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Post by percy on Mar 11, 2023 13:10:08 GMT
Lineker is clever and cute enough to know that whilst his words were carefully chosen, the implication of those words would be taken to infer the connection. He has set a massive and disruptive hare running with this and he shouldn't have - IMHO. That's all I'm going to say on this now - we all know it divides opinion and no-one is likely to change their opinion based on an exchange on here. UTG - Looking forward to three points today. Quite right Rod. He is paid by a vast fortune by the BBC to talk about football end of story. His political views should be not preached to his vast numbers of followers on twitter, as far as I am concerned. I’m not interested in his thoughts, likewise anyone else on twitter including our own Manager.. We all have are own views on politics, the vast majority of us keep them to ourselves and have lived through many governments on both sides of the argument. Personally I have not been any better or worse off under any of them! That last line the absolute definition of privilege. Me neither but caring about others isn’t a political opinion he or anyone needs to keep to themselves because of his job
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 11, 2023 13:12:34 GMT
Quite right Rod. He is paid by a vast fortune by the BBC to talk about football end of story. His political views should be not preached to his vast numbers of followers on twitter, as far as I am concerned. I’m not interested in his thoughts, likewise anyone else on twitter including our own Manager.. We all have are own views on politics, the vast majority of us keep them to ourselves and have lived through many governments on both sides of the argument. Personally I have not been any better or worse off under any of them! So he's only allowed to post his opinion on Football? [b He is paid on a freelance contract by the BBC to talk about football not politics and has clearly crossed the line here. Personally not interested in any of his thoughts and that includes football.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 11, 2023 13:12:37 GMT
Why do people feel the need to throw words like "Gammon" and "Boomer" into the mix? For me it just devalues their point of view (Boomer here, in case you're wondering!)
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Post by percy on Mar 11, 2023 13:14:21 GMT
So he's only allowed to post his opinion on Football? [b He is paid on a freelance contract by the BBC to talk about football not politics and has clearly crossed the line here. Personally not interested in any of his thoughts and that includes football. So don’t follow him on Twitter or speak to him in the pub. He didn’t say it on match of the day
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Post by percy on Mar 11, 2023 13:15:19 GMT
Bbc view For context. Now anyone see what is different?
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Post by baggins on Mar 11, 2023 13:15:24 GMT
So he's only allowed to post his opinion on Football? [b He is paid on a freelance contract by the BBC to talk about football not politics and has clearly crossed the line here. Personally not interested in any of his thoughts and that includes football. He posted his opinion on his own personal account, nothing to do with the BBC, not sure he even referenced the BBC. You're getting very close to not agreeing with freedom of speach.
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 11, 2023 13:17:02 GMT
Quite right Rod. He is paid by a vast fortune by the BBC to talk about football end of story. His political views should be not preached to his vast numbers of followers on twitter, as far as I am concerned. I’m not interested in his thoughts, likewise anyone else on twitter including our own Manager.. We all have are own views on politics, the vast majority of us keep them to ourselves and have lived through many governments on both sides of the argument. Personally I have not been any better or worse off under any of them! Dont read twitter then. No one is forced to follow Gary Lineker. If you follow him, you know what you are getting Who is allowed to talk politics out of interest? Anyone ,unless it’s in their contract of employment not to do so. The bbc has clearly decided he has breached their contract, not the first or last in the public eye to do so.
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Post by axegas on Mar 11, 2023 13:17:25 GMT
So he's only allowed to post his opinion on Football? [b He is paid on a freelance contract by the BBC to talk about football not politics and has clearly crossed the line here. Personally not interested in any of his thoughts and that includes football. I must have missed the episode of MOTD when he went off on one about government policy. Do you remember which episode so I can go back and watch?
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Post by percy on Mar 11, 2023 13:19:07 GMT
Dont read twitter then. No one is forced to follow Gary Lineker. If you follow him, you know what you are getting Who is allowed to talk politics out of interest? Anyone ,unless it’s in their contract of employment not to do so. The bbc has clearly decided he has breached their contract, not the first or last in the public eye to do so. Do you believe that or is it suiting a point of view? Same not apply to sugar, O’Neil and Clarkson The BBC reply I posted above shows they have royally screwed this. The only difference is the pressure from the right wing press, non-Dom owning who will be loving how divisive this is as they carry on hoovering up all the money as people blame those with less than them.
