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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Aug 28, 2022 21:56:21 GMT
You talking to me ? 🤔
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 28, 2022 22:19:16 GMT
So, someone gave Cotterill some abuse. It was disgusting but are we really surprised that we have our fair share of knobheads? I suspect JB gets that and much worse at most away grounds and at times even at the Mem in the early days. And Cotterill will love being able to come on and act the victim and avoid answering questions about his team’s antics. UTG! Sounds like you’re attempting to justify it my friend. It’s not acceptable but good to read that just one person was able to stop it, we all need to start policing our own knobheads. No more just standing there and letting it go IMO
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Post by gulfofaden on Aug 29, 2022 6:35:20 GMT
You do have to think about what’s actually been damaged here.
This is about hurt feelings. Someone said someone nasty.
We are grown adults. We are growing increasing infantilised.
Yes, it was a dickish thing to say, but when people say bad things to you, if someone had said this to you, are we really that weak that we feel sad inside? Are we really all children that we suck our thumbs?
A bloke like SC, a wind up merchant, as we saw, I would wager isn’t actually now sat in tears wringing his hands.
Jesus, you have to wonder the lives people have led when stuff like this is some disgrace. There’s people in Mexico living with the threat of being hacked up with machetes if they step out of line. There’s people living under regimes which transport you or torture you for non compliance.
There’s people in this country who live under constant threat of violence, there’s kids getting belt beaten for a wrong word, and you’re all wetting your knickers over mean words.
If you’re upset about people being mean, it’s on you to develop the resilience to deal with it. Not on society to gather around and prevent these things happening, because they will happen, often.
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Post by lisbongas on Aug 29, 2022 7:12:51 GMT
You do have to think about what’s actually been damaged here. This is about hurt feelings. Someone said someone nasty. We are grown adults. We are growing increasing infantilised. Yes, it was a dickish thing to say, but when people say bad things to you, if someone had said this to you, are we really that weak that we feel sad inside? Are we really all children that we suck our thumbs? A bloke like SC, a wind up merchant, as we saw, I would wager isn’t actually now sat in tears wringing his hands. Jesus, you have to wonder the lives people have led when stuff like this is some disgrace. There’s people in Mexico living with the threat of being hacked up with machetes if they step out of line. There’s people living under regimes which transport you or torture you for non compliance. There’s people in this country who live under constant threat of violence, there’s kids getting belt beaten for a wrong word, and you’re all wetting your knickers over mean words. If you’re upset about people being mean, it’s on you to develop the resilience to deal with it. Not on society to gather around and prevent these things happening, because they will happen, often. What a load of twaddle. Yes we can give opposition managers and players stick, but in life it is about boundaries. From what you say it would be ok to abuse Darryl Clarke on his recent lost. Rovers recently made a complaint against Barnsley for abusing our female physio, clearly you don't see a problem with it, where do you stop a return to abusing someone because of the colour of their skin. Fact is Cottrell almost died not sure that is fair grounds for abusing the bloke. Luckily the majority of Rovers fans and forum members set the bar for dishing out stick slightly higher.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 29, 2022 7:15:03 GMT
You do have to think about what’s actually been damaged here. This is about hurt feelings. Someone said someone nasty. We are grown adults. We are growing increasing infantilised. Yes, it was a dickish thing to say, but when people say bad things to you, if someone had said this to you, are we really that weak that we feel sad inside? Are we really all children that we suck our thumbs? A bloke like SC, a wind up merchant, as we saw, I would wager isn’t actually now sat in tears wringing his hands. Jesus, you have to wonder the lives people have led when stuff like this is some disgrace. There’s people in Mexico living with the threat of being hacked up with machetes if they step out of line. There’s people living under regimes which transport you or torture you for non compliance. There’s people in this country who live under constant threat of violence, there’s kids getting belt beaten for a wrong word, and you’re all wetting your knickers over mean words. If you’re upset about people being mean, it’s on you to develop the resilience to deal with it. Not on society to gather around and prevent these things happening, because they will happen, often. As you say there are far worse things happening to people throughout the world but i still think it would be better to educate the perpetrators of such actions whether gang lords in Mexico, evil doers in this country down to those who chant dubious words at football matches, rather than just shrug our shoulders and accept it as 'that's life, deal with it' .an interesting debate could be had on the subject.
