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Post by peterparker on Jun 8, 2015 8:08:01 GMT
I'm quite surprised by this censorship. It's amazingly hypocritical considering the amount of flack the old official forum got for manipulating threads that didn't toe the party line. The serious forum can't be taken seriously anymore. We could leave it there and get embroiled in an age old argument and be told that the other forum is bringing up Kevin Spencer again, why can't they move on?
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Post by yattongas on Jun 8, 2015 8:10:31 GMT
Before the Forums came along I was of the opinion that any & all Gasheads were good people. Now I realise 99% of you are stupid , nauseating , dullards :-)
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Post by RD on Jun 8, 2015 8:15:00 GMT
I have to say, I'm not a massive fan of threads like these as they create a divide amongst Gasheads.
There are two forums and, to be honest, it's probably a good thing that there are as, that way, there are two possible places for people to post.
I don't think it's any secret or controversial to state that the two forums do differ. The Independent Forum has always been slightly more serious than GasChat. As such, the style of topics will differ. That said, it doesn't mean that GasChat is devoid of any serious discussion, nor does it mean that the IF is devoid of any humour. They are different to each other - definitely - but that isn't a bad thing IMO.
For those who don't like the IF, then they no doubt post here. Similarly I'm sure there are number of Gasheads for whom GasChat isn't to their particular taste, and I'm sure those posters post on the IF. There will of course be some who post on both and, indeed, those that post on neither.
As such, there is nothing wrong with having an opinion in respect of either forum (or both), but I think threads like this only create a further divide when there isn't a need to create one or turn it in to a battle.
I'm sure that was not the opening post's intentions, but I am keen to avoid this type of thing where possible as, intended or not, that is almost always the likely outcome.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:16:05 GMT
Sack tbone The other forum tends to be more concerned with the commercial aspects of the club than with the playing aspects and, yes, the majority (but not all) the posters have a clear and obvious dislike of the current board members, especially Nick Higgs.  The issue on there at the moment is that the mods are locking threads which criticise an ex board member, whilst leaving open threads which criticise NH, GD, BB etc.  My own view is that there has been an attempt at sh*t stirring by one poster regarding an ex-director and the moBrfc, he re doing their best to close that topic down - I just wish they would take the same approach when the current board are criticised. I view both forums, seldom posting onthe difference is basically that the other forum is dominated by the anti-board mob.  That said, there are often humourous threads and discussions about the playing side of things but in my view the lesson is that this board should stick to team issues, humour and Shamesbury's. I take issue with some of this. As someone who took part in the discussions in 2006, had a legal run in with a then leading board member, someone who believes the current model of club ownership and financing is unsustainable, then to say we are more interested in the commercial aspects over the playing aspects is ridiculous. The whole point of running a commercially sustainable organisation is to be able to fund a sustainable professional football club, and all that goes with that. If you feel the two are separate then the charge of Ostrich sticks. The current debate over Kevin S, is silly and the mods were right to set it to fall. I know Kevin well and not only has he fallen out of love with BRFC he has moved away from Bristol. Its a dead issue now and there is zero value in debating his oersonal circumstance. There is value however in debating the attitude of the BoD who see fit to ban people who have the temerity to disagree with them. Given their relative performance over the last 6 years you would think they would value all the support they could muster and listen to opinions and advice. But then again they could always rely on Ostriches...right? A good post and one that closely reflects my feelings. We should always be prepared to listen and 've challenged. That said, both forums cater to and for very different people and neither are necessarily wrong. Wanting to support and nothing more is equally as valid as wanting to challenge and question. I think that the "ostrich" comment is a little unfair. Most football fans care about nothing more than the first team and results. They are not interested in how those results may or may not be effected by those at the top. That doesn't make them bad people, it just makes them normal football fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:18:14 GMT
I'm quite surprised by this censorship. It's amazingly hypocritical considering the amount of flack the old official forum got for manipulating threads that didn't toe the party line. The serious forum can't be taken seriously anymore. And there has never been such a thing on here, right? Of course there has. I've done it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:24:12 GMT
I take issue with some of this. As someone who took part in the discussions in 2006, had a legal run in with a then leading board member, someone who believes the current model of club ownership and financing is unsustainable, then to say we are more interested in the commercial aspects over the playing aspects is ridiculous. The whole point of running a commercially sustainable organisation is to be able to fund a sustainable professional football club, and all that goes with that. If you feel the two are separate then the charge of Ostrich sticks. The current debate over Kevin S, is silly and the mods were right to set it to fall. I know Kevin well and not only has he fallen out of love with BRFC he has moved away from Bristol. Its a dead issue now and there is zero value in debating his oersonal circumstance. There is value however in debating the attitude of the BoD who see fit to ban people who have the temerity to disagree with them. Given their relative performance over the last 6 years you would think they would value all the support they could muster and listen to opinions and advice. But then again they could always rely on Ostriches...right? A good post and one that closely reflects my feelings. We should always be prepared to listen and 've challenged. That said, both forums cater to and for very different people and neither are necessarily wrong. Wanting to support and nothing more is equally as valid as wanting to challenge and question. I think that the "ostrich" comment is a little unfair. Most football fans care about nothing more than the first team and results. They are not interested in how those results may or may not be effected by those at the top. That doesn't make them bad people, it just makes them normal football fans. I completely accept that, but disagree with the attitude. If you care about the club then you cannot ignore the "coal face" stuff. Ultimately what goes on in the board room ends up on the pitch. People, for example, scream to sign Chris Lines, how are we going to that with negative cash flow? Answers on a post card to I really love the club Never Never Land Utopia
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:27:38 GMT
Mods on both forums have an impossible job. Impossible job=Mission Impossible? Hugo - You are Tom Cruise and I claim my 5 pounds !
