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May 24, 2022 17:49:41 GMT
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Post by peterparker on May 24, 2022 17:49:41 GMT
Not sure of this was posted, but an update on some of the incursions. 16 year old admits pushing Scunny Keeper
Richard Hathaway, 19, from Southmead, was convicted of using words or behaving in a way likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress and entering the playing area after Bristol Rovers’ 0-0 draw with Forest Green Rovers on April 23. Magistrates handed him a five-year football banning order.
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Lee Wells, 38, from Oldland Common, was given a three-year football banning order and ordered to carry out 100 hours of community service for his actions at the same game.
He entered the playing area, was found to be in possession of a firework, flare or pyrotechnic item and convicted of using words or behaving in a way likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress.
In addition, a boy has also been banned from attending football matches after admitting assaulting a Scunthorpe United player in the closing stages of Bristol Rovers’ match at The Memorial Stadium on Saturday, May 7.
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Post by bidefordgas on May 24, 2022 17:57:12 GMT
Good riddance to the three of them!
I for one won't miss them not attending games.
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Post by clockendgas on May 24, 2022 18:07:09 GMT
Five year ban? Back in time for champions league then 😄😁😄😁😄
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Post by aghast on May 24, 2022 18:19:00 GMT
What is wrong with these people? Why can't they behave like normal human beings?
We all have choices in life every day or even every minute. So why choose to shout, swear, intimidate, threaten, punch and kick people? Why do they choose to act like overgrown toddlers? Ages ranging from 16 to 38? And there are plenty of older ones who are just as bad.
I despair.
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May 24, 2022 19:00:07 GMT
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Post by bluegas on May 24, 2022 19:00:07 GMT
As I read this I've heard on the news earlier this evening that a 14 year old has been convicted of stabbing to death a 12 year old girl in Liverpool. Let's be honest, it is only a small minority, but they are there. I've seen it, maybe not get worse (teddy boys and flick knives in my youth!), during my lifetime, but get more accepted and excused.
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Post by trevorgas on May 24, 2022 20:29:38 GMT
What is wrong with these people? Why can't they behave like normal human beings? We all have choices in life every day or even every minute. So why choose to shout, swear, intimidate, threaten, punch and kick people? Why do they choose to act like overgrown toddlers? Ages ranging from 16 to 38? And there are plenty of older ones who are just as bad. I despair. We live in a world of self entitlement ,you can do what you like,when you like and God help anyone who gets in the way |
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May 24, 2022 21:21:19 GMT
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Post by aghast on May 24, 2022 21:21:19 GMT
What is wrong with these people? Why can't they behave like normal human beings? We all have choices in life every day or even every minute. So why choose to shout, swear, intimidate, threaten, punch and kick people? Why do they choose to act like overgrown toddlers? Ages ranging from 16 to 38? And there are plenty of older ones who are just as bad. I despair. We live in a world of self entitlement ,you can do what you like,when you like and God help anyone who gets in the way Sad but true. |
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May 24, 2022 21:25:39 GMT
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Post by gashead79 on May 24, 2022 21:25:39 GMT
We live in a world of self entitlement ,you can do what you like,when you like and God help anyone who gets in the way Sad but true. Its not really true though is it. The world isn't like that. England might be but not China. |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on May 24, 2022 22:05:26 GMT
At the time I thought the ref for the Scunthorpe game overreacted as most people left the pitch quickly after the 7th goal invasion.
If goalie was pushed, shoved or punched he would have been entitled to not carry on which could have ruined our season.
If the plea from Wael & Joey was due to the ref saying to the goalie 'stay on, we'll abandon if anything happens' then that is good refereeing.
Credit to Scunthorpe goalie if this is the case
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Post by Qatar Gas on May 25, 2022 4:41:28 GMT
You have to be really stupid to choose to taunt / attacked opposition players rather than celebrate your own teams success. Especially when the other team had nothing to play for.
I can see why somebody may taunt an opposition player after a play off match for example when both teams were playing for the same thing, even though its still wrong.
I imagine the recent talk about allowing supporters to drink whilst watching games will be shelved now.
