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Post by canberragas69 on May 12, 2022 9:17:20 GMT
Since I appear in the mood to write unpopular posts, I thought I'd air my views on Garner.
IMO he has done a great job at Swindon. At the strat of the season they were favourites for relegation, with very limited resources.Em they were the best team I saw this year by quite a way. Aparently, but I stand to be corrected, they lost some of their loan players and slumped quite badly. However, at the end they same with a strong run again, after falling out of contention.
While we couldn't keep Garner, given his poor record with us, I wish him well and expect him to rise up the leagues. I hope Vale are promoted, 'cos of DC, but otherwise Swindon for me.
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Post by SleepyGas on May 12, 2022 10:02:42 GMT
Yeah I said similar on another thread. Definitely rooting for DC's Port Vale, but if Swindon beat them in the semis then I hope they go on to win at Wembley too.
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Post by percy on May 12, 2022 10:15:43 GMT
Cant agree about wanting Swindon to go up, but with you on the rest of it. Incredible job, especially to go again when they looked to have blown it (who was it that kept saying they would blow it - gone quiet now!)
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Post by playtowin on May 12, 2022 10:32:58 GMT
Garner joined a club that had new owners. So whilst relegation was bad the optimism amongst the fans was high. The opportunity to bring in players was there which may not have been the case had the ownership not been resolved. He and the pkayers had the feel hood factor. They also had the bonus of playing Scunthorpe on day one.
The team still play garnerball and ive seen plenty of moans about that. Their success is most built upon Mckirdy . His goals and assists and unpredictable nature. When he was out of the team they struggled to get points on the board.
Mckirdy will most likely go in the summer .
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Post by axegas on May 12, 2022 10:41:35 GMT
Garner joined a club that had new owners. So whilst relegation was bad the optimism amongst the fans was high. The opportunity to bring in players was there which may not have been the case had the ownership not been resolved. He and the pkayers had the feel hood factor. They also had the bonus of playing Scunthorpe on day one. The team still play garnerball and ive seen plenty of moans about that. Their success is most built upon Mckirdy . His goals and assists and unpredictable nature. When he was out of the team they struggled to get points on the board. Mckirdy will most likely go in the summer . It’s all well and good saying without McKirdy they wouldn’t be where they are, but without Anthony Evans we wouldn’t be where we are either. Never get why football fans employ that argument.
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Post by olskooltoteender on May 12, 2022 10:49:55 GMT
Garner joined a club that had new owners. So whilst relegation was bad the optimism amongst the fans was high. The opportunity to bring in players was there which may not have been the case had the ownership not been resolved. He and the pkayers had the feel hood factor. They also had the bonus of playing Scunthorpe on day one. The team still play garnerball and ive seen plenty of moans about that. Their success is most built upon Mckirdy . His goals and assists and unpredictable nature. When he was out of the team they struggled to get points on the board. Mckirdy will most likely go in the summer . It’s all well and good saying without McKirdy they wouldn’t be where they are, but without Anthony Evans we wouldn’t be where we are either. Never get why football fans employ that argument. I think they were trying to say that Swindon’s team is built solely around McKirdy, where as ours isn’t built just around Evans.
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Post by axegas on May 12, 2022 11:05:31 GMT
It’s all well and good saying without McKirdy they wouldn’t be where they are, but without Anthony Evans we wouldn’t be where we are either. Never get why football fans employ that argument. I think they were trying to say that Swindon’s team is built solely around McKirdy, where as ours isn’t built just around Evans. I feel like we are fairly built around Evans though, remember us struggling to some degree at Carlisle and Tranmere recently for creativity without his presence in the side. We have other great players though for sure. Only watched Swindon in their two games against us so couldn’t tell you if it is the same for them, but fair enough if Playtowin has.
