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Post by Centenary Gas on May 23, 2015 13:31:54 GMT
Article in the IndependentIn order for this to change – and the division to be granted three promotion places – a majority of League Two clubs would be required to agree to any proposals. Whilst there would be stiff opposition to any rule-change – the analogy of turkeys not voting for Christmas springs to mind – clubs need to start looking at the long-term benefits, instead of purely being interested in instant self-preservation or potentially signing their own death warrantsCompletely agree. I would hope that BRFC would look past any selfish interest and vote for the greater (IMO) good. If you're bad enough to finish third from bottom of the football league, send 'em down. It would actually mean that relegation to the Conference wouldn't be quite so much of a disaster, if the clubs down there would rather take a longer term view. I remember Gartside, the Bolton chairman, trying to bring in new rules that would get rid of relegation from the Premiership. I wonder if the selfish **** would still vote for that now? Pull the ladder up Jack...
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 23, 2015 13:44:36 GMT
I said years ago (ie before we got relegated) that all the divisions should be 5 up 5 down (and 4 for the prem). There's absolutely nothing to be gained by having bottlenecks. And lots to gain from having more promotion places.
The Turkeys voting for xmas analogy is wrong, coz everyone always gets the chance to come back again, unlike slaughtered fowl.
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Post by Gas-Ed on May 23, 2015 13:55:05 GMT
It doesn't make sense that only 2 should drop out of the league each season. Would like to see it changed myself.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 14:07:39 GMT
i'm sat here trying to think of a reason why it would be a bad idea....
and i cant think of any.... not one....
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Post by Centenary Gas on May 23, 2015 14:25:47 GMT
i'm sat here trying to think of a reason why it would be a bad idea.... and i cant think of any.... not one....
That won't stop the chairman of league two voting against it in their short signed self interest...
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Post by stevek192 on May 23, 2015 14:39:41 GMT
It is not every season that you have three clubs such as Barnet,Rovers and Grimsby going for promotion. You have to try to ensure a certain standard from teams promoted or you end up with a total lack of quality in League 2. In truth there are already too many teams in the League who cannot rally up much in the way of support.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 14:43:03 GMT
It is not every season that you have three clubs such as Barnet,Rovers and Grimsby going for promotion. You have to try to ensure a certain standard from teams promoted or you end up with a total lack of quality in League 2. In truth there are already too many teams in the League who cannot rally up much in the way of support. good point, and well made.... but isn't it going to boost tickets sales on sides of the 'border' if there is more to play for?  |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 23, 2015 15:12:28 GMT
It is not every season that you have three clubs such as Barnet,Rovers and Grimsby going for promotion. You have to try to ensure a certain standard from teams promoted or you end up with a total lack of quality in League 2. In truth there are already too many teams in the League who cannot rally up much in the way of support. Not really. Even if no teams are good enough to be in the league above the three will go up that year and come straight back down again. The point is, (in regard to the strength of the team, and not to the strength of the support) you will never get a surplus of poor teams going up (except for the one season, as described above) but you can always get a surplus of good-enough teams staying down. Too many teams going up will always be rectified the very next season, not enough teams going up will, essentially, never be rectified. |
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Post by Centenary Gas on May 23, 2015 15:14:07 GMT
It is not every season that you have three clubs such as Barnet,Rovers and Grimsby going for promotion. You have to try to ensure a certain standard from teams promoted or you end up with a total lack of quality in League 2. In truth there are already too many teams in the League who cannot rally up much in the way of support. How often do teams go up and go straight back down again? A lot less than the Premier League... or any other league above the Conference I would suggest. |
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Post by mehewmagic on May 23, 2015 15:19:58 GMT
I don't understand.
I live in a rural[ish] area and I didn't see any Turkeys at the polling station a a few weeks ago.
Has the Turkey vote been marginalised?
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Post by lulworthgas on May 23, 2015 15:28:48 GMT
Under these rules we'd have been relegated quite a lot in the last few years!!
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Post by dcr on May 23, 2015 16:58:03 GMT
I am sure Higgs said some months ago that he will vote for 3 up 3 down
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 17:20:30 GMT
It is not every season that you have three clubs such as Barnet,Rovers and Grimsby going for promotion. You have to try to ensure a certain standard from teams promoted or you end up with a total lack of quality in League 2. In truth there are already too many teams in the League who cannot rally up much in the way of support. What a load of crap. Why not restrict league football to the major 10 cities in England then and clubs like Bournemouth would never have had the chance to reach the Premier League. The size of a club is measured by its success and not the size of its support which is something that Rovers fans spend too much time patronising others because we support a big city club. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 17:20:57 GMT
I am sure Higgs said some months ago that he will vote for 3 up 3 down So in reality he won't then. |
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Post by mehewmagic on May 23, 2015 18:08:24 GMT
Under these rules we'd have been relegated quite a lot in the last few years!! you're probably just having a laugh but if you;re being serious it's not actually true. we easily survived after bad starts in the 2 season before going down. Obviously the first 2 seasons in Lge 2 [2OO1/2 and 2OO2/3] would be the problem! Although even those you could maybe [maybe!] argue we would have spent more money and taken the lge more seriously if 3 went down at that point. |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on May 23, 2015 18:26:16 GMT
What shocks me is up until recently how teams had to be elected into the league. So all it took was a few bungs and you could finish bottom and survive.
Three clubs for me too.
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Post by Congas on May 24, 2015 7:09:08 GMT
Three up, three down between League 2 and League 1 and four up, four down between Conference and League 2 could be the way to go. Perhaps something similar to Scotland with the highest placed team in the playoff positions going straight to the final and the other three playing it out for the honour of meeting the team fourth from bottom in League 2 in a semi final.
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Post by socrates on May 24, 2015 7:59:09 GMT
Under these rules we'd have been relegated quite a lot in the last few years!! Or would the club have had the kick up the bum it's needed for ages a long time ago and we'd now be in league 1 ? |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 8:01:18 GMT
Keep it as it is, two teams from that dreadful league is more than enough.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 9:49:08 GMT
Play off is only about making money for tv/club Wembley.
Only playoff I would recommend is between 3rd from bottom and 3rd from top to see who remains or joins the top 2.
It's silly how the 7th best team can go up like we did in 07.
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