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Post by gasonthemount on May 14, 2022 18:06:41 GMT
Having nothing to do last night I decided to count the dots on the ground plan for season tickets. Including the 18 Executive boxes I arrived at a total capacity of 10,215. I know the club intend to add an additional step at the front of the Thatchers End which should add approx. another 200. Also the above figure takes account of the removal of the old family stand but not sure about the sterile area between home and away fans in the East terrace. Not sure if the club is looking at any additional changes at the front of the East and West terraces similar to the Thatchers End. The only relatively low cost option to increase capacity further would be to extend the South Stand, as others have mentioned. Thinking caps on guys and girls to see if there are any other sensible low cost options. Even a few hundred extra will make a difference. When I last looked there were less than 50 seats left in the South West stand. East and West stands sold out.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 14, 2022 19:02:15 GMT
Two solid proper temporary stands (not tents!) behind the open east terraces. Reckon that could add 1000 seats.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on May 14, 2022 20:23:22 GMT
Two solid proper temporary stands (not tents!) behind the open east terraces. Reckon that could add 1000 seats. The stand that is being taken down on the East Terrace was originally meant to be on the flat area behind but the sight lines meant it had to be put on the actual terrace. Let’s forget about moving to a new fantasy stadium and just make the Mem half decent, starting with a total rebuild on the East side.
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Post by oldmarket65 on May 14, 2022 21:27:04 GMT
Having nothing to do last night I decided to count the dots on the ground plan for season tickets. Including the 18 Executive boxes I arrived at a total capacity of 10,215. I know the club intend to add an additional step at the front of the Thatchers End which should add approx. another 200. Also the above figure takes account of the removal of the old family stand but not sure about the sterile area between home and away fans in the East terrace. Not sure if the club is looking at any additional changes at the front of the East and West terraces similar to the Thatchers End. The only relatively low cost option to increase capacity further would be to extend the South Stand, as others have mentioned. Thinking caps on guys and girls to see if there are any other sensible low cost options. Even a few hundred extra will make a difference. When I last looked there were less than 50 seats left in the South West stand. East and West stands sold out. Did this include the allocated areas for away fans ?. I think the club said on bigger games away fans will get both terrace and South stand . I didn't think S.Ts were on sale for East terrace or South stand .
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 14, 2022 21:33:55 GMT
Two solid proper temporary stands (not tents!) behind the open east terraces. Reckon that could add 1000 seats. The stand that is being taken down on the East Terrace was originally meant to be on the flat area behind but the sight lines meant it had to be put on the actual terrace. Let’s forget about moving to a new fantasy stadium and just make the Mem half decent, starting with a total rebuild on the East side. I am starting to come round to this, although would prefer a complete rebuild. If we a) moved the pitch towards the thatchers I'm sure we could construct a permanent 2500 capacity stand at the south end split between home and away fans. Complete rebuild of east side with new 7-8000 capacity stand with bars boxes etc. This would push the capacity into the 15-16 area
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Post by gasonthemount on May 14, 2022 21:53:16 GMT
My calculations includes what used to be the away terrace. I thought only the South Stand will be allocated in full to away fans. If only part of South Stand required for away fans, then we will have seats to sell to home fans. This split will be determined on a match by match basis.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 14, 2022 22:10:09 GMT
Ive seen quite a few gasheads that could account for a few of those dots each mind...
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Post by richmace on May 15, 2022 6:57:21 GMT
The stand that is being taken down on the East Terrace was originally meant to be on the flat area behind but the sight lines meant it had to be put on the actual terrace. Let’s forget about moving to a new fantasy stadium and just make the Mem half decent, starting with a total rebuild on the East side. I am starting to come round to this, although would prefer a complete rebuild. If we a) moved the pitch towards the thatchers I'm sure we could construct a permanent 2500 capacity stand at the south end split between home and away fans. Complete rebuild of east side with new 7-8000 capacity stand with bars boxes etc. This would push the capacity into the 15-16 area Agree 100% with this.
Also, don't forget you could build a new stand behind the North Terrace as well (incorporating the bar) as well.
There is scope to build decent stands on the North, East and South sides.
I would probably build a permanent all seater South Stand first (after moving the pitch), then replace the East stand & terraces with a full length all seater stand.
Last would be the North Terrace. Build a big stand with safe standing towards the bottom.
In an ideal world, you would finally build a full length West stand.
For the most capacity, you would need to lose the car park and rotate the pitch and use the whole Mem site. An 18.5K all seater capacity design exists for the Mem site.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on May 15, 2022 7:10:15 GMT
I am starting to come round to this, although would prefer a complete rebuild. If we a) moved the pitch towards the thatchers I'm sure we could construct a permanent 2500 capacity stand at the south end split between home and away fans. Complete rebuild of east side with new 7-8000 capacity stand with bars boxes etc. This would push the capacity into the 15-16 area Agree 100% with this.
Also, don't forget you could build a new stand behind the North Terrace as well (incorporating the bar) as well.
There is scope to build decent stands on the North, East and South sides.
I would probably build a permanent all seater South Stand first (after moving the pitch), then replace the East stand & terraces with a full length all seater stand.
Last would be the North Terrace. Build a big stand with safe standing towards the bottom.
In an ideal world, you would finally build a full length West stand.
For the most capacity, you would need to lose the car park and rotate the pitch and use the whole Mem site. An 18.5K all seater capacity design exists for the Mem site.
