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Post by pirate on Sept 10, 2022 14:20:48 GMT
Yes, it is a POV but that doesn’t make it right. Others have a different POV and that doesn’t make them right either. In the end the powers that be made a decision. I’ll be interested to see how the other sports show their respect. If it’s a 2 minute silence or something similar then I’m not sure, given we have 2 or 3 of those most seasons at football anyway for the passing of those connected to football clubs. UTG! So staying at home or going going to the pub, cinema, shops etc is better than people coming together at a football venue to show their respect by having minutes silence/applause and singing the national anthem? As that article says, you must still go to work and school, you can still catch a film at the cinema, enjoy a coffee or bite to eat with friends, visit your favourite shops, have a pint in the pub, pop to the gym, watch live rugby, horse racing and cricket, but not the football. Makes sense. 🙄
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Post by stapletongas on Sept 10, 2022 14:48:25 GMT
At least the ECB have shown the good sense and judgement to allow the test to continue. Great cricket match! Oh and 5:30 Eurosport R8 of the Speedway Grand Prix from Denmark, rising UK star Dan Bewley has won the last 2
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Post by dudelebowski on Sept 10, 2022 15:30:20 GMT
Concerns about minutes silence being disrupted is a p|ss weak excuse, you could hear a pin drop at Old Trafford Thursday night.
Of course, there could only ever be anti monarchy folk at football matches! The berks
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 10, 2022 15:37:39 GMT
Yes, it is a POV but that doesn’t make it right. Others have a different POV and that doesn’t make them right either. In the end the powers that be made a decision. I’ll be interested to see how the other sports show their respect. If it’s a 2 minute silence or something similar then I’m not sure, given we have 2 or 3 of those most seasons at football anyway for the passing of those connected to football clubs. UTG! So staying at home or going going to the pub, cinema, shops etc is better than people coming together at a football venue to show their respect by having minutes silence/applause and singing the national anthem? As that article says, you must still go to work and school, you can still catch a film at the cinema, enjoy a coffee or bite to eat with friends, visit your favourite shops, have a pint in the pub, pop to the gym, watch live rugby, horse racing and cricket, but not the football. Makes sense. 🙄 Of course there are many other things that people can do as you’ve said but what people choose to do isn’t the responsibility or business of the FA/PL/EFL, football is. And they’ve decided to show respect by postponing fixtures for this one weekend. Of course not everyone will agree, they never do. I and many others think they got it right (just about, but I’m not overly bothered either way) whereas others feel differently. That was always going to happen. I’m sure we’ll survive without a weekend’s football.
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Post by bs10er on Sept 10, 2022 16:10:11 GMT
At first I agreed with the postponing but now seeing other sports have gone ahead I am not so sure. I am disappointed,but not too concerned,at least I mowed the lawn instead!
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 10, 2022 16:17:41 GMT
So staying at home or going going to the pub, cinema, shops etc is better than people coming together at a football venue to show their respect by having minutes silence/applause and singing the national anthem? As that article says, you must still go to work and school, you can still catch a film at the cinema, enjoy a coffee or bite to eat with friends, visit your favourite shops, have a pint in the pub, pop to the gym, watch live rugby, horse racing and cricket, but not the football. Makes sense. 🙄 Of course there are many other things that people can do as you’ve said but what people choose to do isn’t the responsibility or business of the FA/PL/EFL, football is. And they’ve decided to show respect by postponing fixtures for this one weekend. Of course not everyone will agree, they never do. I and many others think they got it right (just about, but I’m not overly bothered either way) whereas others feel differently. That was always going to happen. I’m sure we’ll survive without a weekend’s football. The thing is, the FA etc have made it their business as to what football fans can do this weekend - in my view, a decision which, once again, shows that they are out of touch with a lot of football fans. I would have liked the opportunity to join like minded people in showing respect, and remembering a very special lady - then the opportunity to concentrate on some relaxation for a couple of hours, after experiencing all the emotions of the last few days. With regard to the concern about some football fans not showing respect - if they are that way inclined, this will happen when there are tributes at the first matches played.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 10, 2022 17:57:55 GMT
Of course there are many other things that people can do as you’ve said but what people choose to do isn’t the responsibility or business of the FA/PL/EFL, football is. And they’ve decided to show respect by postponing fixtures for this one weekend. Of course not everyone will agree, they never do. I and many others think they got it right (just about, but I’m not overly bothered either way) whereas others feel differently. That was always going to happen. I’m sure we’ll survive without a weekend’s football. The thing is, the FA etc have made it their business as to what football fans can do this weekend - in my view, a decision which, once again, shows that they are out of touch with a lot of football fans. I would have liked the opportunity to join like minded people in showing respect, and remembering a very special lady - then the opportunity to concentrate on some relaxation for a couple of hours, after experiencing all the emotions of the last few days. With regard to the concern about some football fans not showing respect - if they are that way inclined, this will happen when there are tributes at the first matches played. Sorry Tilly but that’s not true. People could choose to do what they wanted. The football bodies didn’t make it their business. I chose to do something else today, no problem. I hope you did something that you chose to do today and that you had a good day. 👍 UTG!
