang about Kylie and Jason's wedding to come over. Now he is angry.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 6, 2022 10:11:32 GMT
You can tell we're in good form when this is what people moan about. Remember the good old days when as a country we moaned about traffic cones ? John Major even setup a traffic cones hotline ☎️. I miss those days 😦
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Post by justin blue on Feb 6, 2022 10:13:13 GMT
The twelfth man is supposed to be the embodiment of the supporters on the pitch as an extra player and surely that will continue whatever numbers are on the players backs.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 6, 2022 10:13:54 GMT
I’m hearing it was just a cock up in the shirt printing room . He’s actually got number 21 .
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Post by stapletongas on Feb 6, 2022 10:20:54 GMT
Adding to issues above, it's not BRSC's number to give away. Early 2000's it was given to the fans by the club. A majority of the fanbase are not part of the SC. Why do the SC think it's theirs to give away? The fans are the 12th man, not a player. Disgraceful behaviour by the SC and a grossly inaccurate assumption of position on behalf of the SC, a mere minority of Bristol Rovers fanbase. Who do they think they are? Surely the club have given the player the number 12 shirt and then the supporters club have sponsored the player / number ? They probably got in quick because they realised it would be contentious to some people . Meanwhile us normal Gasheads know it’s just a load of nonsense that in the real world means bugger all . 😀 I was there when it was all negotiated. The idea was it would be great to see loads of fans turning up with the no 12 on their backs. I suppose it never quite caught on in the numbers hoped. The concept is now truly dead.
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