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Post by gastropod on Jun 8, 2015 8:28:20 GMT
I'm quite surprised by this censorship. It's amazingly hypocritical considering the amount of flack the old official forum got for manipulating threads that didn't toe the party line. The serious forum can't be taken seriously anymore. And there has never been such a thing on here, right? Is that the best you can come up with in your defence of the censorship on the other forum?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:30:43 GMT
And there has never been such a thing on here, right? Is that the best you can come up with in your defence of the censorship on the other forum? Rhetorical and I have no interest in entertaining you
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Post by gastropod on Jun 8, 2015 8:31:30 GMT
Is that the best you can come up with in your defence of the censorship on the other forum? Rhetorical and I have no interest in entertaining you Ha-ha... I win then!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:32:16 GMT
Is that the best you can come up with in your defence of the censorship on the other forum? Rhetorical and I have no interest in entertaining you Oldie - "I have no interest in entertaining you" - Bugger, you are not Robbie Williams so I can't claim my 5 pounds.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:34:01 GMT
Seems funny that people have come on here to debate the other forum over there. Surely it can't be that much of a dictatorship on the other forum?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:35:04 GMT
Rhetorical and I have no interest in entertaining you Ha-ha... I win then! If that makes your Monday a happier place, glad to oblige I will send you a dictionary though
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Post by gregsy on Jun 8, 2015 8:36:36 GMT
we all have different takes on life, football no different.... i wouldn't criticize someone for standing in the blackthorne when i personally prefer the west enclosure.... this forum is a bit of a circus mind....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:36:52 GMT
Seems funny that people have come on here to debate the other forum over there. Surely it can't be that much of a dictatorship on the other forum? Dunno, but someone is knocking on my door......
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Post by gastropod on Jun 8, 2015 8:38:33 GMT
If that makes your Monday a happier place, glad to oblige I will send you a dictionary though Monday is not a place... I suggest you keep your dictionary.
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Post by RD on Jun 8, 2015 8:45:17 GMT
we all have different takes on life, football no different.... i wouldn't criticize someone for standing in the blackthorne when i personally prefer the west enclosure.... this forum is a bit of a circus mind.... Welcome back!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:54:58 GMT
we all have different takes on life, football no different.... i wouldn't criticize someone for standing in the blackthorne when i personally prefer the west enclosure.... this forum is a bit of a circus mind.... Ffs, how did he get back in?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:56:52 GMT
I don't post on the other forum, but I do like to have a lurk there to get a differrent flavour. I think both forums are great and it's good that they each have their own character.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 8, 2015 9:05:29 GMT
Sack tbone The other forum tends to be more concerned with the commercial aspects of the club than with the playing aspects and, yes, the majority (but not all) the posters have a clear and obvious dislike of the current board members, especially Nick Higgs. The issue on there at the moment is that the mods are locking threads which criticise an ex board member, whilst leaving open threads which criticise NH, GD, BB etc. My own view is that there has been an attempt at sh*t stirring by one poster regarding an ex-director and the moBrfc, he re doing their best to close that topic down - I just wish they would take the same approach when the current board are criticised. I view both forums, seldom posting onthe difference is basically that the other forum is dominated by the anti-board mob. That said, there are often humourous threads and discussions about the playing side of things but in my view the lesson is that this board should stick to team issues, humour and Shamesbury's. I take issue with some of this. As someone who took part in the discussions in 2006, had a legal run in with a then leading board member, someone who believes the current model of club ownership and financing is unsustainable, then to say we are more interested in the commercial aspects over the playing aspects is ridiculous. The whole point of running a commercially sustainable organisation is to be able to fund a sustainable professional football club, and all that goes with that. If you feel the two are separate then the charge of Ostrich sticks. The current debate over Kevin S, is silly and the mods were right to set it to fall. I know Kevin well and not only has he fallen out of love with BRFC he has moved away from Bristol. Its a dead issue now and there is zero value in debating his oersonal circumstance. There is value however in debating the attitude of the BoD who see fit to ban people who have the temerity to disagree with them. Given their relative performance over the last 6 years you would think they would value all the support they could muster and listen to opinions and advice. But then again they could always rely on Ostriches...right? They do it in politics so why can't they do it in a football club
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