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Post by gulfofaden on Aug 29, 2022 7:44:41 GMT
You do have to think about what’s actually been damaged here. This is about hurt feelings. Someone said someone nasty. We are grown adults. We are growing increasing infantilised. Yes, it was a dickish thing to say, but when people say bad things to you, if someone had said this to you, are we really that weak that we feel sad inside? Are we really all children that we suck our thumbs? A bloke like SC, a wind up merchant, as we saw, I would wager isn’t actually now sat in tears wringing his hands. Jesus, you have to wonder the lives people have led when stuff like this is some disgrace. There’s people in Mexico living with the threat of being hacked up with machetes if they step out of line. There’s people living under regimes which transport you or torture you for non compliance. There’s people in this country who live under constant threat of violence, there’s kids getting belt beaten for a wrong word, and you’re all wetting your knickers over mean words. If you’re upset about people being mean, it’s on you to develop the resilience to deal with it. Not on society to gather around and prevent these things happening, because they will happen, often. As you say there are far worse things happening to people throughout the world but i still think it would be better to educate the perpetrators of such actions whether gang lords in Mexico, evil doers in this country down to those who chant dubious words at football matches, rather than just shrug our shoulders and accept it as 'that's life, deal with it' .an interesting debate could be had on the subject. Yes, that’s exactly what you do. If it was a targeted campaign, that’s harrassment. I’d have no problem of Rovers banned the individual, it’s up to them. A football game is a private enterprise not a public utility. What you say about DC is a really good point. I guess the question I’m talking about here is legal action. I think I might be talking at cross purposes. I do, however, see a distinction between making insults based on an illness they beat and mocking someone who’s child has in fact died. I am most certain that if SC had died, those fans would not have been mocking the widow/family. That is, however, mitigation of the incident. It is indeed a very big subject.
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Post by gulfofaden on Aug 29, 2022 7:56:44 GMT
You do have to think about what’s actually been damaged here. This is about hurt feelings. Someone said someone nasty. We are grown adults. We are growing increasing infantilised. Yes, it was a dickish thing to say, but when people say bad things to you, if someone had said this to you, are we really that weak that we feel sad inside? Are we really all children that we suck our thumbs? A bloke like SC, a wind up merchant, as we saw, I would wager isn’t actually now sat in tears wringing his hands. Jesus, you have to wonder the lives people have led when stuff like this is some disgrace. There’s people in Mexico living with the threat of being hacked up with machetes if they step out of line. There’s people living under regimes which transport you or torture you for non compliance. There’s people in this country who live under constant threat of violence, there’s kids getting belt beaten for a wrong word, and you’re all wetting your knickers over mean words. If you’re upset about people being mean, it’s on you to develop the resilience to deal with it. Not on society to gather around and prevent these things happening, because they will happen, often. What a load of twaddle. Yes we can give opposition managers and players stick, but in life it is about boundaries. From what you say it would be ok to abuse Darryl Clarke on his recent lost. Rovers recently made a complaint against Barnsley for abusing our female physio, clearly you don't see a problem with it, where do you stop a return to abusing someone because of the colour of their skin. Fact is Cottrell almost died not sure that is fair grounds for abusing the bloke. Luckily the majority of Rovers fans and forum members set the bar for dishing out stick slightly higher. It was a dickish thing to say. I can see why someone would be upset. If I had heard it and been next to them I expect I would have told him it’s a bit much. As I’ve said, I think mocking people who’s children have died is a far cry from what was said, when it’s clear he’s not actually dead. It’s worth emphasising it was a stupid thing to say. It’s more a case that it feels like a bit of a playground “he said THIS” type thing. Like there are bigger issues in the world than various times people got offended.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 29, 2022 8:15:32 GMT
So, someone gave Cotterill some abuse. It was disgusting but are we really surprised that we have our fair share of knobheads? I suspect JB gets that and much worse at most away grounds and at times even at the Mem in the early days. And Cotterill will love being able to come on and act the victim and avoid answering questions about his team’s antics. UTG! Sounds like you’re attempting to justify it my friend. It’s not acceptable but good to read that just one person was able to stop it, we all need to start policing our own knobheads. No more just standing there and letting it go IMO No justification, best read what I’ve said: “It was disgusting...” unequivocal KP. And please tell me I am wrong about us having our fair share of knobheads, then I will apologise for what I posted. I take responsibility for my actions, not sure I can be responsible for the actions of others. UTG!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 29, 2022 8:45:47 GMT
