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Feb 13, 2023 18:07:39 GMT
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Post by aghast on Feb 13, 2023 18:07:39 GMT
Well when he puts it like that I'm with him. Although the 'armpit' photo was taken a fraction after the actual elbow that caused the silly dismissal.
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Post by percy on Feb 13, 2023 21:24:14 GMT
He needs to get off Twitter. Big game tomorrow and he’s arguing with everyone in sight 🤣
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 13, 2023 22:01:54 GMT
He needs to get off Twitter. Big game tomorrow and he’s arguing with everyone in sight 🤣 Surely he's doing it in his own time tonight, I doubt he's employed to work 24 hours a day by the club.
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Post by percy on Feb 13, 2023 22:06:04 GMT
He needs to get off Twitter. Big game tomorrow and he’s arguing with everyone in sight 🤣 Surely he's doing it in his own time tonight, I doubt he's employed to work 24 hours a day by the club. Did I say he was? Not sure he’s doing us any favours though. That’s all I care about.
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Feb 14, 2023 5:54:28 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 14, 2023 5:54:28 GMT
He needs to get off Twitter. Big game tomorrow and he’s arguing with everyone in sight 🤣 Surely he's doing it in his own time tonight, I doubt he's employed to work 24 hours a day by the club. But the manager and players do represent the club 24/7 though. If the "he can do what he likes in his own time" argument holds true why have so many players been sacked for off field transgressions? I'm not saying that's fair, but it is a fact of football life.
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Feb 14, 2023 6:14:59 GMT
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Post by oldie on Feb 14, 2023 6:14:59 GMT
Surely he's doing it in his own time tonight, I doubt he's employed to work 24 hours a day by the club. But the manager and players do represent the club 24/7 though. If the "he can do what he likes in his own time" argument holds true why have so many players been sacked for off field transgressions? I'm not saying that's fair, but it is a fact of football life. To not bring the organisation that employs you into disrepute is a standard employment contract clause.
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 14, 2023 6:41:30 GMT
Surely if anyone has an addiction and isn't trying to influence the outcome of games, treatment and help is required and not punishment? 🤷🏻♂️ Thing is, an addict will not recognise their own problem and getting help is extremely difficult for your average person. You only get help if you manage to recognise the problem and reach out, maybe he would not have been banned had he have taken this course of action, i agree by the way In my experience, addicts don’t respond to help, they respond to consequences. I got depressed /addicted about 8 years ago and it was the same with that, sympathy and understanding just helped me continue on the path and consequences (serious threat of them) made me change. People respond differently, I’m a big fan of tough love. It may not be for everyone but painful confrontation worked a lot better than someone sympathising as you wallow in addiction and self destructive behaviour. It’s extremely painful and brutal at first. Just my tuppanceworth. Carry on all.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 14, 2023 6:52:25 GMT
Surely he's doing it in his own time tonight, I doubt he's employed to work 24 hours a day by the club. But the manager and players do represent the club 24/7 though. If the "he can do what he likes in his own time" argument holds true why have so many players been sacked for off field transgressions? I'm not saying that's fair, but it is a fact of football life. How's JB bringing the club into dispute discussing poor refereeing decisions, who knows, perhaps he's already discussed this with Wael/TG and informed them of his intentions.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 14, 2023 6:54:13 GMT
But the manager and players do represent the club 24/7 though. If the "he can do what he likes in his own time" argument holds true why have so many players been sacked for off field transgressions? I'm not saying that's fair, but it is a fact of football life. To not bring the organisation that employs you into disrepute is a standard employment contract clause. How's JB bringing Rovers into dispute? If anything he's bringing the issues to a massive audience, as his Rovers Tweet as had over 1m views.
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Post by oldie on Feb 14, 2023 7:02:57 GMT
To not bring the organisation that employs you into disrepute is a standard employment contract clause. How's JB bringing Rovers into dispute? If anything he's bringing the issues to a massive audience, as his Rovers Tweet as had over 1m views. Looking at the bigger picture the abuse officials have to listen to is shocking. This feeds right down to grass roots sport where there is a growing shortage of match officials, something that threatens it's very existence. A manager of an L1 team expressing these views in public and on social media does nothing but "incite" such abuse, especially from the more simple minded who are likely to follow his words and actions. As an employer you wouldn't want your employee to be doing that, to be creating an image that the club you own embraces abuse. You just wouldn't, would you?
