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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 12, 2023 10:34:44 GMT
Incorrect Bideford. I know exactly why HTE disappeared and it had nothing to do with what was going on on the pitch and I’ve no idea why you have decided to target him. HTE had basically had enough of modding this place and dealing with some of the pricks, I mean personalities that frequent this board. It’s not the first time he stepped aside and stopped posting for a while either because he felt hounded out. HTE is as free to come and go as he pleases for whatever reason he so pleases but one thing I do know about him is that he isn’t as fickle to come back based on a few poor results just to throw some mud about, he has slightly more intelligence than that. Just… Wrong 81! I am not targeting Hugo who I know personally from FFSC sponsored events etc I am also aware of why he left and the arguments surrounding his withdrawal from the forum which centred around similar circumstances to what is happening now. Indeed as you know I left the forum quite sometime ago when I was accused of being a bully boy for defending our manager from attacks by the anti Barton brigade. A few losses and they have suddenly reappeared. They are obviously entitled to their opinions as I hope I also am. However as far as I am concerned supporters wishing our club loses matches and even get relegated just to get rid of JB is astounding! I thought supporters, support the club no matter who is in charge, plays for them etc etc. I have done this for 66 years next month since I was seven years old and never once wanted Rovers to lose. By the way your comments about “pricks frequenting this board” are not what I would expect from a moderator and certainly way over the top of anything I have said in this recent debate. Why not look at when I actually returned to posting Dave? It actually came off the back of a decent run of form where we had only lost a couple of games. It also directly linked, as I've already said, to Tillys positive update on her health. She is one of only a handful of people I have stayed in any contact with during my absence. I've not just crawled out of the woodwork because we are doing poorly and that accusation has really disappointed me. I have been consistent in my condemnation of Barton regardless of results. I have met talked with other friends from the FFSC, the forum and just mates and they would attest that I have steadfastly maintained my position. Even during last seasons run-in I still wanted Barton gone. I would also state for the record that, as others have said, I do belive there are people who have felt they have been hounded out, harassed and bullied because they do not conform to the norm on this forum. It was an accusation that was sometimes made when I was a Mod and I don't think I fully appreciated it despite my attempts to always be as fair and impartial as I could. I have felt this way because of my stance on our manager. I do not think supporters should support the manager, no matter who is in charge or players who wear the shirt. Another poster has already mentioned how fans have wanted other managers sacked in the past. Were they wrong? Likewise there are players past and present that I definitely would not support if they were brought in to the club. Woking for Bristol Rovers is not an instant get out of jail free card for me.
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Post by GasHeadBlues on Feb 12, 2023 10:37:38 GMT
Incorrect Bideford. I know exactly why HTE disappeared and it had nothing to do with what was going on on the pitch and I’ve no idea why you have decided to target him. HTE had basically had enough of modding this place and dealing with some of the pricks, I mean personalities that frequent this board. It’s not the first time he stepped aside and stopped posting for a while either because he felt hounded out. HTE is as free to come and go as he pleases for whatever reason he so pleases but one thing I do know about him is that he isn’t as fickle to come back based on a few poor results just to throw some mud about, he has slightly more intelligence than that. Just… Bullies gonna bully mate, plain and simple. I made a completely innocent post about the state of our defence a couple of weeks ago and immediately had 1 of the usual 2 hounding me in identical fashion to the way they are treating Hugo now. Since you have named me in a subsequent post I would like to clarify that at no point have I made any comment either directly to or about Hugo. For the record I fully respect him and his position regarding Barton. A few weeks ago I commented on the fact that you hadn't posted on our good form but were quick to comment as soon as we lost. I don't see that as bullying but you are free to interpret as you wish. Your vile attack in response included calling me a Pr1ck was horrible enough to be deleted by the moderators. I think you know all about bullying and how to play the victim card.
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Post by kampucheagas on Feb 12, 2023 11:11:22 GMT
Think we all need to calm down, calm down here!!
We realistically need 13 points from 16 games left
This division is pretty much of a muchness for me, anyone can beat anyone, we are in a poor vein of form, we need to go back to basics and grind out a draw or a scrappy win from somewhere
I think our current issues arise from poor recruitment in the defensive area, especially full backs, and teams have worked out how to get at us
As someone mentioned earlier, Gordon is poor, Anderson would be a better option
Gibson can’t come back quickly enough
I think in our current state I’d just go 4-4-2 and make us tough to break down.