That’s now two underlying digs at Barton in your last two posts , give it a rest , it’s becoming boring Nah I'll tell you what's becoming boring, supporting a club who used to have a fanbase that was viewed with envy across the lower leagues descend into a classless bunch of knuckle draggers making excuses for a horrific human being of a manager because he won a few games, and excusing chants wishing death upon a former player and former manager of our biggest rivals. With respect, no, I won't give it a rest. I'll give it a rest when that scumbag and evidently the scumbag element of our fanbase are nowhere near my club and we can be proud to say we are Rovers fans again. Until then, you and all the other Barton lovers can kiss my hairy arse. Don't make me laugh
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 29, 2022 9:02:28 GMT
Sounds like you’re attempting to justify it my friend. It’s not acceptable but good to read that just one person was able to stop it, we all need to start policing our own knobheads. No more just standing there and letting it go IMO No justification, best read what I’ve said: “It was disgusting...” unequivocal KP. And please tell me I am wrong about us having our fair share of knobheads, then I will apologise for what I posted. I take responsibility for my actions, not sure I can be responsible for the actions of others. UTG! Fair play Wareham, you are not wrong about our fan base having it’s ample share of knobheads and i was not , in any way looking for you to make any kind of apology. It just seemed to me that , by using Barton as an example, you were making an attempt to justify but reading what someone else has posted and properly understanding it are two different things, this is why i try to meet as many posters as i can and i have met a few, on match days.
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Post by wertongas on Aug 29, 2022 10:31:24 GMT
Players shouldn't have to deal with it and overcome, this sort of behavior by players will drive fans away, the FA and EFL need to clamp down on it. Not sure why you've chosen to take this thread off at a tangent and are ignoring the main issue, the abuse directed at Cotterill, when there's another thread discussing the "dark arts" i am not going off on a tangent the whole reason why abuse was shouted at Cotterill was because of the awful tactics he got his team to deploy. Fans were frustrated at watching players cheating, the play acting and rolling around on the pitch was done so well players may have practised it in training and as pointed out before there was no death threat as reported, someone childishly shouted out that he wished Cotterill was dead, the person should have not done that but if the Shrews hadn't deployed the tactics they did then the whole incident would never of happened and fans wouldn't have left the ground feeling frustrated and some cases angry, because 11 idiots and their manager had ruined their afternoon. In 45 years of watching football i have never seen such a cheating show, problem is if the Shrews get away with it then other clubs will try to do the same.
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Post by baggins on Aug 29, 2022 11:49:18 GMT
That’s now two underlying digs at Barton in your last two posts , give it a rest , it’s becoming boring Nah I'll tell you what's becoming boring, supporting a club who used to have a fanbase that was viewed with envy across the lower leagues descend into a classless bunch of knuckle draggers making excuses for a horrific human being of a manager because he won a few games, and excusing chants wishing death upon a former player and former manager of our biggest rivals. With respect, no, I won't give it a rest. I'll give it a rest when that scumbag and evidently the scumbag element of our fanbase are nowhere near my club and we can be proud to say we are Rovers fans again. Until then, you and all the other Barton lovers can kiss my hairy arse. Oh dear.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 29, 2022 12:04:35 GMT
No justification, best read what I’ve said: “It was disgusting...” unequivocal KP. And please tell me I am wrong about us having our fair share of knobheads, then I will apologise for what I posted. I take responsibility for my actions, not sure I can be responsible for the actions of others. UTG! Fair play Wareham, you are not wrong about our fan base having it’s ample share of knobheads and i was not , in any way looking for you to make any kind of apology. It just seemed to me that , by using Barton as an example, you were making an attempt to justify but reading what someone else has posted and properly understanding it are two different things, this is why i try to meet as many posters as i can and i have met a few, on match days. 👍 UTG!