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Feb 14, 2023 7:12:24 GMT
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Post by percy on Feb 14, 2023 7:12:24 GMT
Don’t think anything he said yesterday would be classed as bringing the club into disrepute. There were a couple of his replies to people that were a bit cringe for a manager of a league club However the point is deflection. We’ve lost 4 games in a row not because of refs but because we have a squad that can’t defend! He needs to get us moving. A 2nd relegation will end his hopes of a move higher up anytime soon.
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Post by bluegas on Feb 14, 2023 8:34:54 GMT
How's JB bringing Rovers into dispute? If anything he's bringing the issues to a massive audience, as his Rovers Tweet as had over 1m views. Looking at the bigger picture the abuse officials have to listen to is shocking. This feeds right down to grass roots sport where there is a growing shortage of match officials, something that threatens it's very existence. A manager of an L1 team expressing these views in public and on social media does nothing but "incite" such abuse, especially from the more simple minded who are likely to follow his words and actions. As an employer you wouldn't want your employee to be doing that, to be creating an image that the club you own embraces abuse. You just wouldn't, would you? BBC Breakfast right now.
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Post by Quarters on Feb 14, 2023 8:41:08 GMT
Looking at the bigger picture the abuse officials have to listen to is shocking. This feeds right down to grass roots sport where there is a growing shortage of match officials, something that threatens it's very existence. A manager of an L1 team expressing these views in public and on social media does nothing but "incite" such abuse, especially from the more simple minded who are likely to follow his words and actions. As an employer you wouldn't want your employee to be doing that, to be creating an image that the club you own embraces abuse. You just wouldn't, would you? BBC Breakfast right now. Care to expand? Can't see tv at the moment.
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Feb 14, 2023 8:53:50 GMT
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Post by bluegas on Feb 14, 2023 8:53:50 GMT
Care to expand? Can't see tv at the moment. The abuse, verbal and physical, of referees is being discussed by a young referee, a veteran referee and Chris Sutton (who recently refereed a boys game). For the record the discussion didn't really get anywhere.
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 14, 2023 9:01:46 GMT
Care to expand? Can't see tv at the moment.
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Post by oldie on Feb 14, 2023 9:06:28 GMT
Care to expand? Can't see tv at the moment. Thank you Stuart Now all those that think that what Barton says and does in this regard is ok, even entertaining, can retreat to their neolithic caves.🙂
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Post by oldie on Feb 14, 2023 9:10:54 GMT
Thing is, an addict will not recognise their own problem and getting help is extremely difficult for your average person. You only get help if you manage to recognise the problem and reach out, maybe he would not have been banned had he have taken this course of action, i agree by the way In my experience, addicts don’t respond to help, they respond to consequences. I got depressed /addicted about 8 years ago and it was the same with that, sympathy and understanding just helped me continue on the path and consequences (serious threat of them) made me change. People respond differently, I’m a big fan of tough love. It may not be for everyone but painful confrontation worked a lot better than someone sympathising as you wallow in addiction and self destructive behaviour. It’s extremely painful and brutal at first. Just my tuppanceworth. Carry on all. Blimey We have a time traveller from the 19th century amongst us 😂😂😂
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Feb 14, 2023 9:30:44 GMT
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Post by peterparker on Feb 14, 2023 9:30:44 GMT
Talking about refs and refereeing decisions on twitter is one thing. Can debated whether that is useful or wise or not.
What is not wise is getting involved with people on twitter all around it. Needed to put his phone doen last night it seems
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Feb 14, 2023 9:36:42 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 14, 2023 9:36:42 GMT
Thank you Stuart Now all those that think that what Barton says and does in this regard is ok, even entertaining, can retreat to their neolithic caves.🙂 Maybe a team of referees should play a series of exhibition games with professional footballers and managers (or parents at grass roots level) as the officials to see what they see and hear. Or record the player's abuse and play back after the game. 🙉
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Feb 14, 2023 9:41:57 GMT
Thank you Stuart Now all those that think that what Barton says and does in this regard is ok, even entertaining, can retreat to their neolithic caves.🙂 These are the sort of comments that set people on the forum against each other, rather than a reasonable discussion.
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