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Post by Centenary Gas on May 18, 2015 14:09:04 GMT
The risk of going into the Conference is when, if ever you will return. Loss of immediate income, long term a loss of fanbase. Some said in previous years it would be better if we went down, but I would never accept that because of the risk of staying down there.
Now that we have bounced back at the first attempt, I would like to say how much I enjoyed the season. A new bunch of clubs, nearly all friendly and some great fans (it can't be fun following Alfreton away), being the big boys in the league who everyone looked forward to playing. And mostly, finally getting a team that gives 100% and plays for the club for better reasons than Jeff Hughes. Showing the board that money doesn't buy success, Stu Sinclair will alays be more valuable to me on £600 a week than JJOT (£2500) ever was. Lets hope they learn that lesson going forward. Words cannot even describe how pleased I am for DC right now.
I will never look at the non-league as disrespectively as I once did again, there are a lot of good people down there, and a lot of good clubs I wish all the best in the future for. At the start of the season other fans told us to embrace it, be humble, and I would like to think we haven't done a bad job at that.
Bring on next year!
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Post by ThisCharmingMan on May 18, 2015 14:12:15 GMT
Hear hear
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Post by newmarketgas on May 18, 2015 14:13:55 GMT
Great post. UTG.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 14:15:06 GMT
Another plus for me is the attitude of the fans, how good it is going to a game and most of the fans are happy. it's been a while, but DC has turned our attitude around. I just hope it continues into next season, just think where a good manager, a good set of players and an optimistic set of fans could take us next season?
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Post by Bill Bones on May 18, 2015 14:17:15 GMT
Understand where you're coming from, but couldn't ever say that I'm "glad" that we went down to non-league football. Whilst there were some huge positives this season in terms of management and player attitudes, there were also some ridiculous lows. I won't miss away trips to Altrincham and actually coming away without any points that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 14:21:09 GMT
It had to happen. We were so swept up changing managers every five minutes, watering money away and all the while slowly but surely sinking down the league. If this was what it took to stop the rot and start fresh then I'm glad too.
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Post by Centenary Gas on May 18, 2015 14:22:08 GMT
Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom...
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Post by RD on May 18, 2015 14:26:19 GMT
Brilliant post!
Sometmes you have to go backwards to go forward and I genuinely believe that will be the case for us.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 14:38:30 GMT
i've loved it, and i'll miss it. great away days....
it'll be hard to pick a neautral team in the confrence next year as i like them all most of them....
my neatral radar top 3 in non league is this though:
1. telford 2. welling 3. nuneaton
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 15:09:39 GMT
Much as I am proud to be a gashead,I would never say I was glad to lose our league status and I will have no more respect for conference teams than I had before. I hope people treated us with the same lack of respect while we were there. Now we are back I am releived and forever grateful to Darren and the boys and everyone that stuck with the club through this shameful period, I am proud of the way we applied ourselves to the job of regaining our status as a league club, but it is to our eternal shame that we were ever there in first place.
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Post by LJG on May 18, 2015 15:16:37 GMT
Nope. No way. We lost a 94 year league history and we lost it for good. A new broom sweeps clean, sure but we could've been celebrating a league 2 play off win this season (with this exact same squad in my opinion)- look at Wycombe.
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Post by Staffordshire Gas on May 18, 2015 15:16:53 GMT
Had a message from BRSC when I renewed my membership to-day-having not renewed last year for the first time in over 55 years- and they replied ,Geoff,it's all over now.It was just bad dream.' Very apt comment.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 18, 2015 15:21:22 GMT
Much as I am proud to be a gashead,I would never say I was glad to lose our league status and I will have no more respect for conference teams than I had before. I hope people treated us with the same lack of respect while we were there. Now we are back I am releived and forever grateful to Darren and the boys and everyone that stuck with the club through this shameful period, I am proud of the way we applied ourselves to the job of regaining our status as a league club, but it is to our eternal shame that we were ever there in first place. I disagree. No club has a divine right to football league status. We were in some ways unfortunate to be relegated but had failed to see the warning signs and had no-one to blame but ourselves. There are however, several clubs still in the conference (Grimsby, Macclesfield, Torquay, FGR, Halifax, Eastleigh off the top of my head) who could compete at league 2 level in my opinion and there was no shame being amongst that company. Being the first club for 10 years to go straight back up is something to be very proud of and is testament to just how difficult a league it is to get out of. Just ask Luton or Grimsby, both grand old clubs of a similar size to us, and they'll tell you! Hopefully we will look back in years to come with pride at a season where we put the ship back on course, not with shame that we fell to this level. Onwards and upwards!
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Post by tumshie on May 18, 2015 15:26:13 GMT
No way. Wish we never went down. End of.
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Post by ThisCharmingMan on May 18, 2015 15:30:00 GMT
No way. Wish we never went down. End of. Nobody wants to go down, but in my opinion it's helped to shake the club up which was badly badly needed. You would like to think years of struggling in League 2 would of done this, but it certainly didn't!