The 18.5k design did not involve rotating the pitch either and there were massive student accommodation blocks attached. There is easily potential for a 20k capacity on the current site and still retain a decent size car park.
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Post by bidefordgas on May 15, 2022 7:17:49 GMT
All well and good talking about rebuilding the Mem but not one person mentioning the elephant in the room Location. Parking anywhere near is a nightmare in the surrounding areas even with an 8k crowd, let alone 16k. The local bus system just about copes now but certainly could not with vastly increased numbers. Park and ride people say, imagine the traffic chaos then especially at the end of games where the A38, Filton ave are choked now. This is the main problem and needs to be overcome. Enlarging the stadium is the easy part and the reason we have not done so is because of one thing, Location.
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on May 15, 2022 7:23:52 GMT
Sure this has been asked before but can’t remember ? Any reason we can’t do something under scoreboard? Extra terrace?
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Post by Feeling The Blues on May 15, 2022 7:33:07 GMT
All well and good talking about rebuilding the Mem but not one person mentioning the elephant in the room Location. Parking anywhere near is a nightmare in the surrounding areas even with an 8k crowd, let alone 16k. The local bus system just about copes now but certainly could not with vastly increased numbers. Park and ride people say, imagine the traffic chaos then especially at the end of games where the A38, Filton ave are choked now. This is the main problem and needs to be overcome. Enlarging the stadium is the easy part and the reason we have not done so is because of one thing, Location. Parking is not that bad compared to most other stadiums in fact it’s better than most because there is no residents only parking zone. A park and ride could also be introduced from somewhere like Aztec or dare I mention UWE!
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Post by gashead79 on May 15, 2022 7:38:44 GMT
The stand that is being taken down on the East Terrace was originally meant to be on the flat area behind but the sight lines meant it had to be put on the actual terrace. Let’s forget about moving to a new fantasy stadium and just make the Mem half decent, starting with a total rebuild on the East side. I am starting to come round to this, although would prefer a complete rebuild. If we a) moved the pitch towards the thatchers I'm sure we could construct a permanent 2500 capacity stand at the south end split between home and away fans. Complete rebuild of east side with new 7-8000 capacity stand with bars boxes etc. This would push the capacity into the 15-16 area Agree with this. Most importantly, we have to have a place to accommodate 2k away fans in relative comfort. They need to be out of the elements, have a decent place for those with disabilities. They also need to be able to use the toilet and spend money on refreshments and alcohol. We might only get 7k home fans for a game(much depending on how we are doing) but there are a good number of teams in lg1 that can bring 1k+ fans to enjoy our City.
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Post by richmace on May 15, 2022 7:40:07 GMT
Planning permission for the 18.5K stadium was granted, which means that the council considered all aspects of the application, including transport.
Look at Ashton Gate, it has the same parking issues as The Mem, but seems to cope ok.
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Post by gashead79 on May 15, 2022 7:49:39 GMT
All well and good talking about rebuilding the Mem but not one person mentioning the elephant in the room Location. Parking anywhere near is a nightmare in the surrounding areas even with an 8k crowd, let alone 16k. The local bus system just about copes now but certainly could not with vastly increased numbers. Park and ride people say, imagine the traffic chaos then especially at the end of games where the A38, Filton ave are choked now. This is the main problem and needs to be overcome. Enlarging the stadium is the easy part and the reason we have not done so is because of one thing, Location. Parking is and definitely would be an issue. I think that Bristol based supporters would amend their behaviours though tbh. The club would also need to help out whilst public transport would have to step up. Horfield common, Muller Rd playing fields, Horfield leisure centre, plus other options could easily be explored for parking with a shuttle service or short walk. Many residents would also find space to charge people a nominal amount to park up. If Liverpool, Aston Villa and Man United can do it, there's no excuses for us not to be able to get 10k people into a venue in residential north Bristol. If you visit Tottenham, even one of the churches opposite let's people park for a few quid!😆
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Post by gashead79 on May 15, 2022 7:51:11 GMT
Planning permission for the 18.5K stadium was granted, which means that the council considered all aspects of the application, including transport. Look at Ashton Gate, it has the same parking issues as The Mem, but seems to cope ok. It's easier when you have 13 people in one car though, with another 6 pushing it along. That would be 5 cars worth for us.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 15, 2022 8:04:47 GMT
Need to move out of the perpetual cycle of not improving what we have to pursue fantasy land projects that never happen.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 15, 2022 8:04:54 GMT
Surely the issue is who's going to find the £m's to rebuild the Mem, not parking, as Wael's so far shown no interest in doing it?
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Post by Gaswood on May 15, 2022 8:10:24 GMT
For anyone looking at next season in a group or couple that needs to sit, there’s now only 36 seats left in the South West that are adjacent to others. All others there are singles, so get your ST’s in guys and gals or it’ll be too late!
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Post by gashead79 on May 15, 2022 8:29:15 GMT
For anyone looking at next season in a group or couple that needs to sit, there’s now only 36 seats left in the South West that are adjacent to others. All others there are singles, so get your ST’s in guys and gals or it’ll be too late! Is it silly of me to assume that the stadium planner will shift people 1 space here n there to fill the gaps? Or do people specifically choose a seat number? Seems a little inefficient to reduce sales just because people can't be shifted a space left or right?
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