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Post by scdave on Sept 26, 2022 21:45:43 GMT
During my time on the SC committee, as social chair, we worked closely with Trish, Ian and Rob mutually promoting FC and SC events.
I know it is a different world, but back then Trish would arrange for the SC committee meetings to co-incide with the local referees meetings and the local weight watchers meetings etc to keep staff costs down. Even the stadium cleaners worked from 5.30 to 7 so they would be around for happy hour. It was not unusual for 50 or so people to watch a Monday night game live on sky.
This season, I have only heard of the CT events being run and have heard that the SC and History Group have been told to pay room hire to enable them to use the stadium.
In my day we were told the stadium has to be used 24/7. Quite often there were 7-8 evening events a month, plus football matches, rugby, reserve games, sky tv nights and bookings from other sources such as the likes of the referees and weight watchers, charity events etc. Now it seems the stadium is used one day every 7 for football and that is it.
I used to try and promote events on the forum, but I have not heard anything about the World Cup or Christmas parties and I know that posts have enquired about them.
While things like the chicken and a basket meals with pub singer entertainment were looked down upon by some supporters, the nights themselves were generally near sell outs and importantly brought money into the stadium from non football or rugby fans (other revenue streams). It may not have earned huge amounts of money, but if all of these events are profitable, why are the club not actively looking to help raise as much money as it can?
There were even resident skittles teams at the Mem, but the club have got rid of the alley - just as other pubs and venues have closed so teams are looking for new homes.
The passing of Steve Slade made me think that we did really make a difference during the early Sharescheme period and it was recognised by the likes of Ron, Geoff and Colin etc.
I just don't get why the club aren't actively trying to get the stadium used more and earn more money.
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Post by bs10er on Sept 26, 2022 22:02:55 GMT
Think we all would agree with you Dave.
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Post by The Equaliser on Sept 27, 2022 5:01:39 GMT
Do any of those you mention still watch the team regularly?
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Post by herbertblake on Sept 27, 2022 6:00:01 GMT
The Brsc I believe wanted to host a football memorabilia and programme fair which was a regular annual event organised by the late ex Rovers CEO Gordon Bennett but room hire has made it prohibitive.
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Post by mftc on Sept 27, 2022 6:43:48 GMT
I'm sure if the had a open forum evening with Joey Barton and charged £2 with the monies going to Nick Anderton, it would be very popular.
There are lots of opportunities and I suspect volunteers to organize things, so why do the club have to have such prohibitive room hire costs.
The bar takings would cover the staffing, heating, lighting, cleaning costs etc, plus the support organisations make a profit from the event which is given to the club anyway.
Is it so professional to put off people from trying to be empowered to make some money for the club?
Let's face it the club is losing big money and not helping itself (lack of programmes with almost guaranteed sales is just one example).
If the SC, YP, Helpline, Former Players Association, Tote End Boys and Presidents Club can all make a profit from events why doesn't the club help them to help themselves?
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 27, 2022 8:29:30 GMT
I'm sure if the had a open forum evening with Joey Barton and charged £2 with the monies going to Nick Anderton, it would be very popular. There are lots of opportunities and I suspect volunteers to organize things, so why do the club have to have such prohibitive room hire costs. The bar takings would cover the staffing, heating, lighting, cleaning costs etc, plus the support organisations make a profit from the event which is given to the club anyway. Is it so professional to put off people from trying to be empowered to make some money for the club? Let's face it the club is losing big money and not helping itself (lack of programmes with almost guaranteed sales is just one example). If the SC, YP, Helpline, Former Players Association, Tote End Boys and Presidents Club can all make a profit from events why doesn't the club help them to help themselves? Tom isnt a mug and will look at everything at a cost perspective and perhaps, just perhaps, it isnt going to make the club any money? When was the latest presumed/expected P&L calculated for any of the above events? Surely some assumed idea could be given on past events, even if you add the cost of the room hire afterwards. Tom isnt deliberately unkind either, so as much as you think he or the club might be difficult, there is probably a very good reason for not being as concillitory as you want him to be.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 10:04:17 GMT
Do any of those you mention still watch the team regularly? Ron, Geoff and Sladey have all sadly passed away and Colin has a hospitality box.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Sept 27, 2022 11:32:13 GMT
Have to agree strongly with the sentiments expressed by SCDAVE. All the mentioned events and many other such activities help to promote the club as part of the wider community in Bristol and can only help in keeping Rovers in the public eye. It is a win/win if said events also generate a profit for the club, but even if said events only manage to cover costs there are still positives to be taken from the good p/r they generate, not all benefits can be measured purely in financial terms. The possibilities are endless imho, just needs someone with imagination and drive to get it on.