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Post by LJG on May 18, 2015 15:38:51 GMT
Much as I am proud to be a gashead,I would never say I was glad to lose our league status and I will have no more respect for conference teams than I had before. I hope people treated us with the same lack of respect while we were there. Now we are back I am releived and forever grateful to Darren and the boys and everyone that stuck with the club through this shameful period, I am proud of the way we applied ourselves to the job of regaining our status as a league club, but it is to our eternal shame that we were ever there in first place. I disagree. No club has a divine right to football league status. We were in some ways unfortunate to be relegated but had failed to see the warning signs and had no-one to blame but ourselves. There are however, several clubs still in the conference (Grimsby, Macclesfield, Torquay, FGR, Halifax, Eastleigh off the top of my head) who could compete at league 2 level in my opinion and there was no shame being amongst that company. Being the first club for 10 years to go straight back up is something to be very proud of and is testament to just how difficult a league it is to get out of. Just ask Luton or Grimsby, both grand old clubs of a similar size to us, and they'll tell you! Hopefully we will look back in years to come with pride at a season where we put the ship back on course, not with shame that we fell to this level. Onwards and upwards! I totally disagree with this common myth that that league was a tough league - just a look at the play-off quality: Doggy-do. FGR were absolute rubbish over two legs - as I've said on another thread anyone looking at that as a club placed fifth in this league and saying it's no different to Lg 2 is just totally deluded. I'd make pretty much the same comments about Grimsby - I honestly never felt a threat from them yesterday - yes they seemed more aggressive and a bit more up for it but I genuinely never drew breath when they were on the break - we totally outclassed them. I think Leadbitter for Lockyer could have given us a bit more penetration to have turned it round and let's face it, but for one poor defensive moment/keeper error we'd have won it in 90 minutes. For a third placed club I don't they even came close to match us for quality.
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Post by Centenary Gas on May 18, 2015 15:50:05 GMT
I disagree. No club has a divine right to football league status. We were in some ways unfortunate to be relegated but had failed to see the warning signs and had no-one to blame but ourselves. There are however, several clubs still in the conference (Grimsby, Macclesfield, Torquay, FGR, Halifax, Eastleigh off the top of my head) who could compete at league 2 level in my opinion and there was no shame being amongst that company. Being the first club for 10 years to go straight back up is something to be very proud of and is testament to just how difficult a league it is to get out of. Just ask Luton or Grimsby, both grand old clubs of a similar size to us, and they'll tell you! Hopefully we will look back in years to come with pride at a season where we put the ship back on course, not with shame that we fell to this level. Onwards and upwards! anyone looking at that as a club placed fifth in this league and saying it's no different to Lg 2 is just totally deluded. One argument I'd make against you there, is do you remember how bad some of the bottom league two teams really were? Terrible when they came to the Mem. We got some tough games from Wrexham, Gateshead, FGR (mid season game), Eastleigh, Grimsby, Barnet...
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Post by LJG on May 18, 2015 15:52:54 GMT
anyone looking at that as a club placed fifth in this league and saying it's no different to Lg 2 is just totally deluded. One argument I'd make against you there, is do you remember how bad some of the bottom league two teams really were? Terrible when they came to the Mem. We got some tough games from Wrexham, Gateshead, FGR (mid season game), Eastleigh, Grimsby, Barnet... Don't get me wrong I do know that League 2 standard is nightmarishly bad but even so ...
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Post by Qatar Gas on May 18, 2015 16:06:43 GMT
Agree, it was the kick up the arse we needed and probably wouldn't have got if we drew with Mansfield. Different type of players, ones who want to play and no more journeymen.
Speaking to some regulars before yesterday's game they said they had enjoyed going to new grounds but once was enough and cous not face the prospect of having to go again next season!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 18, 2015 16:06:56 GMT
I disagree. No club has a divine right to football league status. We were in some ways unfortunate to be relegated but had failed to see the warning signs and had no-one to blame but ourselves. There are however, several clubs still in the conference (Grimsby, Macclesfield, Torquay, FGR, Halifax, Eastleigh off the top of my head) who could compete at league 2 level in my opinion and there was no shame being amongst that company. Being the first club for 10 years to go straight back up is something to be very proud of and is testament to just how difficult a league it is to get out of. Just ask Luton or Grimsby, both grand old clubs of a similar size to us, and they'll tell you! Hopefully we will look back in years to come with pride at a season where we put the ship back on course, not with shame that we fell to this level. Onwards and upwards! I totally disagree with this common myth that that league was a tough league - just a look at the play-off quality: Doggy-do. FGR were absolute rubbish over two legs - as I've said on another thread anyone looking at that as a club placed fifth in this league and saying it's no different to Lg 2 is just totally deluded. I'd make pretty much the same comments about Grimsby - I honestly never felt a threat from them yesterday - yes they seemed more aggressive and a bit more up for it but I genuinely never drew breath when they were on the break - we totally outclassed them. I think Leadbitter for Lockyer could have given us a bit more penetration to have turned it round and let's face it, but for one poor defensive moment/keeper error we'd have won it in 90 minutes. For a third placed club I don't they even came close to match us for quality. The league is not at the same standard as league 2, I agree. However, I think several teams in the league could hold their own in league 2 and there are only two promotion places. It is not an easy league to get out of, and the fact that we're the first club to do this at the first attempt for 10 years is a good achievement. Generally, the promoted teams have faired pretty well in their first season in league 2: 2014/15 Luton 8th, Cambridge 19th 2013/14 Mansfield 11th, Newport 14th 2012/13 Fleetwood 13th, York 17th 2011/12 Crawley 3rd, Wimbledon 16th 2010/11 Stevenage 6th, Oxford 12th 2009/10 Burton 13th, Torquay 17th 2008/09 Exeter 2nd, Aldershot 15th 2007/08 Dagenham 20th, Morecambe 11th 2006/07 Hereford 16th, Accrington 20th 2005/06 Barnet 18th, Carlisle 1stIn the last 10 years, no promoted club has been relegated in the following season, whereas 4 promoted clubs have gone on to successive promotion into league 1. We are the first team since Carlisle in 2004/05 to bounce straight back up. Carlisle also went up through the play-offs. The following season they won league 2. Let's follow that pattern please, Gas!
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