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Post by bluegas on Jan 22, 2023 9:19:44 GMT
As I previously said friend of mine was at the AGM he saw no one being asked to leave time for this thread to be closed In which case someone who has been extremely critical of the club's owner for some years is being, er, economic with the truth. Is that not of interest?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 22, 2023 9:21:10 GMT
You clearly don't know that for certain so why post it? Assuming JM was sat in the room then how does he know if CG stopped somebody from entering the meeting room? If he did then don't you find it a bit disconcerting Wael is stopping a shareholder from attending the AGM without any explanation from the club? If this didn't happen then we know for certain that Swissgas has a grudge against Wael, or at least is being used by someone who does. How do you know that he clearly doesn’t know ? Even JM didn't know and he attended the meeting, see his past post on the other forum: "I have read Swiss's PM and I am cross that he has sent it to me putting me in an impossible position and have told him so. I am very annoyed that he has done this and have suggested that he put it in the public domain, pointing out that he only has one side of the story. For the record he hasn't named names. It is so stupid because in the end the truth will out, so why not get on with it?" I've no idea why this thread was started by the OP when he's already created a ruckus on the other forum and it's far from clear what went on at the AGM.
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Post by lympstonegas on Jan 22, 2023 9:27:11 GMT
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 22, 2023 9:31:24 GMT
Swiss has written to John malt whiskey so maybe you should ask him now. Whatever your opinions of Swiss, he is no liar nor fantasist and he was part of the group who saved the club, you do him a great injustice by labelling him as you do. He may be a probacteur but he not a liar, even if some want to spin it that way Yes he has and is incandescent about it for the misrepresentation and Swiss spin that has been put on it. I do hold a certain opinion of Swiss and this is exactly why I hold that opinion. He doesn’t play with a straight bat and has a manipulative style of conveying information and not for the positive either, in fact I’m finding it hard to recall a positive post or thread from him. Swiss is the master of his own downfall I’m afraid, he assumes we are all dumb enough to believe his own deception and if he or even you for that matter, has a disjointed nose that his half baked truths to be picked apart then that’s your own look out. The fact he played a small part about 40 years ago in helping the club does not give him carte Blanche to discredit and smear the current owner with lies and deception. He’s absolutely no messiah to me or a good few others in fact he his almost apostatising what he once held dear. I have to question why he, and the others that mix with him on Internet forums hates Wael so much? Do they hate the fact it’s because he isn’t a Bristolian? Or more than that the fact he is not English? There is no logical justification for his constant sniping so it must be something else.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 22, 2023 9:35:32 GMT
Was swissgas there ? Very very doubtful. As far as I can tell he likes to lob hand grenades from afar for fun & games . Lol! If being present was always needed to post on here or there there would be only a quarter of the posts there are!!😉 UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 22, 2023 9:39:37 GMT
Why add the last paragraph when similar comments have created a ruckus on the other forum, as I doubt Hamer, Masters and Chappell fell out with him because he wasn't English or a Bristolian?
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Post by yattongas on Jan 22, 2023 9:50:27 GMT
Was swissgas there ? Very very doubtful. As far as I can tell he likes to lob hand grenades from afar for fun & games . Lol! If being present was always needed to post on here or there there would be only a quarter of the posts there are!!😉 UTG! True 😂
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Post by singupgas on Jan 22, 2023 9:52:51 GMT
There was no trouble at the AGM. Close thread. You clearly don't know that for certain so why post it? Assuming JM was sat in the room then how does he know if CG stopped somebody from entering the meeting room? If he did then don't you find it a bit disconcerting Wael is stopping a shareholder from attending the AGM without any explanation from the club? If this didn't happen then we know for certain that Swissgas has a grudge against Wael, or at least is being used by someone who does. I do because I'm in conversation with someone who was there.
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Post by madgas on Jan 22, 2023 9:54:00 GMT
Swiss- has had an anti Wael agenda since day. Got incredibly bored of his lectures on finance.
Perhaps its true but the poster enjoys football politics and never comments on football, matches/ signings or how sh** the sh** are.
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Post by DrFaustus on Jan 22, 2023 9:58:44 GMT
No longer post on there mate and having just read that shitfest of a thread, won't be rushing back. It's got embarrassing and not just that thread. Most (not all) of the posters find any excuse to slag the club, the owner and more so Joey, who they want to fail.