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May 25, 2022 5:20:58 GMT
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Post by gashead79 on May 25, 2022 5:20:58 GMT
You have to be really stupid to choose to taunt / attacked opposition players rather than celebrate your own teams success. Especially when the other team had nothing to play for. I can see why somebody may taunt an opposition player after a play off match for example when both teams were playing for the same thing, even though its still wrong. I imagine the recent talk about allowing supporters to drink whilst watching games will be shelved now. If there are serious discussions around alcohol at games(which there should be imo), I can't see how a handful of people should ruin that for hundreds of thousands? They will also be running the numbers and I'd guess there's significant revenue to be made here. Not just for drinkers to drink more, but for those who don't drink at this time who will have one whilst watching the show. With the allowance, will come some control measures. These last few arrests should get punished to send out a message too. If alcohol is the problem or a concern, then the discussion should be more on stopping people who are obviously drunk, from getting into the ground. It's obvious though that drugs, pack mentality, lack of deterrent are key contributing factors here. |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on May 25, 2022 5:53:53 GMT
You have to be really stupid to choose to taunt / attacked opposition players rather than celebrate your own teams success. Especially when the other team had nothing to play for. I can see why somebody may taunt an opposition player after a play off match for example when both teams were playing for the same thing, even though its still wrong. I imagine the recent talk about allowing supporters to drink whilst watching games will be shelved now. If there are serious discussions around alcohol at games(which there should be imo), I can't see how a handful of people should ruin that for hundreds of thousands? They will also be running the numbers and I'd guess there's significant revenue to be made here. Not just for drinkers to drink more, but for those who don't drink at this time who will have one whilst watching the show. With the allowance, will come some control measures. These last few arrests should get punished to send out a message too. If alcohol is the problem or a concern, then the discussion should be more on stopping people who are obviously drunk, from getting into the ground. It's obvious though that drugs, pack mentality, lack of deterrent are key contributing factors here. A few people thought the police at Walsall overreacted. Not the case IMO. One of the lads taken away shouldn't have even been allowed in as couldn't even stand properly. Pretty sure he was 'spotted' early on as a potential one to keep an eye on. It's been said that intelligence is a bit behind as due to the period of covid closed grounds they've had to start afresh on spotting potential flash points/trouble makers |
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Post by fintanstack on May 25, 2022 5:58:17 GMT
If there are serious discussions around alcohol at games(which there should be imo), I can't see how a handful of people should ruin that for hundreds of thousands? They will also be running the numbers and I'd guess there's significant revenue to be made here. Not just for drinkers to drink more, but for those who don't drink at this time who will have one whilst watching the show. With the allowance, will come some control measures. These last few arrests should get punished to send out a message too. If alcohol is the problem or a concern, then the discussion should be more on stopping people who are obviously drunk, from getting into the ground. It's obvious though that drugs, pack mentality, lack of deterrent are key contributing factors here. A few people thought the police at Walsall overreacted. Not the case IMO. One of the lads taken away shouldn't have even been allowed in as couldn't even stand properly. Pretty sure he was 'spotted' early on as a potential one to keep an eye on. It's been said that intelligence is a bit behind as due to the period of covid closed grounds they've had to start afresh on spotting potential flash points/trouble makers I do not understand that argument from the police. You can spot potential troublemakers within five minutes of being stood near them at the Memorial Stadium. |
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Post by gashead79 on May 25, 2022 6:05:14 GMT
If there are serious discussions around alcohol at games(which there should be imo), I can't see how a handful of people should ruin that for hundreds of thousands? They will also be running the numbers and I'd guess there's significant revenue to be made here. Not just for drinkers to drink more, but for those who don't drink at this time who will have one whilst watching the show. With the allowance, will come some control measures. These last few arrests should get punished to send out a message too. If alcohol is the problem or a concern, then the discussion should be more on stopping people who are obviously drunk, from getting into the ground. It's obvious though that drugs, pack mentality, lack of deterrent are key contributing factors here. A few people thought the police at Walsall overreacted. Not the case IMO. One of the lads taken away shouldn't have even been allowed in as couldn't even stand properly. Pretty sure he was 'spotted' early on as a potential one to keep an eye on. It's been said that intelligence is a bit behind as due to the period of covid closed grounds they've had to start afresh on spotting potential flash points/trouble makers Some people will feel that the police over react. If you've gone to the game as a law abiding supporter, to get kettled and shoved around by the police due to a handful of rowdy yobs, you are entitled to feel that way too. Causes more problems than it solves half the time. You can pick out troublemakers and deal with them separately from the majority who want to enjoy the game. |
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Post by fintanstack on May 25, 2022 6:20:42 GMT
A few people thought the police at Walsall overreacted. Not the case IMO. One of the lads taken away shouldn't have even been allowed in as couldn't even stand properly. Pretty sure he was 'spotted' early on as a potential one to keep an eye on. It's been said that intelligence is a bit behind as due to the period of covid closed grounds they've had to start afresh on spotting potential flash points/trouble makers Some people will feel that the police over react. If you've gone to the game as a law abiding supporter, to get kettled and shoved around by the police due to a handful of rowdy yobs, you are entitled to feel that way too. Causes more problems than it solves half the time. You can pick out troublemakers and deal with them separately from the majority who want to enjoy the game. I would happily watch ten police manhandle one out of the stand than be be treated like a animal by one hundred of them after the game. |
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May 25, 2022 8:10:38 GMT
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Post by gassa on May 25, 2022 8:10:38 GMT
They were acting 'normally'. For many, family life has broken down. Where are all the dads? Poor upbringing, poor education, poor life prospects all lead to poor citizenship. The "3 Rs" dictum has long had another two: right and wrong. And it's not the responsibility of a school to teach these. The problems and issues in society are essentially spiritual. When we all do what we want, community breaks down. "Let us consider our ways and return to the Lord." Lamentations 3:40 The Bible.
