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Post by bidefordgas on Aug 16, 2022 21:04:59 GMT
I feel sorry for the Oxford fans. According to them they played a crap team last Saturday who only won because of a crap referee. And then tonight, they played another crap team and lost due to a crap referee.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Aug 16, 2022 21:06:49 GMT
Watched on I-follow, we were 2nd best all over the pitch tonight and in all honesty could have lost by more. We never got our passing going at all, too many long diagonal balls that were easy for their central defenders. Credit that we kept going but we never looked like we would get back into the game. On to Sat, another tough game - this league isn't going to get any easier
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Post by socrates on Aug 16, 2022 21:08:09 GMT
Haven't been able to watch, were we poor or were Barnsley just to good for us? Both
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 16, 2022 21:10:11 GMT
I couldn't watch tonight as I was out and only got home with ~10 mins left. I see we had three yellows - Connolly, Finley, Coutts yet the BBC stats show us committing 8 fouls to Barnsley's 14 - and they didn't get any yellows. Barton effect, home team bias, or were the yellows warranted? I imagine Finley and Coutts were subbed because of the yellows - they both got booked at the same time?
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Post by garystash on Aug 16, 2022 21:12:27 GMT
Personally didn't think Barnsley were that great. That is though the worse I have seen us play since the beginning of last season - a typical early season performance.
Only 4 games in and still a very long way to go. Keep our heads up and I'm sure we'll do well.
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Post by garystash on Aug 16, 2022 21:18:10 GMT
I couldn't watch tonight as I was out and only got home with ~10 mins left. I see we had three yellows - Connolly, Finley, Coutts yet the BBC stats show us committing 8 fouls to Barnsley's 14 - and they didn't get any yellows. Barton effect, home team bias, or were the yellows warranted? I imagine Finley and Coutts were subbed because of the yellows - they both got booked at the same time? Finley's was very harsh imo. Coutts made a bad challenge but advantage was played. By the time the ref booked Coutts, Finley had made a foul and was going in the book too. It did seem a bit home team bias to me. Lots of little decisions going their way, ref not talking to their players when he would have a word with ours and not booking their player for stopping a counter attack. Bottom line is we weren't good enough though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2022 21:20:44 GMT
I’ll take 10th after 4 games as the newbies in the league, and played a couple of decent teams.
Put in perspective , would anyone like to be a Man U fan tonight, with the MNF next week as well.
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Post by bidefordgas on Aug 16, 2022 21:21:04 GMT
I couldn't watch tonight as I was out and only got home with ~10 mins left. I see we had three yellows - Connolly, Finley, Coutts yet the BBC stats show us committing 8 fouls to Barnsley's 14 - and they didn't get any yellows. Barton effect, home team bias, or were the yellows warranted? I imagine Finley and Coutts were subbed because of the yellows - they both got booked at the same time? All bookings justified Rod. Coutts was booked for a foul he committed a minute or so before Finley got booked and the ref had played the advantage.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 16, 2022 21:21:15 GMT
Haven’t read this thread so FWIW: That was disappointing and we were second best from the start. The conditions were the direct opposite from Saturday and we never came to terms with them. Not sure anyone played really well though Anderson and Finley never gave up and Finley esp tried to get us going. I thought Marquis put in a shift but his first touch was poor and he was unable to keep any ball played up to him. But again he never gave up. Tonight effort wasn’t enough.
But although we lost, and lost easily it’s the first time that’s happened and it will be a good wake up call and we will clearly need to recruit a few more if we want to compete. No complacency after that match!
In truth Barnsley were just too good and deserved their win. It was a bad night all round so I guess we just move on and hope we play better on Saturday. When we aren’t quite at the races and the other team is in this league, then we will find it very difficult. Just like tonight.
UTG!
ps. How has the Oxford match thread got only 16/17 pages after 4 days yet this one where we lose has 16 pages in less than a day? Strange isn’t it?
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Post by haddock_n_chips on Aug 16, 2022 21:25:01 GMT
Watched on iFollow
Barnsley came out of the blocks in the first half all guns blazing. Pressed up very high up the pitch and we had absolutely no answer We just smashed it long all night with Marquis to aim for The writing was on the wall from the first 2 minutes Poor performance away from home tonight But it's just one game, a long way to go away from home, and horrible conditions. So it's not the end of the world. The players didn't lack the effort - especially Belly in goals - but Barnsley outplayed us from the first minute and there was no going back Some poor passing, (was there even 3 passes in a row?!), poor decisions Finley, Whelan, and Collins were probably best for their effort, but we were just smashing it forward with no passing/interplay so just a poor night to forget overall Don't get the comments about Thomas, he had a few good plays and nearly put them in a few times for a goal-scoring chance. I would still have him back here in the quarters. The new guy in CD had a difficult time, he did try to play out so I'd like to see him some more before commenting/criticising. We're still 3-4 players short of top half league 1, but we'll get there
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Post by brads213 on Aug 16, 2022 21:27:05 GMT
The joys and ups and downs of being a gashead . But would we have it any other way UTG
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 16, 2022 21:33:34 GMT
RIP Hoole in the middle of a back four and our best attacking right mid/wing back playing in a defensive position.