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Post by playtowin on May 12, 2022 11:36:54 GMT
Garner joined a club that had new owners. So whilst relegation was bad the optimism amongst the fans was high. The opportunity to bring in players was there which may not have been the case had the ownership not been resolved. He and the pkayers had the feel hood factor. They also had the bonus of playing Scunthorpe on day one. The team still play garnerball and ive seen plenty of moans about that. Their success is most built upon Mckirdy . His goals and assists and unpredictable nature. When he was out of the team they struggled to get points on the board. Mckirdy will most likely go in the summer . It’s all well and good saying without McKirdy they wouldn’t be where they are, but without Anthony Evans we wouldn’t be where we are either. Never get why football fans employ that argument. Nah... Nicholson , Thomas , E Anderson ,H Anderson ,Collins and Finley ensured we were not a one man team. Actual results tend to indicate how reliant on one player a team is. Thats not to say other players are not important. Sometimes one player can be the difference between success and mediocrity. Swindon looked destined to 10th or 11th spot before mcKirdy came back to the team.
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Post by axegas on May 12, 2022 11:43:42 GMT
It’s all well and good saying without McKirdy they wouldn’t be where they are, but without Anthony Evans we wouldn’t be where we are either. Never get why football fans employ that argument. Nah... Nicholson , Thomas , E Anderson ,H Anderson ,Collins and Finley ensured we were not a one man team. Actual results tend to indicate how reliant on one player a team is. Thats not to say other players are not important. Sometimes one player can be the difference between success and mediocrity. Swindon looked destined to 10th or 11th spot before mcKirdy came back to the team. I didn’t say we were a one man team. I said two things, firstly we wouldn’t be in the position we are today without Evans contributions in the same manner that Swindon wouldn’t be without McKirdy. Seeing as the gap between us and finishing outside of the playoffs was only 4 points this year, I genuinely think without Evans we would have finished outside of it this year, but we had him so it’s not a fair point. Secondly, we have a lot of good players, but without Evans in the side we struggled a bit more for creativity. So to some degree, our play was centred around Evans with the likes of Collins profiting with his presence in the team. I was at Tranmere away and I watched Carlisle on ifollow when we didn’t have him in the side and we suffered for it. To me it doesn’t make any sense when people go, “oh but without player x, they wouldn’t have been so good” The same vein in which people were saying a few years ago that without JCH, we wouldn’t have escaped relegation under Coughlan. Well we did have him and we deserved our place in League One the following year.
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Post by dudelebowski on May 12, 2022 11:52:14 GMT
Nah... Nicholson , Thomas , E Anderson ,H Anderson ,Collins and Finley ensured we were not a one man team. Actual results tend to indicate how reliant on one player a team is. Thats not to say other players are not important. Sometimes one player can be the difference between success and mediocrity. Swindon looked destined to 10th or 11th spot before mcKirdy came back to the team. I didn’t say we were a one man team. I said two things, firstly we wouldn’t be in the position we are today without Evans contributions in the same manner that Swindon wouldn’t be without McKirdy. Seeing as the gap between us and finishing outside of the playoffs was only 4 points this year, I genuinely think without Evans we would have finished outside of it this year, but we had him so it’s not a fair point. Secondly, we have a lot of good players, but without Evans in the side we struggled a bit more for creativity. So to some degree, our play was centred around Evans with the likes of Collins profiting with his presence in the team. I was at Tranmere away and I watched Carlisle on ifollow when we didn’t have him in the side and we suffered for it. To me it doesn’t make any sense when people go, “oh but without player x, they wouldn’t have been so good” The same vein in which people were saying a few years ago that without JCH, we wouldn’t have escaped relegation under Coughlan. Well we did have him and we deserved our place in League One the following year. We also scaled to the top of League One without him for months.
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 12, 2022 12:01:37 GMT
sh** for us so will always be sh** in my eyes. Even if he ends up managing in the prem.
Ripped apart a successful gas team. I don’t care what anyone says about the sustainability of our form he took us from top of L1, got rid of players who’d put in a shift for us and replaced them with a bunch of wet lettuces with a style of play that was fanciful and without impact where it matters.
To top it all off he manages Swindon - probably our biggest rival this season.
