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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 12, 2015 17:22:46 GMT
I will be quick to blame the board if they end up fecking this all up, you're right, but they will deserve it, won't they? If it all goes wrong on Thursday will you blame the board, or will you patrol the forum looking for posters that don't fit your levels of posting-acceptability, and demand that they hypothetically praise the board for something that hasn't happened? And, actually the subtext of my post was that I was very confident that the board have a plan B in place, all ready to go. But, you know, don't let anything like that get in the way of your self-appointed policing of the forum. If it looks like criticism of the board, however small, even if it's not, you need to come down on it like a ton of bricks, it's the only language we understand. And it's your self-appointed duty. Now, carry on with your patrol. If does all go t1ts up this week is it really the Board's fault? They appointed legal advisors who we can only assume advised them the contract was in order before they signed it, and the Board could hardly anticipate Trash causing so much delay followed by Sainsbury's deciding to walk? Not necessarily this week, but if it all goes tits up, full stop, at some stage in the future, then yeah, I think ultimately they will have to take the blame. If it goes tits up this week, then obviously plan B (or Plan J by now) will come into play.
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Post by Severncider on May 12, 2015 17:39:24 GMT
Bloody hell
Why is this construed that this delay is as a result of BRFC.
I thought, perhaps Sainsbury at this last minute have asked for the delay, but I have NO inside knowledge.
The only people who know what's going on is Nick Higgs, Edward Ware and Toni Watola. The other Directors do not have a clue!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 17:43:09 GMT
Bloody hell Why is this construed that this delay is as a result of BRFC. I thought, perhaps Sainsbury at this last minute have asked for the delay, but I have NO inside knowledge. The only people who know what's going on is Nick Higgs, Edward Ware and Toni Watola. The other Directors do not have a clue!!!!!! although unfortunate for your circumstanes... i would imagine its probably for the best that so few actually know any info.... it is a trial after all....
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Post by Severncider on May 12, 2015 18:08:39 GMT
Bloody hell Why is this construed that this delay is as a result of BRFC. I thought, perhaps Sainsbury at this last minute have asked for the delay, but I have NO inside knowledge. The only people who know what's going on is Nick Higgs, Edward Ware and Toni Watola. The other Directors do not have a clue!!!!!! although unfortunate for your circumstanes... i would imagine its probably for the best that so few actually know any info.... it is a trial after all.... Having brought a rail ticket, I will still go up to London on Thursday, although not on the 07.21
I can check out the Daily Court list on Thursday for cases on the following day.
Lesson is, buy ticket on train on that morning as there are no cheap train tickets for arrivals in London before 9am.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 12, 2015 18:10:56 GMT
Bloody hell Why is this construed that this delay is as a result of BRFC. I thought, perhaps Sainsbury at this last minute have asked for the delay, but I have NO inside knowledge. The only people who know what's going on is Nick Higgs, Edward Ware and Toni Watola. The other Directors do not have a clue!!!!!! I guess posters missed your post saying the trial had been delayed by 24 hours? I assume either the court or judge aren't now free until Friday or perhaps Sainsbury's have asked for a delay as they hope to agree a settlement at the 11th hour, although that might just be wishful thinking?
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 12, 2015 18:20:08 GMT
If does all go t1ts up this week is it really the Board's fault? They appointed legal advisors who we can only assume advised them the contract was in order before they signed it, and the Board could hardly anticipate Trash causing so much delay followed by Sainsbury's deciding to walk? Not necessarily this week, but if it all goes tits up, full stop, at some stage in the future, then yeah, I think ultimately they will have to take the blame. If it goes tits up this week, then obviously plan B (or Plan J by now) will come into play. Plan B is to Share Aston Gate with Bristol Sports 1982 (mens division)
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 18:22:07 GMT
Not necessarily this week, but if it all goes tits up, full stop, at some stage in the future, then yeah, I think ultimately they will have to take the blame. If it goes tits up this week, then obviously plan B (or Plan J by now) will come into play. Plan B is to Share Aston Gate with Bristol Sports 1982 (mens division) Don't be silly Henbury. Consider yourself whacked with a piece of 4X2 for that nonsense !
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 12, 2015 18:28:45 GMT
Plan B is to Share Aston Gate with Bristol Sports 1982 (mens division) Don't be silly Henbury. Consider yourself whacked with a piece of 4X2 for that nonsense ! this forum is getting to serious at the moment so i thought a bit of light hearted humour would help
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Post by inee on May 12, 2015 18:35:54 GMT
Don't be silly Henbury. Consider yourself whacked with a piece of 4X2 for that nonsense ! this forum is getting to serious at the moment so i thought a bit of light hearted humour would help Light humour, if nightmare images had michelin stars ,that one would have 6 (just like the fingers on a Sh1!heads left ear)
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Post by pirate49 on May 12, 2015 18:36:40 GMT
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Post by Severncider on May 12, 2015 19:20:27 GMT
Just been told by BRFC the case now starts on FRIDAY.
Hell, that's £36 down the drain for a non refundable treain ticket. It appears that the case in the Courtroom they want to use is over running.
