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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 28, 2022 9:21:32 GMT
"Viewed with envy across the lower leagues". Really? All Bristol Rovers are knuckle draggers? ALL? I was there and I can tell you that the Shrewsbury bench were pretty provocative. Still, I suppose a long standing fan (since February 2021)would understand it better than me. I wish I had only been a fan since February 2021, I'd find it easy to walk away from this shambles. Not sure I said 'all' either but if the cap fits. Perhaps if you'd been a fan for a few years you'd have realised nothing's really changed and we've always had our idiotic element to the fan base. There's a good chance the fans shouting abuse yesterday have supported the club for years.
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Post by GasHeadBlues on Aug 28, 2022 9:26:15 GMT
I thought having fans who wilfully ignored the managers history of being a scumbag was bad enough, but some of you making excuses for singing songs or making comments about opposing managers or players dying is beyond gross. Some of you weirdos need to take a long hard look at yourself, and for the sake of society, don't reproduce. For the avoidance of doubt could you identify which particular wierdos on here should not be allowed to reproduce.
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Post by yetigas on Aug 28, 2022 9:26:50 GMT
Think S.C is setting his team up to get the best out of them he can , they are limited in technical ability so he sets them up accordingly , bit like GC did with us, with some success, can't make a silk purse etc come to mind, To be honest level of ability is irrelevant. GCs team did not try and cheat as far as I recall...they played football effectively to their limited strengths. Shrewsbury have some competent players who,in my humble opinion, do not need to lower themselves to SCs standards. Players like Leahy can play football...the manager's job is to organise them so they play to the best of their ability...not to cheat their way to scrappy draws. And before someone tells me the manager's job is simply to win...at this stage of the season I would hope that managers have a bit more ambition of playing football...
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Post by smudge1 on Aug 28, 2022 9:28:08 GMT
Please read the first sentence of my post. I did but still stand by what I say. I have been watching Rovers nearly as long as you have. I think society has taken a very downward slope in general and this is transposed by some of the things we hear. Anyway you have a good weekend and UTG.
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Post by fordyp on Aug 28, 2022 9:35:50 GMT
I thought having fans who wilfully ignored the managers history of being a scumbag was bad enough, but some of you making excuses for singing songs or making comments about opposing managers or players dying is beyond gross. Some of you weirdos need to take a long hard look at yourself, and for the sake of society, don't reproduce. For the avoidance of doubt could you identify which particular wierdos on here should not be allowed to reproduce. Anyone defending the chants aimed at the death of Taylor, making remarks about the death of Cotterill and anyone defending Joey Barton's character. Hope that helps.
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Post by yetigas on Aug 28, 2022 9:36:27 GMT
Please read the first sentence of my post. I did but still stand by what I say. I have been watching Rovers nearly as long as you have. I think society has taken a very downward slope in general and this is transposed by some of the things we hear. Anyway you have a good weekend and UTG. You implied in your post that I made excuses for abusive chanting/shouting. I did not. I was merely using the same thread to say that people like Cotterill are anti-football and I hope they get their deserved reward of consecutive relegations. I too stand by what I said!!!
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Post by fordyp on Aug 28, 2022 9:36:44 GMT
I wish I had only been a fan since February 2021, I'd find it easy to walk away from this shambles. Not sure I said 'all' either but if the cap fits. Perhaps if you'd been a fan for a few years you'd have realised nothing's really changed and we've always had our idiotic element to the fan base. There's a good chance the fans shouting abuse yesterday have supported the club for years. Agreed but just because blokes have knocked their wives about for years that isn't acceptable either is it?
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Post by fordyp on Aug 28, 2022 9:38:03 GMT
Nah I'll tell you what's becoming boring, supporting a club who used to have a fanbase that was viewed with envy across the lower leagues descend into a classless bunch of knuckle draggers making excuses for a horrific human being of a manager because he won a few games, and excusing chants wishing death upon a former player and former manager of our biggest rivals. With respect, no, I won't give it a rest. I'll give it a rest when that scumbag and evidently the scumbag element of our fanbase are nowhere near my club and we can be proud to say we are Rovers fans again. Until then, you and all the other Barton lovers can kiss my hairy arse. If your decision is to abuse others when discussing others who you say are abusive I’m not sure where you’re going with this to be completely honest. 👍🏾 I decided to abuse others, as you say, for making remarks about the death of an opposing manager and singing about the death of a former player who take a massive pay rise to play for our rivals, as well as anyone defending a convicted thug many times over and alleged wife beater. If you can't separate the two that's a pretty bad indication of you as an individual I'm afraid.
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Post by fordyp on Aug 28, 2022 9:41:29 GMT
I'm aware by the way that I'll probably get banned soon by the admins, some of whom love Joey and one of whom likes to make out he owns supercars, but we are where we are. Up the Gas and see you all when Barton has gone.
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Post by The Equaliser on Aug 28, 2022 9:44:55 GMT
I'm aware by the way that I'll probably get banned soon by the admins, some of whom love Joey and one of whom likes to make out he owns supercars, but we are where we are. Up the Gas and see you all when Barton has gone. 👍🏾 link
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Post by peterhooper57 on Aug 28, 2022 9:45:50 GMT
People say the silliest things in the heat of the moment. Im sure the person didnt literally mean it. I dont believe Steve Cotterill would believe it was actually meant literally. SC might reflect that his teams antics provoked such a comment. That maybe he might improve his attitude to the game. That may result in people not saying such stupid remarks to him. People should take a deep breathe sometimes and think before they shout out comments. Totally agree with you. It really amazes me how many morally superior key board warriors, call people out on Sunday morning, but do actually nothing about it on match day. If you feel so upset speak to the new mob of match day stewards they are itching to get involved.