Hopefully we can avoid defeat Tuesday and gain some confidence
We would have all taken a consolidation season this campaign, JB might not be everyone’s cup of tea (me included) but you can’t fault his commitment and passion
For that alone I’m willing to give him time, the players now need to prove they are good enough to keep us in the division
UTG
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 12, 2023 11:19:04 GMT
Surely by February that was JB's side, selection wise? When BG was dismissed we were winning at places like Lincoln and had just won at Walsall in the cup, can you honestly see this side going to a mid L2 side and winning at the moment? If losing Rossiter has destroyed the whole team then why didn't JB sign a like for like replacement in January if, has he claims, Wael was fully backing him and had money to spend? Joey says a lot and some you should take with a pinch of salt. Part of me thinks he sweet talks Wael in the press to keep him on side because he knows it will be difficult for him to get another management job after here because of his reputation, criminal record and certain fans' hatred of him in this country. He and Manghan really go out of their way to mention what a great owner we have. I may have mentioned this before, once or twice 🤣. You have just nailed it mate. So many got taken in by his talk of championship football and playing football the likes of hasn’t been seen, or words to that effect and yet these same people forget it’s rovers we are talking about. At least more people’s eyes are now being opened to the reality of Barton’s ability to talk a lot but not produce what he says
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2023 11:23:45 GMT
Massive knobber , but unfortunately, for some strange reason , I enjoy reading and exchanging posts with him ( sssh don’t tell him ) 😉
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 12, 2023 11:27:57 GMT
Fleetwood were a small club that just over a decade or so previous were playing in the North West Counties League. Part of it seemed a bit of a vanity project from the owner being able to attract a 'name' to the club (some would say similarfor Wael), higher level clubs don't need that nonsense and all the baggage that Barton brings. Pressure from fans and their opinions plays a huge part and I've seen some incredible vitriol online when Barton's name has been connected with roles at higher level clubs. The same type of vitriol our fans gave him for years? Exactly right and the irony being a mod here had some extremely nasty words about him prior to him coming here
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Post by Squiffy on Feb 12, 2023 11:29:10 GMT
Nathan Jones; misunderstood or out of his depth? Discuss. 😉
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Feb 12, 2023 11:38:13 GMT
The voice of reason, as always Bags!
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Post by oldie on Feb 12, 2023 11:40:02 GMT
Nathan Jones; misunderstood or out of his depth? Discuss. 😉 In what context? Replacement for Barton?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 12, 2023 11:41:14 GMT
Nathan Jones; misunderstood or out of his depth? Discuss. 😉 He's been gone too long.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Feb 12, 2023 11:46:09 GMT
Bullies gonna bully mate, plain and simple. I made a completely innocent post about the state of our defence a couple of weeks ago and immediately had 1 of the usual 2 hounding me in identical fashion to the way they are treating Hugo now. To be fair Hugo has said he can take it and he realises he has expressed an opinion that many are not happy with. I think Hugo is held in high regard here. It’s his opinion of the manager that some posters have issue with and I’m sure he understands that. I don't have an issue with Hugo's opinion of the manager, although I differ with him on this, I can understand why some people are not in favour of Barton being here. I don't like labelling people because they hold an opinion, one way for the other - it just causes more antagonism in my view, the "anti-Barton" or "Barton fan boys" stuff. We have different opinions, it's not gang warfare! Hugo broke his break of posting to congratulate me on beating cancer - which meant a lot to me. He has also kept in touch with me, encouraging me via PM. I hope that he does feel able to come on here more regularly and join in the discussions. He's as much a Gashead as any of us.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Feb 12, 2023 11:46:39 GMT
Nathan Jones; misunderstood or out of his depth? Discuss. 😉 He's been gone too long. Ban!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 12, 2023 12:02:00 GMT
Nathan Jones; misunderstood or out of his depth? Discuss. 😉 A strange appointment in the first place given the situation Southampton were in, and not really given a chance since. Expect him to do well in his next job if he chooses wisely.