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Post by DrFaustus on Aug 29, 2022 12:19:35 GMT
Not sure why you've chosen to take this thread off at a tangent and are ignoring the main issue, the abuse directed at Cotterill, when there's another thread discussing the "dark arts" i am not going off on a tangent the whole reason why abuse was shouted at Cotterill was because of the awful tactics he got his team to deploy. Fans were frustrated at watching players cheating, the play acting and rolling around on the pitch was done so well players may have practised it in training and as pointed out before there was no death threat as reported, someone childishly shouted out that he wished Cotterill was dead, the person should have not done that but if the Shrews hadn't deployed the tactics they did then the whole incident would never of happened and fans wouldn't have left the ground feeling frustrated and some cases angry, because 11 idiots and their manager had ruined their afternoon. In 45 years of watching football i have never seen such a cheating show, problem is if the Shrews get away with it then other clubs will try to do the same. Exactly right. Some tit shouted childish abuse at Cotterill. He deserved abuse (not wishing him dead before the fan of 18 months rips her thong) for the worst display of B Movie acting I've ever seen. Still unsure where all the snipers were hiding.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 29, 2022 13:46:26 GMT
Maybe Steve would have preferred the standard ted greeting of spitting in his face instead
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Post by nailseamark on Aug 29, 2022 16:30:28 GMT
It’s literally just because he has a big platform to moan on people will listen. People say worse to me on a daily basis but there’s no point me moaning because no one will listen. Social media has given a voice to many people and anything counts as news nowadays. The world is going to turd and there’s a lot bigger things we need to worry about. It’s time people toughen up because my god I think we’re going to need to!
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Post by aghast on Aug 29, 2022 17:14:05 GMT
You do have to think about what’s actually been damaged here. This is about hurt feelings. Someone said someone nasty. We are grown adults. We are growing increasing infantilised. Yes, it was a dickish thing to say, but when people say bad things to you, if someone had said this to you, are we really that weak that we feel sad inside? Are we really all children that we suck our thumbs? A bloke like SC, a wind up merchant, as we saw, I would wager isn’t actually now sat in tears wringing his hands. Jesus, you have to wonder the lives people have led when stuff like this is some disgrace. There’s people in Mexico living with the threat of being hacked up with machetes if they step out of line. There’s people living under regimes which transport you or torture you for non compliance. There’s people in this country who live under constant threat of violence, there’s kids getting belt beaten for a wrong word, and you’re all wetting your knickers over mean words. If you’re upset about people being mean, it’s on you to develop the resilience to deal with it. Not on society to gather around and prevent these things happening, because they will happen, often. And the first prize for Whataboutery goes to you. Who, I'm sure, would be first in line to become outraged if anyone said they wished a member of your family had died. Civilisation has not advanced through ignoring uncivilised behaviour. Quite the opposite.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 29, 2022 17:21:24 GMT
SC was asked about it because the press were there, and witnessed what happened.
I don't think that what he said was that bad, he said that it was just a few people, another fan told them to pipe down, and that the stewarding was pretty good. The Bristol Post headline "Cotterill slams abuse...." is OTT, and stirs things up.
“I came back here as a former Bristol City manager who has been successful and I’ve still got a home in the city,” Cotterill said. “That abuse is not acceptable but I have lots of good friends who are ardent Rovers fans.
“It’s a few people who decide they wanted to have something to say but I don’t know what you can do about it. You’ve got to take it. They are far enough away from you but there’s a lot of people who are brave when they are 20 or 30 feet away.
“The stewarding was pretty good and another guy told them to pipe down but unfortunately this happens in football. Thankfully, it’s an isolated incident.”
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Aug 29, 2022 19:54:38 GMT
Mmmmmm the man’s an idiot ! 💙
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Post by fordyp on Aug 29, 2022 20:33:10 GMT
i am not going off on a tangent the whole reason why abuse was shouted at Cotterill was because of the awful tactics he got his team to deploy. Fans were frustrated at watching players cheating, the play acting and rolling around on the pitch was done so well players may have practised it in training and as pointed out before there was no death threat as reported, someone childishly shouted out that he wished Cotterill was dead, the person should have not done that but if the Shrews hadn't deployed the tactics they did then the whole incident would never of happened and fans wouldn't have left the ground feeling frustrated and some cases angry, because 11 idiots and their manager had ruined their afternoon. In 45 years of watching football i have never seen such a cheating show, problem is if the Shrews get away with it then other clubs will try to do the same. Exactly right. Some tit shouted childish abuse at Cotterill. He deserved abuse (not wishing him dead before the fan of 18 months rips her thong) for the worst display of B Movie acting I've ever seen. Still unsure where all the snipers were hiding. I thought better of you Grant, especially since I was there during the times of the boardroom split many years ago when you then lost your mojo and went to support the Blades...but yeah, 18 months. I wish! If it was just 18 months I wouldn't even give a toss enough to post, I'd be off literally anywhere else. I remember the days when the real OG Dr Faustus would have had quite the opinion on Barton. Pity.
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