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Post by baggins on Mar 11, 2023 13:20:18 GMT
Dont read twitter then. No one is forced to follow Gary Lineker. If you follow him, you know what you are getting Who is allowed to talk politics out of interest? Anyone ,unless it’s in their contract of employment not to do so. The bbc has clearly decided he has breached their contract, not the first or last in the public eye to do so. I think deep down we all know this has very little to do with his relationship with the BBC.
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Post by axegas on Mar 11, 2023 13:21:27 GMT
To me this issue is larger than Lineker or the nature of his views. You may agree or disagree with them that's beside the point.
Sports journalists shouldn't get taken off air for expressing views critical of the government on their personal twitter accounts, period. We live in a Western democracy not China or North Korea.
We rely on the BBC to be independent of government for impartial programming and when one presenter is taken off air for views critical towards the government and another is protected for views critical of the opposition, that independence is called into question.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 11, 2023 13:25:17 GMT
I don't think that the high rollers at the BBC thought this through very well.
Glad to see Rovers stance.
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Post by Baxtinho on Mar 11, 2023 13:25:19 GMT
Why do people feel the need to throw words like "Gammon" and "Boomer" into the mix? For me it just devalues their point of view (Boomer here, in case you're wondering!) Why do people feel the need to throw terms like "virtue signalling" or "woke" into the mix? (Not aimed at you specifically, but it works both ways)
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 11, 2023 13:26:32 GMT
Why do people feel the need to throw words like "Gammon" and "Boomer" into the mix? For me it just devalues their point of view (Boomer here, in case you're wondering!) Why do people feel the need to throw terms like "virtue signalling" or "woke" into the mix? (Not aimed at you specifically, but it works both ways) Agree - although I hadn't spotted those on this thread - all are lazy use of language in my view.
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Post by CrispPusher on Mar 11, 2023 13:48:57 GMT
Typical social media bandwagon jumping, not very professional and embarrassing to take it out on Radio Bristol. Yet another reason to dislike the Premier League. UTG
Where was the Qatar boycott? Morons
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Post by baggins on Mar 11, 2023 13:52:48 GMT
Typical social media bandwagon jumping, not very professional and embarrassing to take it out on Radio Bristol. Yet another reason to dislike the Premier League. UTG Where was the Qatar boycott? Morons I'm fairly sure Radio Bristol made their own mind up and took that decision and struggling to see the connection with the Premiership?
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Mar 11, 2023 13:54:01 GMT
Do I like Gary Lineker... Not particularly. Am I interested in what he says... No, not really. Do I believe in freedom of speech, absolutely! Double standards by the BBC. The fact that the head of the BBC was put there by leaders of our country, what next? Getting arrested for having an opinion that goes against our government. We should really stand all together on this...
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Post by Colyton Gas on Mar 11, 2023 13:55:00 GMT
BBC TV national news just reported that Bristol Rovers are not speaking to the BBC. We get more coverage when we don't speak than when we do ! When asked is it true the club were intending to announce a new 800,000 seater stand where the big tent is now,a spokesman said ,'We are currently not talking to the media and even if we were our new 100,000 million seater stand is covered by a confidentiality clause'.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Mar 11, 2023 13:56:06 GMT
To me this issue is larger than Lineker or the nature of his views. You may agree or disagree with them that's beside the point. Sports journalists shouldn't get taken off air for expressing views critical of the government on their personal twitter accounts, period. We live in a Western democracy not China or North Korea. We rely on the BBC to be independent of government for impartial programming and when one presenter is taken off air for views critical towards the government and another is protected for views critical of the opposition, that independence is called into question. Totally agree, you put this into words better than I did.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Mar 11, 2023 14:02:50 GMT
As proud as ever to be Rovers today. This government are utter scumbags and I fully agree with what GL tweeted.
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