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Post by RD on Jan 22, 2023 10:13:23 GMT
Swiss should be banned IMO if proven to be peddling BS.
I've had my suspicions for a while, but this really should be the nail in the coffin if so. To those looking in, he is a sh*tstirrer and - if we didn't have proof to the contrary - one would assume he was a Ted given the constant anti-Wael narrative.
Time to put up or shut up.
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Post by bluegas on Jan 22, 2023 10:19:51 GMT
Swiss should be banned IMO if proven to be peddling BS. I've had my suspicions for a while, but this really should be the nail in the coffin if so. To those looking in, he is a sh*tstirrer and - if we didn't have proof to the contrary - one would assume he was a Ted given the constant anti-Wael narrative. Time to put up or shut up. I completely agree with you except that I wouldn't ban him. That would be the martyrdom he'd relish. And his diatribes do amuse me - so carefully thought out and worded, yet so wide of the mark.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 22, 2023 10:24:48 GMT
I don't think anyone should be banned! Freedom of speech and all that..
If you don't like the poster or dislike the posts, you can block him/her/inbetween yourself.....or just not read them or turn over to a different thread or forum.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 22, 2023 10:42:12 GMT
Swiss- has had an anti Wael agenda since day. Got incredibly bored of his lectures on finance. Perhaps its true but the poster enjoys football politics and never comments on football, matches/ signings or how sh** the sh** are. Since day? Not since day one, no one has. Since 3rd August 2017 maybe, and to be fair I find it hard to understand how more people aren’t questioning WAQs behaviour then, since and now. Al Qadi gets a very easy ride from the fan base and what’s more anyone that doesn’t give him an easy ride is attacked and accused of being either a racist a shithead or both!
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 22, 2023 10:50:46 GMT
Why add the last paragraph when similar comments have created a ruckus on the other forum, as I doubt Hamer, Masters and Chappell fell out with him because he wasn't English or a Bristolian? To answer both your posts in one. Because I simply want to dig out the motivation for the constant vilification, sniping, misrepresentative posts that do border on lying. I’ve constantly asked why, because on the face of it, Waels ownership is the best we’ve ever had, certainly from a secure financial perspective and definitely from a footballing investment perspective. He has achieved more in 7 years than boards have achieved in 30. He’s built assets where others have had to sell assets to keep us going. The stadium is the elephant in the room but if Wael delivers it by the time he sells us then we look back on his tenure as doing what no others could do. If there is no good reason from a material and business perspective it must wholly be personal and that Swiss and a few others don’t like him for who or what he may be. If that’s the case, why not just say so? I’m not saying Wael is above criticism or questioning, of course he isn’t, and I don’t agree with everything that’s done or said either, but you must be fair of both criticism and appreciation in equal measure.
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Post by The Equaliser on Jan 22, 2023 10:53:47 GMT
Lies or misinformation, and conspiracy theories are not free speech.
They are fraud and agenda driven by the perpetrator in my opinion.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 22, 2023 10:57:47 GMT
I don't think anyone should be banned! Freedom of speech and all that.. If you don't like the poster or dislike the posts, you can block him/her/inbetween yourself.....or just not read them or turn over to a different thread or forum. Who said that ? 🫣
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Post by Quarters on Jan 22, 2023 11:08:28 GMT
At the moment it cannot be proven he was right or wrong.
Just because some are Wenger like saying I did not see the incident proves nothing. Neither someone not there but quoting others does not prove it did happen.
Only the person supposedly involved can shed light on what happened.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jan 22, 2023 11:25:31 GMT
No longer post on there mate and having just read that shitfest of a thread, won't be rushing back. It's got embarrassing and not just that thread. Most (not all) of the posters find any excuse to slag the club, the owner and more so Joey, who they want to fail. Spot on! It’s numbers are diminishing rapidly- good riddance imo 💙utg
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 22, 2023 11:34:35 GMT
At the moment it cannot be proven he was right or wrong. Just because some are Wenger like saying I did not see the incident proves nothing. Neither someone not there but quoting others does not prove it did happen. Only the person supposedly involved can shed light on what happened. Therin lies the problem. You can make up any old sh** and if it cant be proven or disproven you can get away with it.
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