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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2023 19:07:35 GMT
The whole Belshaw situation stinks of hypocrisy and Barton wanting to prove a point when Belly wasn’t the main defensive issue. Crying out for an experienced CB in Jan but chose Belly to be the fall guy. Balcombe is absolutely no improvement, so after 6 defeats of 7 very winnable games, I don’t blame the fan’s demonstrating their frustration to Barton this way tbh. The vent your frustration at Barton not Balcombe , Barton is picking the team , Baclombe didn’t ask to be first choice and shouting and chanting for Belly isn’t going to make Balcombe play any better is it ?
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Post by dudelebowski on Feb 18, 2023 19:08:07 GMT
“Faithful & true….
Until there’s a player I don’t want playing”
🙃🙃🙃
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Post by 84gas on Feb 18, 2023 19:08:14 GMT
The whole Belshaw situation stinks of hypocrisy and Barton wanting to prove a point when Belly wasn’t the main defensive issue. Crying out for an experienced CB in Jan but chose Belly to be the fall guy. Balcombe is absolutely no improvement, so after 6 defeats of 7 very winnable games, I don’t blame the fan’s demonstrating their frustration to Barton this way tbh. But which of those 6 defeats were Balcombes fault? He’s been poor, he was in lg 2 last season! Barton has personally fell out with Belly and will never back down now. But more than that it’s rocked the harmony of the dressing room and caused friction with the fans which we do not need and looks will send us down at this rate.
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Post by 84gas on Feb 18, 2023 19:09:17 GMT
The whole Belshaw situation stinks of hypocrisy and Barton wanting to prove a point when Belly wasn’t the main defensive issue. Crying out for an experienced CB in Jan but chose Belly to be the fall guy. Balcombe is absolutely no improvement, so after 6 defeats of 7 very winnable games, I don’t blame the fan’s demonstrating their frustration to Barton this way tbh. The vent your frustration at Barton not Balcombe , Barton is picking the team , Baclombe didn’t ask to be first choice and shouting and chanting for Belly isn’t going to make Balcombe play any better is it ? It’s an indirect way of doing so and I can understand it AFTER the game
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Feb 18, 2023 19:14:48 GMT
“Faithful & true…. Until there’s a player I don’t want playing” 🙃🙃🙃 So true ! 💙
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2023 19:15:57 GMT
Wankers , the lot of them , I called them out at the match and I’d do it again , they all think they’re so big and tough shouting sh** at him from the safety of the terraces , guarantee they wouldn’t do it in person !!! Like forumites who flap their mouth about blackthorn Enders. Doubt you’d walk up to them Billy big bollocks like you are here 😂 I don’t even stand on the blackthorn but I can understand why fans are annoyed that the replacement keeper looks if anything worse than the one we had before. Agree with above that it’s undermining the manager so best they stop it, but I don’t think it’s the crime of the century as some seem to be wetting their knickers about this. I didn’t walk up to anyone my friend , I said it to the twats around me who were dishing out the unnecessary verbals , far from ‘billy big bollocks’ as you so eloquently put it, but hey , I’m just a forumite flapping my mouth off who’s wetting their knickers over a crime of the century
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 18, 2023 19:24:18 GMT
Like forumites who flap their mouth about blackthorn Enders. Doubt you’d walk up to them Billy big bollocks like you are here 😂 I don’t even stand on the blackthorn but I can understand why fans are annoyed that the replacement keeper looks if anything worse than the one we had before. Agree with above that it’s undermining the manager so best they stop it, but I don’t think it’s the crime of the century as some seem to be wetting their knickers about this. I didn’t walk up to anyone my friend , I said it to the twats around me who were dishing out the unnecessary verbals , far from ‘billy big bollocks’ as you so eloquently put it, but hey , I’m just a forumite flapping my mouth off who’s wetting their knickers over a crime of the century Glad we’ve got that sorted out. This forum does have some very sensitive souls!
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Feb 18, 2023 19:26:21 GMT
Interesting. Means the thatchers end geniuses have created a confrontation now. Belshaw or Barton. They have picked Belshaw. Really? I bet most of those chanting for Belshaw would have been the ones chanting Super Joey Barton after Ipswich Agree, you've only got to have a quick look at the FB pages to see that.
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Post by singupgas on Feb 18, 2023 19:28:26 GMT
The Thatchers should do a better job getting behind the team as a whole. So quiet. No songs whatsoever.
As for Balcombe, unfortunately he doesn't look any better than Belshaw, kicks the ball off the pitch quite often and too many times punches or parries a ball unnecessarily.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Feb 18, 2023 19:31:37 GMT
I think you’re giving unwarranted and unusual protection to a player who has underperformed and cost the place of a player who has performed. Weird love in, he was awful today Being a goalkeeper is a unique position in the team, when they make a mistake it is very much on show, whereas outfield players often have a team mate who will mop it up, and it's quickly forgotten. He didn't ask to come here and take Belly's place, I would imagine that Belshaw probably cringes when he hears his name being chanted during the match. Belly has a strong bond with Annsi and Ward (goalkeepers' Union), and I would imagine that he's supportive to Balcome, as he's a decent bloke. JB is the one who has caused this, would have been fine to bring a young goalkeeper in as cover, but unfair to throw him into the spotlight in the midst of the unrest.