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Post by fintanstack on May 25, 2022 8:15:48 GMT
They were acting 'normally'. For many, family life has broken down. Where are all the dads? Poor upbringing, poor education, poor life prospects all lead to poor citizenship. The "3 Rs" dictum has long had another two: right and wrong. And it's not the responsibility of a school to teach these. The problems and issues in society are essentially spiritual. When we all do what we want, community breaks down. "Let us consider our ways and return to the Lord." Lamentations 3:40 The Bible. Do not preach the Bible on morality. You may not like what you find there. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 25, 2022 8:36:47 GMT
They were acting 'normally'. For many, family life has broken down. Where are all the dads? Poor upbringing, poor education, poor life prospects all lead to poor citizenship. The "3 Rs" dictum has long had another two: right and wrong. And it's not the responsibility of a school to teach these. The problems and issues in society are essentially spiritual. When we all do what we want, community breaks down. "Let us consider our ways and return to the Lord." Lamentations 3:40 The Bible. Without turning the thread into religious soap box, gassa make a valid point. He quite rightly says that in the past ,regardless of what environment it was in, be it home, school, whatever, you were taught the difference between right and wrong and in 99.9 % (yes, i know someone will dispute the figure and prove me wrong!) of cases the message got home. this did not mean we always did the right thing BUT we knew when we did wrong and also knew there would be consequences, which most of the time was sufficient deterrent. Another result of your wrong doing was that you were not looked on very favourably by your peers whereas nowadays you may well held up as a hero! This could develop into a very interesting debate but its for another place, perhaps not on here imho. |
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May 25, 2022 8:46:04 GMT
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Post by yattongas on May 25, 2022 8:46:04 GMT
You have to be really stupid to choose to taunt / attacked opposition players rather than celebrate your own teams success. Especially when the other team had nothing to play for. I can see why somebody may taunt an opposition player after a play off match for example when both teams were playing for the same thing, even though its still wrong. I imagine the recent talk about allowing supporters to drink whilst watching games will be shelved now. If there are serious discussions around alcohol at games(which there should be imo), I can't see how a handful of people should ruin that for hundreds of thousands? They will also be running the numbers and I'd guess there's significant revenue to be made here. Not just for drinkers to drink more, but for those who don't drink at this time who will have one whilst watching the show. With the allowance, will come some control measures. These last few arrests should get punished to send out a message too. If alcohol is the problem or a concern, then the discussion should be more on stopping people who are obviously drunk, from getting into the ground. It's obvious though that drugs, pack mentality, lack of deterrent are key contributing factors here. Alcohol & cocaine is the heady mix I bet these idiots who attacked players took . |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 25, 2022 8:57:54 GMT
What is wrong with these people? Why can't they behave like normal human beings? We all have choices in life every day or even every minute. So why choose to shout, swear, intimidate, threaten, punch and kick people? Why do they choose to act like overgrown toddlers? Ages ranging from 16 to 38? And there are plenty of older ones who are just as bad. I despair. I am 58 and when i hear the pre match talk by some of my contemporaries, i feel embarrassed for them. Blokes in their 50’s and 60’s talking about ( insert name) bringing a mob and then wanting to fight them. I think it’s tragic but that’s just my opinion. I have only replied that sooner or later, they will come up against a group of teenagers and get badly hurt. Many young supporters now train in various combat sports, ranging from MMA to karate and boxing. Time have moved on with regards to “aggro” at football and so should our lot, i can’t imagine what it must be like if you define yourself by past acts of violence at football and before anyone starts, yes , i was involved up to a point, at Eastville but was just that little bit too young to be having a fight although a group of has had no choice but to do so, to get away from a large group of city fans. Hard to believe that a Glos cup used to see crowds of 20K. |
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