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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 15, 2023 11:23:00 GMT
Am I misunderstanding what you’re saying? Are you saying that only Connolly and McCormick (arguably 2 of our worst performers this season) are going to be the ones that form a nucleus for next seasons squad and that everyone else is going to gone ? I see the misunderstanding. When talking about a nucleus to the side, I see that as the perm members, not loan signings. The increase in nucleus between last year and this year are the players that people are questioning, so I am not sure we have a good nucleus for next season. I think we have a great team for this season, a couple of tweaks in this Jan window to sure up the defence then I think we will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season. If Collins leaves then surely JB will be given the funds to find a suitable replacement? Plus what about Belshaw, Hoole (who'll be a year older) like wise Gordon, plus Finley and Evans, and most likely Sinclair? Grant? Anderson? It's easier to list the players who are likely to move on Coutts, Whelan, Marquis and possibly Loft plus Gibson (if he doesn't sign permanently) and Coburn. The major issue next summer is we could need an entirely new front line.
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 15, 2023 11:43:52 GMT
Some proper joyful Sunday motivation floating about this morning😂😂 Yes watching brentford versus Bournemouth didn't cheer me up,its like everyone we used to play has left us miles behind,very depressing. Tbf for every Brentford and Bournemouth, there's a Notts County, Oldham, Southend and Stockport. Brentford & Bournemouth have also overtook the likes of Sunderland, Sheffield Wednesday, Derby etc as well. I wouldn't get too depressed about it.
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Post by keygas on Jan 15, 2023 11:51:09 GMT
Some proper joyful Sunday motivation floating about this morning😂😂 Yes watching brentford versus Bournemouth didn't cheer me up,its like everyone we used to play has left us miles behind,very depressing. To be honest it doesn’t make me depressed, it give’s me hope that with the right infrastructure, people could be saying the same about us one day.
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Post by clockendgas on Jan 15, 2023 11:58:42 GMT
Yes watching brentford versus Bournemouth didn't cheer me up,its like everyone we used to play has left us miles behind,very depressing. if only we could be playing those top flight teams miles ahead of us like ipswich portsmouth wednesday derby charlton barnsley. Whilst I understand people comments about other teams on the decline,at least they have been there and done it,we have been nowhere near division one since about 75,even the Ted's managed three seasons in the top division,a and sadly I don't think we will ever see it.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 15, 2023 12:28:16 GMT
the hyenas will be out in their litle pack tonight A couple keep saying that but I have only seen one
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 15, 2023 12:43:52 GMT
Dreadful performances over the past fortnight from our little club have sent dreams crashing. Still, probably to be expected of our club. UTG. Something is not right. Wael not been to a game in a quarter of a year, strange team selections and battle cries only to put out a skeleton team. Wael, please get back and talk with the manager. Could still be ok but needs strong leadership and some redressing of certain positions plus new and better players
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 15, 2023 12:45:57 GMT
You’re taking Collins out of the “nucleus” of next years team? Despite him being under a long contract and having said he’s happy here? Seems based on nothing more than a convenient hunch. Yes. Exactly. I will bet you a two pint glass of Thatchers at the opening game of next season that he will not be a Rovers player at that point. Will you take that bet? I will if he won’t
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Post by GasAttacK on Jan 15, 2023 12:56:46 GMT
Really poor performance. Accrington are one of the worst sides we've played this season but we never looked like scoring. Yes, their first goal might have been disallowed, but they could easily have been at least 1 up at half time. Another long punt forward by the keeper left their striker running through on goal, and he really should have scored.
Honest question, how many players do you think are having a great season?
For me, it's only Collins and Coburn, and it's almost entirely down to them we're in the top half. I'm not sure how many others are L1 standard. If we only had Marquis, Loft, and Saunders up front I'm sure we'd be in the bottom 4. With exception of Collins, Coburn, and possibly Rossiter, I don't think any player warrants more than 6/10 for their season performance so far.
Lots of work to be done in the January window to achieve a top half finish in my opinion.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 15, 2023 13:06:29 GMT
Really poor performance. Accrington are one of the worst sides we've played this season but we never looked like scoring. Yes, their first goal might have been disallowed, but they could easily have been at least 1 up at half time. Another long punt forward by the keeper left their striker running through on goal, and he really should have scored. Honest question, how many players do you think are having a great season? For me, it's only Collins and Coburn, and it's almost entirely down to them we're in the top half. I'm not sure how many others are L1 standard. If we only had Marquis, Loft, and Saunders up front I'm sure we'd be in the bottom 4. With exception of Collins, Coburn, and possibly Rossiter, I don't any player warrants more than 6/10 for their season performance so far. Lots of work to be done in the January window to achieve a top half finish in my opinion. I think a lot expected us to replicate last season and I think that unrealistic. We now see what can happen with loan players and we really need more who are our own. Lots of work to be done.