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Post by trevorgas on Feb 12, 2023 12:14:50 GMT
We do love a good wallow!! But it's getting boring. The odd victory would be nice Can't disagree with that
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Post by rememberhalifax on Feb 12, 2023 12:45:27 GMT
Think we all need to calm down, calm down here!! We realistically need 13 points from 16 games left This division is pretty much of a muchness for me, anyone can beat anyone, we are in a poor vein of form, we need to go back to basics and grind out a draw or a scrappy win from somewhere I think our current issues arise from poor recruitment in the defensive area, especially full backs, and teams have worked out how to get at us As someone mentioned earlier, Gordon is poor, Anderson would be a better option Gibson can’t come back quickly enough I think in our current state I’d just go 4-4-2 and make us tough to break down. Hopefully we can avoid defeat Tuesday and gain some confidence We would have all taken a consolidation season this campaign, JB might not be everyone’s cup of tea (me included) but you can’t fault his commitment and passion For that alone I’m willing to give him time, the players now need to prove they are good enough to keep us in the division UTG Well said sir!
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Post by Colyton Gas on Feb 12, 2023 12:47:41 GMT
Nathan Jones; misunderstood or out of his depth? Discuss. 😉 . Was dreadful at Stoke too.Great at Luton though but IMO not a Prem Manager.Bit weird.Has tattoos on his body which he says the Bible instructs him to do wheras others quote the Book in the Old Testament of Leviticus which condemns Tattoos and Piercings. BG was a similar stats man with his graphs and flow charts.Think Saints will jettison and wouldn't be surprised if one day he returns to Luton.Admire the man but seems unhappy in his current role. Recall Paul Sturrock there being similarly out of his depth with players saying training involved lots of Press -Ups.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 12, 2023 12:50:34 GMT
The voice of reason, as always Bags! Good to inject some humour though Hugo, especially when a mod starts using foul and abusive language towards other members. Luckily I only have to read it if someone quotes as I blocked but I have to say, it does not befit any moderator to do this and really sets a very poor example to the forum, as a whole. To then rationalise it is beyond the pale. I could go much further but understood, a good while back, there is no point and I will let the universe deal with it. It seems that, by allowing this, the whole tone of the forum just gets worse as it is seen as acceptable. I do have to wonder why other mods do not do anything though. I am not here to be popular and accept differences of opinion but the particular “ mod” is the worst of the so called bully boys when he sets a target. Do you think it healthy ?
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Feb 12, 2023 12:56:07 GMT
Bullies gonna bully mate, plain and simple. I made a completely innocent post about the state of our defence a couple of weeks ago and immediately had 1 of the usual 2 hounding me in identical fashion to the way they are treating Hugo now. Since you have named me in a subsequent post I would like to clarify that at no point have I made any comment either directly to or about Hugo. For the record I fully respect him and his position regarding Barton. A few weeks ago I commented on the fact that you hadn't posted on our good form but were quick to comment as soon as we lost. I don't see that as bullying but you are free to interpret as you wish. Your vile attack in response included calling me a Pr1ck was horrible enough to be deleted by the moderators. I think you know all about bullying and how to play the victim card. I have met you 4 times and you have been nothing but a gentleman Kevin. Pay no attention as it doesn’t change anything. You know your worth as do those who know and have met with you
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Post by RD on Feb 12, 2023 13:04:52 GMT
Bullies gonna bully mate, plain and simple. I made a completely innocent post about the state of our defence a couple of weeks ago and immediately had 1 of the usual 2 hounding me in identical fashion to the way they are treating Hugo now. Since you have named me in a subsequent post I would like to clarify that at no point have I made any comment either directly to or about Hugo. For the record I fully respect him and his position regarding Barton. A few weeks ago I commented on the fact that you hadn't posted on our good form but were quick to comment as soon as we lost. I don't see that as bullying but you are free to interpret as you wish. Your vile attack in response included calling me a Pr1ck was horrible enough to be deleted by the moderators. I think you know all about bullying and how to play the victim card. Not at all. You attempted your usual bullying tripe and I called you out on it, pointing out you were a prick, which I stand by.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 12, 2023 13:09:10 GMT
Since you have named me in a subsequent post I would like to clarify that at no point have I made any comment either directly to or about Hugo. For the record I fully respect him and his position regarding Barton. A few weeks ago I commented on the fact that you hadn't posted on our good form but were quick to comment as soon as we lost. I don't see that as bullying but you are free to interpret as you wish. Your vile attack in response included calling me a Pr1ck was horrible enough to be deleted by the moderators. I think you know all about bullying and how to play the victim card. Not at all. You attempted your usual bullying tripe and I called you out on it, pointing out you were a prick, which I stand by. Nah, Kevs alright mate.
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