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Post by playtowin on Feb 18, 2023 19:34:23 GMT
Interesting. Means the thatchers end geniuses have created a confrontation now. Belshaw or Barton. They have picked Belshaw. Really? I bet most of those chanting for Belshaw would have been the ones chanting Super Joey Barton after Ipswich Quite possibly. They though have voiced their choice over the managers choice. So does the manager bow to the collective ? This then makes his position untenable.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 18, 2023 19:40:12 GMT
Pretty sure Balcombe knew he'd be taking Belshaw's place when he agreed to join Rovers, just why JB decided to replace Belshaw with Balcombe is a bit of a mystery, as he doesn't really look any better, no idea why he choose to punch balls into the box when it looked far to catch them and his kicking looks no better than Jaakola's
Our results are just as bad with Balcombe as they were with Belshaw in the side.
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 18, 2023 19:48:28 GMT
I think you’re giving unwarranted and unusual protection to a player who has underperformed and cost the place of a player who has performed. Weird love in, he was awful today Being a goalkeeper is a unique position in the team, when they make a mistake it is very much on show, whereas outfield players often have a team mate who will mop it up, and it's quickly forgotten. He didn't ask to come here and take Belly's place, I would imagine that Belshaw probably cringes when he hears his name being chanted during the match. Belly has a strong bond with Annsi and Ward (goalkeepers' Union), and I would imagine that he's supportive to Balcome, as he's a decent bloke. JB is the one who has caused this, would have been fine to bring a young goalkeeper in as cover, but unfair to throw him into the spotlight in the midst of the unrest. I doubt that very much. Belshaw is a pro goalkeeper in his 30s who was a fans favourite and has been unceremoniously dumped from the team for a Johnny come lately. My guess is as a professional footballer he wants to play, I doubt very much it’s a support group. It might be on the surface, but that’s not how competitive sport works. As for Balcombe, we have no idea if he’s a good bloke, an OK bloke or a total d1ck as none of us know him! Perhaps you have, I am willing to assume everyone is a good person but to suppose Belshaw is sat there empathising with the lesser skilled guy who took his job because he’s Good value in the pub is stretching things a bit when all we know are glimpses on social media, pretty hard to craft a soap opera narrative from things we don’t know anything about!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2023 20:05:10 GMT
I didn’t walk up to anyone my friend , I said it to the twats around me who were dishing out the unnecessary verbals , far from ‘billy big bollocks’ as you so eloquently put it, but hey , I’m just a forumite flapping my mouth off who’s wetting their knickers over a crime of the century Glad we’ve got that sorted out. This forum does have some very sensitive souls! 😂
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Feb 18, 2023 20:14:37 GMT
Sure the chanting isn’t going to help the side during the game but it was more of a dig at Barton than Balcombe after his public outburst on Tuesday telling all and sundry that Belshaw might never play for the club again.
Belshaw has had far more great games for us than he has bad and doesn’t deserve and nor is it helping the team that the Manager calls him out so publicly. It makes absolutely no sense that Balcombe gets in the team ahead of Belshaw. I can see why Belshaw would be upset that he does and has told the manager so.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Feb 18, 2023 20:53:42 GMT
Being a goalkeeper is a unique position in the team, when they make a mistake it is very much on show, whereas outfield players often have a team mate who will mop it up, and it's quickly forgotten. He didn't ask to come here and take Belly's place, I would imagine that Belshaw probably cringes when he hears his name being chanted during the match. Belly has a strong bond with Annsi and Ward (goalkeepers' Union), and I would imagine that he's supportive to Balcome, as he's a decent bloke. JB is the one who has caused this, would have been fine to bring a young goalkeeper in as cover, but unfair to throw him into the spotlight in the midst of the unrest. I doubt that very much. Belshaw is a pro goalkeeper in his 30s who was a fans favourite and has been unceremoniously dumped from the team for a Johnny come lately. My guess is as a professional footballer he wants to play, I doubt very much it’s a support group. It might be on the surface, but that’s not how competitive sport works. As for Balcombe, we have no idea if he’s a good bloke, an OK bloke or a total d1ck as none of us know him! Perhaps you have, I am willing to assume everyone is a good person but to suppose Belshaw is sat there empathising with the lesser skilled guy who took his job because he’s Good value in the pub is stretching things a bit when all we know are glimpses on social media, pretty hard to craft a soap opera narrative from things we don’t know anything about! I haven't said that Balcombe is a good bloke, or anything about somebody being good value in the pub. It is possible to be in competition with somebody, and still be supportive to them, my son's been in professional sport for 20 years, so I do have some experience of how things work.
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Post by percy on Feb 18, 2023 23:14:37 GMT
So those saying Barton had the backing of the fans (cos the blackthorn sang the Joey songs) now distancing themselves from the same fans. Careful who you associate with I guess! 🤣
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 18, 2023 23:22:55 GMT
I agree get behind the players on the pitch during the game. Vent your frustrations on forums and social media if you must. Barton will still hear you there
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Feb 18, 2023 23:52:03 GMT
So those saying Barton had the backing of the fans (cos the blackthorn sang the Joey songs) now distancing themselves from the same fans. Careful who you associate with I guess! 🤣 Two totally different things, just because somebody backs the manager it doesn't mean that they also have to agree with fans singing Belly's name today. People agree on some things, and disagree on others, we're not clones.
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Post by percy on Feb 18, 2023 23:54:24 GMT
So those saying Barton had the backing of the fans (cos the blackthorn sang the Joey songs) now distancing themselves from the same fans. Careful who you associate with I guess! 🤣 Two totally different things, just because somebody backs the manager it doesn't mean that they also have to agree with fans singing Belly's name today. People agree on some things, and disagree on others, we're not clones. Couldnt agree more. This forum sometimes only wants clones tho.
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