Gibson straight in at Pompey.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 16, 2022 21:34:43 GMT
I couldn't watch tonight as I was out and only got home with ~10 mins left. I see we had three yellows - Connolly, Finley, Coutts yet the BBC stats show us committing 8 fouls to Barnsley's 14 - and they didn't get any yellows. Barton effect, home team bias, or were the yellows warranted? I imagine Finley and Coutts were subbed because of the yellows - they both got booked at the same time? All bookings justified Rod. Coutts was booked for a foul he committed a minute or so before Finley got booked and the ref had played the advantage. I thought Finley's was harsh considering that he was also about to book Coutts, that was our two CM's book in the same move! Saunders seemed to be continually fouled but hardly got anything from the ref tonight, not that it would have made much difference to the result.
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 16, 2022 21:39:17 GMT
Totally outclassed tonight but I think we sit in the table where we will finish. 10th to 14th is about where we are as a club in what is an extremely tough league this year. As has been mentioned we’re still 4 or 5 short of finishing mid table this season imo but we will be fine. Utg.
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 16, 2022 21:47:24 GMT
A chance to claw back those credentials at Fratton Park, big crowd, it’s a common gas graveyard but we’ll be backed by a huge away following. An immediate chance to bury this result.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 16, 2022 21:47:28 GMT
This game highlights the critical need for a commanding central defender. If the opposition EXPECT to win long and high balls they can be brave and push on. If our central defender wins most headers, as CT did last season, the opposition will be more cautious. Simples. Perhaps, but of the 3 goals not one came from the two CHs making a mistake. I thought Connolly and Hoole won most of the aerial balls into the box. It wasn’t long and high balls that did us tonight, don’t know the stats but our central defenders did win most headers tonight. We still lost 3-0, easily. It was their runners from midfield that did us tonight and of course the fact we couldn’t pass to each other. We’ll win on Saturday instead! 😉 UTG!
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Post by playtowin on Aug 16, 2022 21:48:11 GMT
Try to build a jigsaw puzzle with the wrong pieces and you wont get far.
Thats todays rovers team.
You cant get away with bodged together teams away at clubs like Barnsley.
There were a lot of poor performances tonight . Hooles first 20mins being the low point. The blame however, in my view falls squarely at the managers door tonight. A stupid team selection.
Barnsley played pretty well . Rovers had one of worst performances for a long long time.
We really need 3 midfielders a couple of fullbacks and a right sided centreback. The failure to bring in replacements in midfield for LT,SN and EA is glaring. Putting strikers in their roles is NOT the answer. It weakens the team severely.
Hopefully JB will learn a big lesson tonight. Loading your team with out of position pkayers will lead to failure.
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 16, 2022 21:49:54 GMT
Try to build a jigsaw puzzle with the wrong pieces and you wont get far. Thats todays rovers team. You cant get away with bodged together teams away at clubs like Barnsley. There were a lot of poor performances tonight . Hooles first 20mins being the low point. The blame however, in my view falls squarely at the managers door tonight. A stupid team selection. Barnsley played pretty well . Rovers had one of worst performances for a long long time. We really need 3 midfielders a couple of fullbacks and a right sided centreback. The failure to bring in replacements in midfield for LT,SN and EA is glaring. Putting strikers in their roles is NOT the answer. It weakens the team severely. Hopefully JB will learn a big lesson tonight. Loading your team with out of position pkayers will lead to failure. Wasn’t it one change from the extremely impressive showing on Saturday?🙃Hardly stupid in my book.
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Post by strads1983 on Aug 16, 2022 21:50:34 GMT
Let’s also remaining grounded to the fact that Barnsley were also in the champ playoffs only 2 season ago.
On wards and up wards. These players under Barton have shown in the past they often bounce back from adversity. 3 points Saturday!
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 16, 2022 21:56:07 GMT
This game highlights the critical need for a commanding central defender. If the opposition EXPECT to win long and high balls they can be brave and push on. If our central defender wins most headers, as CT did last season, the opposition will be more cautious. Simples. Thought exactly the same . They seemed to win every header a both ends . But did they? I agree about Marquis not winning many but I thought the defence did ok aerially and didn’t lose many in our box. The dangers came from elsewhere. The second goal our defence cleared the ball but we had no midfield outsider the box, he had so much time to steady himself before shooting and the third goal poor Belly was put in an awful position and cleared it to the edge of the box where again we had no midfield to help. Generally I would agree we need a CH but tonight I don’t think they were the problem. UTG!
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