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Post by The Equaliser on Sept 27, 2022 11:40:15 GMT
Do any of those you mention still watch the team regularly? Ron, Geoff and Sladey have all sadly passed away and Colin has a hospitality box. Thanks, however I was referring to the op, Ian, Trish,Rob? also I haven’t seen Ken Masters, Jim Chappell, Steve Burns, BSS etc, do they still attend regular? Thanks
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Post by herbertblake on Sept 27, 2022 14:13:16 GMT
The annual Rovers former players association dinner next month is being held at Gloucestershire County cricket club instead of the Mem. But I am told it was because venue is bigger to accommodate more guests and less expensive to hire. That's a big event which Rovers have lost as well as creditability in my opinion.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Sept 27, 2022 14:18:22 GMT
The annual Rovers former players association dinner next month is being held at Gloucestershire County cricket club instead of the Mem. But I am told it was because venue is bigger to accommodate more guests and less expensive to hire. That's a big event which Rovers have lost as well as creditability in my opinion. Shameful
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Post by bidefordgas on Sept 27, 2022 14:27:48 GMT
The annual Rovers former players association dinner next month is being held at Gloucestershire County cricket club instead of the Mem. But I am told it was because venue is bigger to accommodate more guests and less expensive to hire. That's a big event which Rovers have lost as well as creditability in my opinion. You omit to mention all the facilities at the cricket club are run by seat unique, the very same company that runs hospitality at the Mem. Perhaps the larger venue is more cost effective for the former players association.
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Post by gasheadontour on Sept 27, 2022 14:31:51 GMT
The Brsc I believe wanted to host a football memorabilia and programme fair which was a regular annual event organised by the late ex Rovers CEO Gordon Bennett but room hire has made it prohibitive. During the summer I noticed his programme collection was for sale in a 2nd hand shop.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 27, 2022 14:32:50 GMT
To G1981s point - revenue is not the same as profit and while we might have been drawing in sales it might not have been enough to justify the staffing costs of opening the Mem out of hours and running events.
I think we have to assume that’s the case else it would be low hanging fruit that the club is missing out on.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 27, 2022 14:34:05 GMT
The Brsc I believe wanted to host a football memorabilia and programme fair which was a regular annual event organised by the late ex Rovers CEO Gordon Bennett but room hire has made it prohibitive. Is there really that much interest in old football programmes?
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Post by bidefordgas on Sept 27, 2022 14:41:43 GMT
The annual Rovers former players association dinner next month is being held at Gloucestershire County cricket club instead of the Mem. But I am told it was because venue is bigger to accommodate more guests and less expensive to hire. That's a big event which Rovers have lost as well as creditability in my opinion. You omit to mention all the facilities at the cricket club are run by seat unique, the very same company that runs hospitality at the Mem. Perhaps the larger venue is more cost effective for the former players association. A little bit more research has revealed that the event is being attended by 32 ex players, our first team squad and backroom staff as well as tables available to all and sundry. I think that confirms that the suite at the Mem is not large enough to host the event.
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Post by The Equaliser on Sept 27, 2022 15:57:10 GMT
The annual Rovers former players association dinner next month is being held at Gloucestershire County cricket club instead of the Mem. But I am told it was because venue is bigger to accommodate more guests and less expensive to hire. That's a big event which Rovers have lost as well as creditability in my opinion. Shameful To be fair unless you know the exact ins and outs of this you can’t call it shameful, what if it would have lost money/wasn’t cost effective and GCC Club was?
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Sept 27, 2022 16:58:26 GMT
To be fair unless you know the exact ins and outs of this you can’t call it shameful, what if it would have lost money/wasn’t cost effective and GCC Club was? To not welcome former players is shameful. Not everything should be about cost and this should be one of them
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 27, 2022 17:40:36 GMT
You omit to mention all the facilities at the cricket club are run by seat unique, the very same company that runs hospitality at the Mem. Perhaps the larger venue is more cost effective for the former players association. A little bit more research has revealed that the event is being attended by 32 ex players, our first team squad and backroom staff as well as tables available to all and sundry. I think that confirms that the suite at the Mem is not large enough to host the event. could they not have used the fan zone for the night?
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Post by baggins on Sept 27, 2022 17:45:12 GMT
To be fair unless you know the exact ins and outs of this you can’t call it shameful, what if it would have lost money/wasn’t cost effective and GCC Club was? To not welcome former players is shameful. Not everything should be about cost and this should be one of them You do know the Country is in the toilet and everything is about cost right?
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