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Post by wertongas on Sept 10, 2022 18:01:59 GMT
I find the FA decision a bit strange, this would have been a good opportunity for football clubs and organisations and their supporters up and down the country to show that we can all get together as one and show respect when needed. For the Queen there could have been a one minute silence at the beginning of the match and applause on 70 minutes representing every year of her reign, I hope we haven't lost that opportunity.
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Post by popuppirate on Sept 10, 2022 18:08:01 GMT
The thing is, the FA etc have made it their business as to what football fans can do this weekend - in my view, a decision which, once again, shows that they are out of touch with a lot of football fans. I would have liked the opportunity to join like minded people in showing respect, and remembering a very special lady - then the opportunity to concentrate on some relaxation for a couple of hours, after experiencing all the emotions of the last few days. With regard to the concern about some football fans not showing respect - if they are that way inclined, this will happen when there are tributes at the first matches played. Sorry Tilly but that’s not true. People could choose to do what they wanted. The football bodies didn’t make it their business. I chose to do something else today, no problem. I hope you did something that you chose to do today and that you had a good day. 👍 UTG! I wanted to watch my son train yesterday and compete in a match tomorrow, but couldn't. He, his teammates and the opposition team all wanted to play too. It feels rather like we're being dictated to regarding how or if we choose to pay our respects
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Post by eric on Sept 10, 2022 18:27:33 GMT
Sorry Tilly but that’s not true. People could choose to do what they wanted. The football bodies didn’t make it their business. I chose to do something else today, no problem. I hope you did something that you chose to do today and that you had a good day. 👍 UTG! I wanted to watch my son train yesterday and compete in a match tomorrow, but couldn't. He, his teammates and the opposition team all wanted to play too. It feels rather like we're being dictated to regarding how or if we choose to pay our respects You must mourn and in no way enjoy watching or participating in any football related activity this weekend - the FA said so !! People who follow other sports and pastimes “business as usual”. Football fans and players await further instruction on when life can return to normal.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Sept 10, 2022 19:10:30 GMT
Wonder how many fans would have made their own decision and not feel it right to attend if games had gone ahead, enough to cost clubs a few bob i reckon. Any way it's gone now, hope you all survived, not so bad was it? just no game to moan about!
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Post by axegas on Sept 10, 2022 19:26:57 GMT
Wonder how many fans would have made their own decision and not feel it right to attend if games had gone ahead, enough to cost clubs a few bob i reckon. Any way it's gone now, hope you all survived, not so bad was it? just no game to moan about! They’ll all be rearranged to Tuesday and get lower crowds than if they were on a Saturday. So the decision has costs the clubs money if anything. Not to mention all the businesses located close to the ground who rely on that trade.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 10, 2022 20:15:51 GMT
The thing is, the FA etc have made it their business as to what football fans can do this weekend - in my view, a decision which, once again, shows that they are out of touch with a lot of football fans. I would have liked the opportunity to join like minded people in showing respect, and remembering a very special lady - then the opportunity to concentrate on some relaxation for a couple of hours, after experiencing all the emotions of the last few days. With regard to the concern about some football fans not showing respect - if they are that way inclined, this will happen when there are tributes at the first matches played. Sorry Tilly but that’s not true. People could choose to do what they wanted. The football bodies didn’t make it their business. I chose to do something else today, no problem. I hope you did something that you chose to do today and that you had a good day. 👍 UTG! Thank you for the positive thoughts, unfortunately, it turned out to be downhill all the way. My gorgeous little 15 year old rescue dog has been unwell, so we will be saying the final goodbye on Monday (sooner, if she gets worse and needs the emergency vet). Heard this afternoon that my 98 year old Mum has Covid, she has survived it once before, so keeping everything crossed. It's just a waiting game at the moment.
