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Post by gashead79 on May 14, 2022 15:15:24 GMT
These are the City population numbers not the greater areas. Not my figures national census figures off Google. Bristol is the 10th most populous city in the UK and the 8th largest by land area. I'm not disagreeing with the national census figures, but they are dubious. Leeds was similar to Bristol about 5 years ago, then all of a sudden shot up to nearky 800k, because they included a lot of the towns within a 10 mile radius onto the actual City's figures. A bit like Bristol adding Bath, Yate, Thornbury etc to our population. Or even Kingswood, Staple Hill, Mangotsfield, Downend, Patchway, Longwell Green, Hanham... Bristol is about 450k isn't it? Really tough to get accuracy on this topic. Even Avon still appears on plenty of dropdowns!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2022 15:17:17 GMT
Avon calling!
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Post by socrates on May 14, 2022 15:24:43 GMT
But don’t get me wrong it would be great if we had a better new stadium ( with safe standing) I hate sitting and we were playing in the championship and not losing tens of millions every season.
But that’s cloud cuckoo land.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 14, 2022 16:26:42 GMT
By population the ten biggest cities in the UK are. London Birmingham Leeds Glasgow Sheffield Bradford Liverpool Edinburgh Manchester Bristol. Bristol is bigger than Bradford and Edinburgh. I think it's bigger than Manchester as well, pretty sure they include Salfords population with Manchesters Bristol bigger than Manchester, I'd love to see some stats to back that up! Although it doesn't really matter how big Bristol is, it's how many fans we can get though the turnstiles which matters. At the moment probably 15K is the maximum on a regular basis, if we had a decent stadium.
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Post by gashead79 on May 14, 2022 16:52:57 GMT
Bristol is bigger than Bradford and Edinburgh. I think it's bigger than Manchester as well, pretty sure they include Salfords population with Manchesters Bristol bigger than Manchester, I'd love to see some stats to back that up! Although it doesn't really matter how big Bristol is, it's how many fans we can get though the turnstiles which matters. At the moment probably 15K is the maximum on a regular basis, if we had a decent stadium. Marketing and family offers would help. Bradford do their amazing offer and I don't know why we wouldn't get u11s in for next to free. For a club that can muster 35-45k interested people for a major final, we should have the ability to sell STs or bundles to a fair % of that figure.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 14, 2022 17:25:32 GMT
Bristol bigger than Manchester, I'd love to see some stats to back that up! Although it doesn't really matter how big Bristol is, it's how many fans we can get though the turnstiles which matters. At the moment probably 15K is the maximum on a regular basis, if we had a decent stadium. Marketing and family offers would help. Bradford do their amazing offer and I don't know why we wouldn't get u11s in for next to free. For a club that can muster 35-45k interested people for a major final, we should have the ability to sell STs or bundles to a fair % of that figure. Can't really do that with a restricted capacity.
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Post by bidefordgas on May 14, 2022 17:34:52 GMT
Bristol is bigger than Bradford and Edinburgh. I think it's bigger than Manchester as well, pretty sure they include Salfords population with Manchesters Bristol bigger than Manchester, I'd love to see some stats to back that up! Although it doesn't really matter how big Bristol is, it's how many fans we can get though the turnstiles which matters. At the moment probably 15K is the maximum on a regular basis, if we had a decent stadium. 2021 population figures Manchester 586k Bristol 693k. The likes of Salford not counted as it has city status now.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 14, 2022 18:00:44 GMT
You appear to be comparing Bristol Metropolitan (whatever that is) with Manchester city's stats, you're deluded if you think Bristol city is larger than Manchester city (both with small c's), regardless what's the city population got to do with attendances, Rovers have always attracted fans from well outside the city boundaries.
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Post by playtowin on May 14, 2022 19:25:19 GMT
Ultimately infrastructure determines where you can progress to, Luton are an exception and they have a new stadium two years down the road anyway. The fact remains that city have a premiership ready stadium and are only one season away from achieving it, we have a stadium that is one of the worst in the entire league which means like last time we will hit a brick wall. The fruit market is a non starter so unless wael bites the bullet on a full scale mem redevelopment this isn't going to change within the next 5 years. City have had a top flight capable stadium since the day they formed....1982. That one season away has lasted 40 years since then.