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Post by gulfofaden on Aug 28, 2022 9:47:41 GMT
So you think people should not be abusive? I don't think people should sing or chant wishing death on people for doing thier job, no. Nobody likes that. The question is, should people face consequences for insults. Personally I believe we stopped putting people in the stocks and iron maidens for insults and heresy in the Middle Ages, but it’s making a comeback under the guise of “kindness”
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Post by fordyp on Aug 28, 2022 9:51:18 GMT
I don't think people should sing or chant wishing death on people for doing thier job, no. Nobody likes that. The question is, should people face consequences for insults. Personally I believe we stopped putting people in the stocks and iron maidens for insults and heresy in the Middle Ages, but it’s making a comeback under the guise of “kindness” That's a different issue to be fair and one I may well be on the same page as you over if discussed at length. There is absolutely no justification to be singing about the death of a player who scored a load of goals for us, or making remarks about the death of an opposition manager who was actually very ill last year though.
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Post by popuppirate on Aug 28, 2022 10:02:57 GMT
The comments shouted at SC were completely unacceptable, no question about that at all. To create some weird link between this and our current manager though is tenuous to say the least, maybe a little bit desperate too. Vile chants have been around as long as I've followed Rovers (over 40 years) and aren't exclusive to our club. In fact, it's far more likely these days to be held to account for these actions than it's ever been (which is a good thing) but that doesn't mean it's any better or worse than it ever was.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 28, 2022 10:07:26 GMT
I can not believe people have tried to justify this
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Post by fordyp on Aug 28, 2022 10:07:27 GMT
The comments shouted at SC were completely unacceptable, no question about that at all. To create some weird link between this and our current manager though is tenuous to say the least, maybe a little bit desperate too. Vile chants have been around as long as I've followed Rovers (over 40 years) and aren't exclusive to our club. In fact, it's far more likely these days to be held to account for these actions than it's ever been (which is a good thing) but that doesn't mean it's any better or worse than it ever was. I think there's a very clear distinction and precedent set when the very mouthpiece of the club has previous for much worse than shouting stuff. It sets a benchmark in acceptable behaviours and his comments recently regarding the Cowley's and Cotterill yesterday going virtually unchallenged show that ultimately Paul Buckle got his wish didn't he; expectations have been lowered, it's just the expectation of how people should represent our football club.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 10:09:04 GMT
That’s now two underlying digs at Barton in your last two posts , give it a rest , it’s becoming boring Nah I'll tell you what's becoming boring, supporting a club who used to have a fanbase that was viewed with envy across the lower leagues descend into a classless bunch of knuckle draggers making excuses for a horrific human being of a manager because he won a few games, and excusing chants wishing death upon a former player and former manager of our biggest rivals. With respect, no, I won't give it a rest. I'll give it a rest when that scumbag and evidently the scumbag element of our fanbase are nowhere near my club and we can be proud to say we are Rovers fans again. Until then, you and all the other Barton lovers can kiss my hairy arse. I remember my first beer
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Post by fordyp on Aug 28, 2022 10:14:23 GMT
Nah I'll tell you what's becoming boring, supporting a club who used to have a fanbase that was viewed with envy across the lower leagues descend into a classless bunch of knuckle draggers making excuses for a horrific human being of a manager because he won a few games, and excusing chants wishing death upon a former player and former manager of our biggest rivals. With respect, no, I won't give it a rest. I'll give it a rest when that scumbag and evidently the scumbag element of our fanbase are nowhere near my club and we can be proud to say we are Rovers fans again. Until then, you and all the other Barton lovers can kiss my hairy arse. I remember my first beer But did you have one too many and leave a young lad for dead in the street and end up serving time for the incident? You're a failure compared to Barton.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 10:16:19 GMT
But did you have one too many and leave a young lad for dead in the street and end up serving time for the incident? You're a failure compared to Barton. Someone’s been at the evostik this morning 😂
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Post by popuppirate on Aug 28, 2022 10:18:23 GMT
The comments shouted at SC were completely unacceptable, no question about that at all. To create some weird link between this and our current manager though is tenuous to say the least, maybe a little bit desperate too. Vile chants have been around as long as I've followed Rovers (over 40 years) and aren't exclusive to our club. In fact, it's far more likely these days to be held to account for these actions than it's ever been (which is a good thing) but that doesn't mean it's any better or worse than it ever was. I think there's a very clear distinction and precedent set when the very mouthpiece of the club has previous for much worse than shouting stuff. It sets a benchmark in acceptable behaviours and his comments recently regarding the Cowley's and Cotterill yesterday going virtually unchallenged show that ultimately Paul Buckle got his wish didn't he; expectations have been lowered, it's just the expectation of how people should represent our football club. The benchmark at football matches has always been incredibly low, regardless of who manages or owns a football club. I've heard worse (yes, genuinely worse) chants during the Gerry Francis era, and again during the DC era. It's not exclusive to us and it's not exclusive to this era. It's unacceptable and it always has been but this bears no relation to our current manager
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