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Post by aghast on Sept 10, 2022 21:50:14 GMT
Wrong decision in my opinion. If people wish to grieve or pay respects, then they can do that in whatever way they feel appropriate, including not going to football, the pub, or anywhere they wish not to be. Just to throw this into the ring. When Diana, the mother of her own grandchildren died, the Queen did not initially cancel or change her plans. No return to London, no flag at half mast, no address to the nation. Until Tony Blair virtually forced her to do so. So I'm guessing she would not wish the nation to be forced to change their plans whether they like it or not. Disagree with the opinion this post, and it's reference. Watching "The Queen" isn't a necessarily historically accurate. The contemporary (unexpected from their pov) public outcry led to escalation in state funeral protocol. TB might have played a minor part in it, but it was many other nobles advisors etc that decided that one, and reformation within the Royal household that forced them to look at themselves thereafter as they were so out of touch with the perceived majority of thinking at that time. There might have been a few half masts in the Hewitt / Carling households though... I believe out of respect it's probably the best thing to do, but there is a consequence on cost of travel, work (as so many in the country do normal job on match day and won't be recompensed) and inconvenience to thousands. But that's how respect works doesn't it? Putting something more important than yourself ahead of what you personally want by acknowledging it's importance... You think my opinions are based on watching the movie The Queen?. Ok then. Whatever. But you're wrong.
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Post by pirate on Sept 10, 2022 21:51:18 GMT
Sorry Tilly but that’s not true. People could choose to do what they wanted. The football bodies didn’t make it their business. I chose to do something else today, no problem. I hope you did something that you chose to do today and that you had a good day. 👍 UTG! Thank you for the positive thoughts, unfortunately, it turned out to be downhill all the way. My gorgeous little 15 year old rescue dog has been unwell, so we will be saying the final goodbye on Monday (sooner, if she gets worse and needs the emergency vet). Heard this afternoon that my 98 year old Mum has Covid, she has survived it once before, so keeping everything crossed. It's just a waiting game at the moment. Sorry to hear about your dog Tilly and good luck to your mum. 🤞🏻🙏🏻
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Post by RD on Sept 11, 2022 6:21:36 GMT
Sorry Tilly but that’s not true. People could choose to do what they wanted. The football bodies didn’t make it their business. I chose to do something else today, no problem. I hope you did something that you chose to do today and that you had a good day. 👍 UTG! Thank you for the positive thoughts, unfortunately, it turned out to be downhill all the way. My gorgeous little 15 year old rescue dog has been unwell, so we will be saying the final goodbye on Monday (sooner, if she gets worse and needs the emergency vet). Heard this afternoon that my 98 year old Mum has Covid, she has survived it once before, so keeping everything crossed. It's just a waiting game at the moment. Oh ffs Tilly, I'm so sorry. Hope you're doing okay and hope your mum fends it off a second time - every reason to be very confident given she'll have the antibodies from beating it first time round. Thinking of you and sending love and hugs
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Sept 11, 2022 6:31:56 GMT
FA worried about fans being disrespectful. Maybe they should worry about some owners
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 11, 2022 7:31:47 GMT
Sorry Tilly but that’s not true. People could choose to do what they wanted. The football bodies didn’t make it their business. I chose to do something else today, no problem. I hope you did something that you chose to do today and that you had a good day. 👍 UTG! Thank you for the positive thoughts, unfortunately, it turned out to be downhill all the way. My gorgeous little 15 year old rescue dog has been unwell, so we will be saying the final goodbye on Monday (sooner, if she gets worse and needs the emergency vet). Heard this afternoon that my 98 year old Mum has Covid, she has survived it once before, so keeping everything crossed. It's just a waiting game at the moment. I’m so sorry to hear that. I can understand it must be really upsetting atm. I hope your mum recovers and sees it off and that you’re able to comfort the dog as much as possible. Amongst all this I hope you’re continuing to recover. Best wishes, Tilly. UTG!
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Post by legas on Sept 11, 2022 8:50:51 GMT
I don’t want to sound cold and practical at this sad time, but it would be helpful if the FA and EFL make some announcement now about the fixtures for the next 10 days so that we can all plan ahead. With the funeral announced for a week on Monday does that affect next weekend’s games (or maybe just the London ones taking into account public transport pressure)? And what about this coming midweek? I see champions league games are already set to go ahead.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Sept 11, 2022 11:02:27 GMT
I don’t want to sound cold and practical at this sad time, but it would be helpful if the FA and EFL make some announcement now about the fixtures for the next 10 days so that we can all plan ahead. With the funeral announced for a week on Monday does that affect next weekend’s games (or maybe just the London ones taking into account public transport pressure)? And what about this coming midweek? I see champions league games are already set to go ahead. Fixtures next weekend are Fri, Sat, Sun so don't expect any changes. If there was a Monday game I would have thought they would have brought it forward. Wouldn't it be nice if they were all 3pm Saturday
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