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Post by gasheadmichal on May 14, 2022 19:55:49 GMT
Also Bournemouth have done it in a stadium the same size as The Mem. Plus Brentford were also top end of Championship at Griffin Park Bournemouth have got 11300 seats. We've got about 38. Their stadium is miles better than ours. Our ground is awful, especially for away fans. It's an embarrassment and really holds us back. Full credit to our supporters for putting up with it tbh because I don't, have hardly been for the last 5 years. Our Mem is unique and I love it.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 14, 2022 20:05:29 GMT
Bournemouth have got 11300 seats. We've got about 38. Their stadium is miles better than ours. Our ground is awful, especially for away fans. It's an embarrassment and really holds us back. Full credit to our supporters for putting up with it tbh because I don't, have hardly been for the last 5 years. Our Mem is unique and I love it. Unique is one word for it!
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Post by aghast on May 14, 2022 20:11:06 GMT
What if we got promoted next season and the teds got relegated?
For 2023-24 we'd be a division above them, but would we be ahead of them as a club? Maybe, in that way, but not in most others.
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Post by gashead79 on May 14, 2022 20:32:10 GMT
Bristol bigger than Manchester, I'd love to see some stats to back that up! Although it doesn't really matter how big Bristol is, it's how many fans we can get though the turnstiles which matters. At the moment probably 15K is the maximum on a regular basis, if we had a decent stadium. 2021 population figures Manchester 586k Bristol 693k. The likes of Salford not counted as it has city status now. I'm certain Bristol pop is around 450k Dave. Like I said earlier, it's difficult because there's all sorts of data which includes the county's, the greater area, the BS postcodes etc. The city itself is under 500k for sure. It bliats to about 750k with all the add ons I think but I've seen quotes of more than that.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 14, 2022 20:42:06 GMT
What if we got promoted next season and the teds got relegated? For 2023-24 we'd be a division above them, but would we be ahead of them as a club? Maybe, in that way, but not in most others. I think if we actually did get our act together off the field and kept the momentum on it we would stand a chance of achieving what they have failed to a la Brentford. Unfortunately there seems to be little movement on dragging our not fit for purpose facilities into anything near the modern age
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Post by bidefordgas on May 14, 2022 20:44:07 GMT
2021 population figures Manchester 586k Bristol 693k. The likes of Salford not counted as it has city status now. I'm certain Bristol pop is around 450k Dave. Like I said earlier, it's difficult because there's all sorts of data which includes the county's, the greater area, the BS postcodes etc. The city itself is under 500k for sure. It bliats to about 750k with all the add ons I think but I've seen quotes of more than that. All the figures I have quoted are what they call metro areas for all cities.
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Post by gashead79 on May 14, 2022 23:11:41 GMT
I'm certain Bristol pop is around 450k Dave. Like I said earlier, it's difficult because there's all sorts of data which includes the county's, the greater area, the BS postcodes etc. The city itself is under 500k for sure. It bliats to about 750k with all the add ons I think but I've seen quotes of more than that. All the figures I have quoted are what they call metro areas for all cities. Ah yeah. Not sure if anybody knows what that means in Bristol... We haven't got a metro. In all seriousness, I've just googled 'bristol metro population' and the first half dozen headlines are different so..! Also, nobody here has ever said they live in a metropolitan district/suburb of Bristol.
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Post by Gastafari on May 15, 2022 2:46:17 GMT
Bristol is bigger than Bradford and Edinburgh. I think it's bigger than Manchester as well, pretty sure they include Salfords population with Manchesters Bristol bigger than Manchester, I'd love to see some stats to back that up! Although it doesn't really matter how big Bristol is, it's how many fans we can get though the turnstiles which matters. At the moment probably 15K is the maximum on a regular basis, if we had a decent stadium. Bristol is technically bigger than Manchester. Trafford for example where Old Trafford Football and Cricket grounds are is actually a Borough which has a population of circa 250k on its own, then you have Salford, which is also a stones throw from Old Trafford, i.e Salford Quays where the BBC now has its headquarters which is its own City(but also a Borough) also has a population of over circa 230k as well The actual city of Manchester itself has a population of just over 350k. Trafford and Salford are both similar to Croydon, Croydon is classed as a town, it's almost as big as Bristol in its own right, it has a town status, but is still also a London Borough, and added onto Londons overall population figures.
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