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Post by baggins on Jan 15, 2023 13:07:58 GMT
Dreadful performances over the past fortnight from our little club have sent dreams crashing. Still, probably to be expected of our club. UTG. Something is not right. Wael not been to a game in a quarter of a year, strange team selections and battle cries only to put out a skeleton team. Wael, please get back and talk with the manager. Could still be ok but needs strong leadership and some redressing of certain positions plus new and better players 3 months? Not sure that's right. As has been mentioned, Wael went away with his Family after Christmas and I'm pretty sure he's been in contact with JB during that time, especially regarding signings.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 15, 2023 13:12:26 GMT
Something is not right. Wael not been to a game in a quarter of a year, strange team selections and battle cries only to put out a skeleton team. Wael, please get back and talk with the manager. Could still be ok but needs strong leadership and some redressing of certain positions plus new and better players 3 months? Not sure that's right. As has been mentioned, Wael went away with his Family after Christmas and I'm pretty sure he's been in contact with JB during that time, especially regarding signings. I am just quoting what others have said. Yes, he would use computer to stay in touch but it’s not a great message when the owner doesn’t see a game, live. There was a time you could not keep him away. Just worried he may be losing a bit of love is all. We totally rely on him
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Post by baggins on Jan 15, 2023 13:17:01 GMT
3 months? Not sure that's right. As has been mentioned, Wael went away with his Family after Christmas and I'm pretty sure he's been in contact with JB during that time, especially regarding signings. I am just quoting what others have said. Yes, he would use computer to stay in touch but it’s not a great message when the owner doesn’t see a game, live. There was a time you could not keep him away. Just worried he may be losing a bit of love is all. We totally rely on him He's still as fanatical about the Rovers as he ever was. So he misses a few games due to other commitments, not a problem.
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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 15, 2023 13:19:52 GMT
Pretty sure the gaffer said he speaks to Wael all the time, I think after a loss a few people are creating a narrative with no substance.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 15, 2023 13:20:56 GMT
I am just quoting what others have said. Yes, he would use computer to stay in touch but it’s not a great message when the owner doesn’t see a game, live. There was a time you could not keep him away. Just worried he may be losing a bit of love is all. We totally rely on him He's still as fanatical about the Rovers as he ever was. So he misses a few games due to other commitments, not a problem. Anything from the club about Barton walking off ? I am probably making too much of this. Just worried something has changed is all
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 15, 2023 13:22:15 GMT
Pretty sure the gaffer said he speaks to Wael all the time, I think after a loss a few people are creating a narrative with no substance. But seeing the boss at a game is uplifting. Certainly sends a message
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Post by pirate on Jan 15, 2023 13:23:01 GMT
I am just quoting what others have said. Yes, he would use computer to stay in touch but it’s not a great message when the owner doesn’t see a game, live. There was a time you could not keep him away. Just worried he may be losing a bit of love is all. We totally rely on him He's still as fanatical about the Rovers as he ever was. So he misses a few games due to other commitments, not a problem. Presumably he would have been just as "fanatical" about Gillingham if Scallywag had accepted his offer for them as they were the first club he tried to buy.
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Post by baggins on Jan 15, 2023 13:25:00 GMT
He's still as fanatical about the Rovers as he ever was. So he misses a few games due to other commitments, not a problem. Presumably he would have been just as "fanatical" about Gillingham if Scallyway had accepted his offer for them as they were the first club he tried to buy. Probably, but he didn't. He now owns us and is just as passionate about that as he ever was.
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Post by pirate on Jan 15, 2023 13:25:31 GMT
Presumably he would have been just as "fanatical" about Gillingham if Scallyway had accepted his offer for them as they were the first club he tried to buy. Probably, but he didn't. He now owns us and is just as passionate about that as he ever was. I hope you're right.
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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 15, 2023 13:29:46 GMT
Pretty sure the gaffer said he speaks to Wael all the time, I think after a loss a few people are creating a narrative with no substance. But seeing the boss at a game is uplifting. Certainly sends a message He lives and works in Jordan, not Fishponds!
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Post by gasify on Jan 15, 2023 13:31:04 GMT
I see the misunderstanding. When talking about a nucleus to the side, I see that as the perm members, not loan signings. The increase in nucleus between last year and this year are the players that people are questioning, so I am not sure we have a good nucleus for next season. I think we have a great team for this season, a couple of tweaks in this Jan window to sure up the defence then I think we will be there or thereabouts at the end of the season. If Collins leaves then surely JB will be given the funds to find a suitable replacement? Plus what about Belshaw, Hoole (who'll be a year older) like wise Gordon, plus Finley and Evans, and most likely Sinclair? Grant? Anderson? It's easier to list the players who are likely to move on Coutts, Whelan, Marquis and possibly Loft plus Gibson (if he doesn't sign permanently) and Coburn. The major issue next summer is we could need an entirely new front line. Exactly, which is why we need to go for it this season. We will have a better chance of retaining that front line if we got promoted. I'm not sure Loft will move on. He hit a streak of brilliance before he got injured. Is playing more like last season though at the moment. He will come good. Hoole will be off. He has been a massive positive (though if you listen to some fans, we should get rid of him). I think he is good enough for championship football and someone will come in for him over the summer. Grant and Anderson have their injury problems. Both too injured at the moment to be considered part of the nucleus. If Anderson doesn't come back for a run in the first team this season then we should get rid. Same with Grant. I do enjoy watching Grants enthusiasm when he has played. As for JB being given funds to find a suitable replacement. That is always easier said than done mind. Think of the pre and post JCH days. We didn't have a particularly good front line before he joined us. He was a one man battering ram and goal machine when he was with us and when he left, we struggled to replace his goals (even though we got £2m?, £1.25 on signing? for him).
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