So no conspiracy here, shame for a few on here.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 19:44:40 GMT
I'm in London on Thursday, where are we going and what time please? And what do I wear.
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Post by supergas on May 12, 2015 20:17:02 GMT
Anyway making offers on the morning of the first day of a trial is something which happens on the TV, in real life offers are made before the costs of trial solicitors & barristers are incurred. it's really not...maybe not on the morning of, but all the big companies when going to court against smaller opposition will have an amount they will offer to settle for based on their risk/reward calculations. Saw it all the time when I worked for Currys.
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Post by bigtgas on May 12, 2015 20:35:52 GMT
Anyway making offers on the morning of the first day of a trial is something which happens on the TV, in real life offers are made before the costs of trial solicitors & barristers are incurred. it's really not...maybe not on the morning of, but all the big companies when going to court against smaller opposition will have an amount they will offer to settle for based on their risk/reward calculations. Saw it all the time when I worked for Currys. There is always a risk as to final Judgment and whilst legal costs - of the first day - might already be incurred there will still be an opportunity to achieve a more favourable settlement - and save further costs. It is also possible that the Judge having already formed an opinion based on the papers read could give an indication of that view to whichever party who should take time out to try and compromise.
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Post by pucklegas on May 12, 2015 21:26:19 GMT
Their qc said if we have to buy it, it is better we know now, than waiting to hear the result later on, he would not fill me with much confidence, I reckon we won t get to court. The judge will see through the stalling tactics, he will have looked at the evidence, and will have the relevant barristers in his chambers and it will be called off.
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Post by richardstad on May 12, 2015 21:48:53 GMT
From Mondays Times
Lawyers take to the pitch after Sainsbury’s Bristol Rovers deal collapses
Bristol Rovers claims Sainsbury’s showed bad faith in backing out of the contract
Andrew Clark Deputy Business Editor
Published at 12:01AM, May 11 2015
Sainsbury’s could face a £30 million bill if a High Court judge sides with a football club that has accused it of scuppering redevelopment essential to its future.
Bristol Rovers will go to court this week to argue that the retailer left it in the lurch by extricating itself from a contract to bulldoze the Memorial Stadium to build a supermarket, 65 homes, car parking and community facilities.
Big supermarket chains are redefining their ambitions as they struggle to adapt to a fierce price war and to changing shopping habits, with fewer shoppers opting for large out-of-town stores.
Mike Coupe, Sainsbury’s chief executive, has scrapped 40 schemes saying the industry is going through its most radical period of change for 30 years. Bristol Rovers claims to be an unwitting victim of the strategic U-turn.
“We’re saying they’ve demonstrated bad faith,” said Edward Ware, a director of the club. “It’s catastrophic for the club — it puts us in a perilous financial position.”
The redevelopment is crucial to the club’s hopes of building a new 21,700-seat home near the campus of the University of the West of England on the city’s northern fringe. The team will compete for a return to the Football League in the Conference’s play-off final on Sunday — and argues that a new ground is vital to its long-term future.
Sainsbury’s insists it has the right to pull out, saying it is unhappy with the terms of planning permission, which put restrictions on the number of delivery trucks that can trundle through local streets at night time.
The plaintiffs, say this is a pretext. Mr Ware said: “Their business model has changed because peoples’ shopping habits have changed — they’ve shifted from using big supermarkets to shopping at smaller convenience stores.”
Sainsbury’s boss told the City last year that he believed a quarter of its full-size supermarkets were too big.
The company took a £628 million charge in its annual results to cover a downward revaluation of its property including the cost of getting out of new developments. It also shelved projects in Salisbury, and in Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire.
It is far from alone in cutting back. Tesco is closing 43 unprofitable stores and abandoning 49 construction projects. citing fierce competition and shifting habits.
The case, which begins on Thursday, is expected to last a week.
If the judge sides with Bristol Rovers, the supermarket chain could be ordered to press ahead with the scheme or pay as much as £30 million in damages.
A Sainsbury’s spokesman said: “We’re unable to comment further due to ongoing legal action between Bristol Rovers Football Club and ourselves.”
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Post by baggins on May 13, 2015 11:17:50 GMT
Can someone confirm the hearing has been put back till Friday?
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Post by Captain Jayho on May 13, 2015 11:30:57 GMT
$30m in damages AND we keep the Mem would do nicely thanks. Oh hang on, I think that might have just been a dream I had at some stage...
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Post by Henbury Gas on May 13, 2015 11:32:52 GMT
$30m in damages AND we keep the Mem would do nicely thanks. Oh hang on, I think that might have just been a dream I had at some stage... ..... and free passage for anybody who has an antipodean addy for the first game at UWE..
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Post by Captain Jayho on May 13, 2015 11:39:53 GMT
$30m in damages AND we keep the Mem would do nicely thanks. Oh hang on, I think that might have just been a dream I had at some stage... ..... and free passage for anybody who has an antipodean addy for the first game at UWE.. I've got a feeling that in my dream I may have commandeered Lansdown's executive jet to fly me over after he'd been chased down by HMRC and they held an impromptu on-the-spot firesale of all his assets. It gets a bit hazy after that though to be honest.
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