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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 4, 2015 10:28:52 GMT
Blimey. Everyone saying the BoD know what they're doing over this. Turns out they really were just desperately casting about for an emergency loan. What a bunch of Wongas. ... and you have evidence of this ? Just because they have gone with this company does not indicate to me that they did not try other financial streams Evidence of what? Not sure why you're making that implicit dichotomy. Istm when we learned of this loan that some posters thought it was a short term reaction to us having our facilities withdrawn by the bank, whereas some gave the impression that this was part of a well-planned and careful financial policy. Now we learn in this thread that the former is true. That's what I was commenting on. Obviously my only evidence is posts on forums. What sort of evidence do you think I need to make such a post?
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Post by CheshireGas on Mar 4, 2015 10:30:49 GMT
I think some of you people who know better than everyone else should depart to the other site where your like minded colleagues who have nothing to add play around. Yeah, good for you, that's telling anyone who disagrees you. Next it will be f**k off to Ashton!! . Everyone is entitled to their opinion and should be allowed to express it, right or wrong. Hugo articulates a good argument as do others, why should they not be able to express that without you telling them to effectively p*** off. What next, your dad's bigger than my dad..... Quality!
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Post by Cantankerous Gas on Mar 4, 2015 10:31:58 GMT
Are there any minutes from the meeting?
Or a quick summary of what was said? Q & A?
Thanks
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Post by Mark Ash on Mar 4, 2015 10:32:56 GMT
How about Tinters and Shinters? Cheeries and Sneeries And a few old Wearies...
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 4, 2015 10:34:11 GMT
If I felt the vet was incompetent or making obviously big mistakes and not getting basics right then maybe I might suggest some things, yeah. Yeah, look Mr. Vet. I'm pretty sure that's Tiddles' arse, and that there is actually his elbow.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 10:37:49 GMT
I think some of you people who know better than everyone else should depart to the other site where your like minded colleagues who have nothing to add play around. In the mean time, in the real world, Rovers needed to fund the upcoming court case and therefore had to cast out a net to catch the best available rates that a low level football club could attract. So we are where we are. It is obvious now that we are going for the full settlement and not a halfway house. And we have to be able to meet the appropriate cost on? s is a big gamble, but it's also obvious that whatever choice is made as to how to proceed the usual pathetic attempts to slag off everyone concerned would arise. Ignoring the ridiculous descent to personalisation, the thing is this. If you are a director in a company and the shareholders have assets to short term fund a winning position would you, as directors, take on a loan with onerous interest rates which eats at your cash flow and which your shareholders might have to fund? Now, if you are not sure of your position then indeed you might as your liability for the loan is limited by share capital, unless you have personally guaranteed it, which makes the decision even more incoherent. So gasincider, how would you adrress this point?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 4, 2015 10:44:15 GMT
How about Tinters and Shinters? Cheeries and Sneeries And a few old Wearies... With a few genuine-Queries. Some old-Dearies. But mostly on-the-Beeries.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 10:48:48 GMT
How many users of this or any other Rovers forum have a spare million or so in the bank ? Some must have, as they always know all the 'facts' of how to run any business and know so much more than our board members. Come on guys, put some of that spare cash in and buy the club. I'm not a vet but I know not to put my knob in a lions mouth. Bloke walks into a pub with a Lion. Straight away people back off in horror. "Don't worry", said the bloke, "he's totally tame, and I'll prove it". With that he prises open the Lion's jaw, takes his willy out and places it in the Lion's mouth. He then closes the Lion's mouth until the Lion's teeth are just touching his willy. He then reaches over and picks up a huge glass ash tray and thwacks the Lion really hard on top of his head. The Lion's eyes roll around a little, but his teeth didn't move. He then opened the Lion's mouth again, and put his willy back into his trousers. "See, he's totally tame. Anybody else want to try it?". "I will", piped up Hugo, "but don't hit me so hard with the ashtray!"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 10:48:49 GMT
Summary from the Gas List:-
Easter and Clark will return to non contact training Thursday, contact training Friday and will be assessed for Saturdays match. To be honest, DC did not sound fully confident that either would be available. There were no other injuries from Saturday’s game, Parkes is OK We are looking at bringing in a midfield player on loan. If we do not get promoted this season we will lose out on £400k+ in guaranteed revenues. We will also lose out on the Youth team revenues, not sure if that is within the £400K or will be in addition to it. The Directors are confident that the Sainsbury court case will go in our favour. They do have a plan b,c,d if we do not win and on the suggestion to nurses accommodation at The Mem for Southmead hospital, they just smiled. UWE are still on-board with the development. The confidential clause still applies as we do not want to give Sainsbury any leverage to use against us. The court case is now set to commence on 14th May and not the date previously given. All the papers are now at the Court and apparently can be inspected but I do not have a link. The BT Sport revenue for televised games is £7k for a home game and £1k for an away game, we lose money on televised home games due to fewer spectators but we cannot refuse to allow them to televise games. DC likes players to take quick throw ins, it is not permissible to use the multi ball system, Gateshead are allowed to as their ground is an athletic stadium!!!!!!