I hope they get demolished by Port Vale and we never have to talk about him again.
P.S some were revelling about him being above us in the league earlier in the season. That didn’t last. Let’s see where he is in two seasons time.
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Post by baggins on May 12, 2022 12:26:51 GMT
Backing Swindon? Won't get any of that from me thank you very much.
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Post by kylegas on May 12, 2022 12:32:50 GMT
Garner joined a club that had new owners. So whilst relegation was bad the optimism amongst the fans was high. The opportunity to bring in players was there which may not have been the case had the ownership not been resolved. He and the pkayers had the feel hood factor. They also had the bonus of playing Scunthorpe on day one. The team still play garnerball and ive seen plenty of moans about that. Their success is most built upon Mckirdy . His goals and assists and unpredictable nature. When he was out of the team they struggled to get points on the board. Mckirdy will most likely go in the summer . It’s all well and good saying without McKirdy they wouldn’t be where they are, but without Anthony Evans we wouldn’t be where we are either. Never get why football fans employ that argument. It’s kind of like saying “you only won cuz you scored goals” lol
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Post by Jomo on May 12, 2022 12:43:09 GMT
sh** for us so will always be sh** in my eyes. Even if he ends up managing in the prem. Ripped apart a successful gas team. I don’t care what anyone says about the sustainability of our form he took us from top of L1, got rid of players who’d put in a shift for us and replaced them with a bunch of wet lettuces with a style of play that was fanciful and without impact where it matters. To top it all off he manages Swindon - probably our biggest rival this season. I hope they get demolished by Port Vale and we never have to talk about him again. P.S some were revelling about him being above us in the league earlier in the season. That didn’t last. Let’s see where he is in two seasons time. Yeah but do you like him or not?
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Post by baggins on May 12, 2022 12:54:25 GMT
sh** for us so will always be sh** in my eyes. Even if he ends up managing in the prem. Ripped apart a successful gas team. I don’t care what anyone says about the sustainability of our form he took us from top of L1, got rid of players who’d put in a shift for us and replaced them with a bunch of wet lettuces with a style of play that was fanciful and without impact where it matters. To top it all off he manages Swindon - probably our biggest rival this season. I hope they get demolished by Port Vale and we never have to talk about him again. P.S some were revelling about him being above us in the league earlier in the season. That didn’t last. Let’s see where he is in two seasons time. 2 Seasons time? They don't go up he'll be sacked before June starts.
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 12, 2022 13:20:56 GMT
As i said in the 'that's enough, I'm done thread' I think JB was unfair to BG who I believe suffered from a flawed recruitment policy, has done well at a basket case of a club.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 12, 2022 14:26:29 GMT
It’s all well and good saying without McKirdy they wouldn’t be where they are, but without Anthony Evans we wouldn’t be where we are either. Never get why football fans employ that argument. I think they were trying to say that Swindon’s team is built solely around McKirdy, where as ours isn’t built just around Evans. Credit to McKirdy though. Comes across as a bit of a cock but he signed a new deal midway through the season when he had already scored a lot of goals, and could have left for someone in the summer with a nice signing on fee
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Post by percy on May 12, 2022 14:32:09 GMT
I think they were trying to say that Swindon’s team is built solely around McKirdy, where as ours isn’t built just around Evans. Credit to McKirdy though. Comes across as a bit of a cock but he signed a new deal midway through the season when he had already scored a lot of goals, and could have left for someone in the summer with a nice signing on fee Unless it has a £300K release clause tho
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 12, 2022 14:32:56 GMT
Credit to McKirdy though. Comes across as a bit of a cock but he signed a new deal midway through the season when he had already scored a lot of goals, and could have left for someone in the summer with a nice signing on fee Unless it has a £300K release clause tho Still £300k more than we will get for Evans
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Post by percy on May 12, 2022 14:37:35 GMT
Unless it has a £300K release clause tho Still £300k more than we will get for Evans True! Be very surprised if he doesn't sign. Though I guess if a Champ club comes in with a bigger wage he may not be able to say no.
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