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Post by Mark Ash on Mar 4, 2015 10:50:54 GMT
Cheeries and Sneeries And a few old Wearies... With a few genuine-Queries. Some old-Dearies. But mostly on-the-Beeries. As long as we don't all end the season as Tearies.
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Post by Mark Ash on Mar 4, 2015 10:53:48 GMT
What Youth Team revenues will we lose if we don't go up? Does the FL fund some youth development? Is that what that means?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 10:55:30 GMT
What Youth Team revenues will we lose if we don't go up? Does the FL fund some youth development? Is that what that means? I believe so.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 4, 2015 10:57:44 GMT
"DC likes players to take quick throw ins, it is not permissible to use the multi ball system, Gateshead are allowed to as their ground is an athletic stadium!!!!!!" Bizarre.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 11:08:49 GMT
What Youth Team revenues will we lose if we don't go up? Does the FL fund some youth development? Is that what that means? Interesting article here that gives info about the funding, and how Cambridge United resurrected their youth scheme during their non-league period.
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Mar 4, 2015 11:20:09 GMT
Hey, they could not have bothered and we could have gone bust! That would have pleased some people I guess ? What a fantastic bunch of blokes for not forcing us into liquidation! >6000 attendances in non-league football and that's the attitude we're expected to have? You seem to think the board are a bunch of altruistic so and so's, they have loaned Bristol Rovers money which we pay back at a rate of interest, so they're even less likely than us to want the club folded!
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Post by newmarketgas on Mar 4, 2015 11:31:00 GMT
Boo, no, just the fact that they could have given up on the club. No more, no less.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 4, 2015 11:35:12 GMT
Whilst they may be on £25K pa this seaso last season our wage bill was £3.5m, even if we had 50 "employees" that'a an average of a whopping £70K each, that suggests a few must have been earning over £100K assuming at the other end bar staff etc were on £15K?
What I can't understand is why GD had to have his loans repaid when we're clearly stuggling financially and he'd clearly not short of money? Did he demand repayment for some reason?
As far as borrowing money to fight the case wouldn't there have been uproar if NH had announced we'd let Sainsbury walk away as we couldn't afford to fight them?
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Post by peterparker on Mar 4, 2015 12:00:16 GMT
Summary from the Gas List:- Easter and Clark will return to non contact training Thursday, contact training Friday and will be assessed for Saturdays match. To be honest, DC did not sound fully confident that either would be available. There were no other injuries from Saturday’s game, Parkes is OK We are looking at bringing in a midfield player on loan. If we do not get promoted this season we will lose out on £400k+ in guaranteed revenues. We will also lose out on the Youth team revenues, not sure if that is within the £400K or will be in addition to it. The Directors are confident that the Sainsbury court case will go in our favour. They do have a plan b,c,d if we do not win and on the suggestion to nurses accommodation at The Mem for Southmead hospital, they just smiled. UWE are still on-board with the development. The confidential clause still applies as we do not want to give Sainsbury any leverage to use against us. The court case is now set to commence on 14th May and not the date previously given. All the papers are now at the Court and apparently can be inspected but I do not have a link. The BT Sport revenue for televised games is £7k for a home game and £1k for an away game, we lose money on televised home games due to fewer spectators but we cannot refuse to allow them to televise games. DC likes players to take quick throw ins, it is not permissible to use the multi ball system, Gateshead are allowed to as their ground is an athletic stadium!!!!!! I wonder how great and what the Plan B, Cs and Ds are? I mean if we lost the court case and get nothing and have a massive loan and costs to repay how viable are B, C and D and if they are that good....
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 4, 2015 12:10:15 GMT
Henbury looks like you were there. Was there anything of interest mentioned? Getting the info 3rd hand at the moment and trying another person to clarify Will post what i know when i know it
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Post by baggins on Mar 4, 2015 12:11:39 GMT
Now look, if I'm going to have to get the Amex Black out to bail us out again I'm going to be one unhappy Hobbit.
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