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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 10:05:54 GMT
And there has never been such a thing on here, right? replying to both posts, The mods on here are likened to an asshat resting on satans arse grapes, the admin well he's like a can of bitter without the can or the bitter, total waste of space, but unlike the o/f we know who they are and they sont hide behind a seperate account, Yes there has been changed posts on here but normally it's only the jovial threads that get changed, I've had a few run ins with admin over censorship but neither of us held a grudge (after we both left intensive care) Thing is both forums have a place, with things that have happened over the last 18 months or so ,i refuse to take things seriously, it's probably why i post here. I agree. The admin guy is useless. Hello fanboy! I'm not admin anymore! On both forums mods have to remove posts and control things to keep the forum in check or to maintain its core values for its users. Sometimes they get it wrong but both forums have infinitely better moderation than the OF ever had.
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Post by gregsy on Jun 8, 2015 10:07:10 GMT
Gonna be pure carnage over there if we do get the UWE Personally I am not sure if a win, will be a real win. I still think given all that has gone on, there will be more to come. I am sure Sainsbury's would try and find anything they possibly could to appeal that decision.
If the contract is that complex as even our own QC admitted then I cannot see Sainsbury's giving up and saying "Fair Cop" just like that
were all aware of this mate, but a win is a start surely, i know its depressing the thought of a non-final victory, but surely the game at wembley teaches us not to lose....
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Post by inee on Jun 8, 2015 10:27:12 GMT
replying to both posts, The mods on here are likened to an asshat resting on satans arse grapes, the ex disgraced public schoolboy who was caught on clapham common with a guardsman and a full flask called hugo the admin well he's like a can of bitter without the can or the bitter, total waste of space, but unlike the o/f we know who they are and they sont hide behind a separate account, Yes there has been changed posts on here but normally it's only the jovial threads that get changed, I've had a few run ins with admin over censorship but neither of us held a grudge (after we both left intensive care) Thing is both forums have a place, with things that have happened over the last 18 months or so ,i refuse to take things seriously, it's probably why i post here. I agree. The admin guy is useless. Hello fanboy! I'm not admin anymore! On both forums mods have to remove posts and control things to keep the forum in check or to maintain its core values for its users. Sometimes they get it wrong but both forums have infinitely better moderation than the OF ever had. Corrected due to the mods acting like sainsburies solicitors and withholding changes
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Post by peterparker on Jun 8, 2015 10:40:33 GMT
I thought this high court thing was the be all and end all of it with no right to appeal by either side ??
you can't appeal for the sake of it, but I believe you can appeal on a point of law. due to the apparent complexities of the contract, I wouldn't be surprised if they will be ready to find something to argue if they lose
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 8, 2015 11:04:02 GMT
Blimey!! This is my first post on this forum. I do post on the Gas Guzzler one. My IT skills are **** so I don't overdo it! Been supporting the rovers since early 60s but have been in deepest Dorset for nearly 40 years and only go to Bristol for matches. I drive up and drive back so tend not to know any people well. The thread on the other one is like walking into a room when there' s been an argument. You know there's an argument but haven't got a clue what it's about! Actually I dont care. Don't know any of the politics of the board, groups or anything. All I do is support the gas and have done for 50 years.
I think mods who take time to organise and run both forums do really well and help people like me keep up to date with some of what's happening. rules are rules and we know what we can't say. But they are forums and people have different opinions and some people will know a lot more than others and will pass that on I guess.
In any club, firm, organisation or whatever there are rows, arguments and fallings out ...so what! Get over it, everyone has an opinion and as long as its expressed without too much rancour and within the rules.... I seem to remember a long time ago (60s) the Rovers Supporters Club and the Club itself not speaking for about 5 years. They had a massive falling out... Can't remember the reasons but it was massive at the time.
Main point is we all love the Rovers and all have an opinion. I'm just waiting for the retained list and Lines to sign (I hope) and can't stop being very relieved we are back in the league!!
UTG!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 8, 2015 11:04:43 GMT
I thought this high court thing was the be all and end all of it with no right to appeal by either side ??
you can't appeal for the sake of it, but I believe you can appeal on a point of law. due to the apparent complexities of the contract, I wouldn't be surprised if they will be ready to find something to argue if they lose
The Judge can also block an appeal... But Sainsbury can the Appeal direct to the court of Appeal... I think thats how i read it once !
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Post by gregsy on Jun 8, 2015 11:09:32 GMT
thing i find strange about all this is that 30 million of land in north bristol is not likely to devalue.... i know sainsbury aren't property developers but they stand to loose f all really....
or have i got it wrong??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 11:21:46 GMT
Blimey!! This is my first post on this forum. I do post on the Gas Guzzler one. My IT skills are **** so I don't overdo it! Been supporting the rovers since early 60s but have been in deepest Dorset for nearly 40 years and only go to Bristol for matches. I drive up and drive back so tend not to know any people well. The thread on the other one is like walking into a room when there' s been an argument. You know there's an argument but haven't got a clue what it's about! Actually I dont care. Don't know any of the politics of the board, groups or anything. All I do is support the gas and have done for 50 years. I think mods who take time to organise and run both forums do really well and help people like me keep up to date with some of what's happening. rules are rules and we know what we can't say. But they are forums and people have different opinions and some people will know a lot more than others and will pass that on I guess. In any club, firm, organisation or whatever there are rows, arguments and fallings out ...so what! Get over it, everyone has an opinion and as long as its expressed without too much rancour and within the rules.... I seem to remember a long time ago (60s) the Rovers Supporters Club and the Club itself not speaking for about 5 years. They had a massive falling out... Can't remember the reasons but it was massive at the time. Main point is we all love the Rovers and all have an opinion. I'm just waiting for the retained list and Lines to sign (I hope) and can't stop being very relieved we are back in the league!! UTG! Welcome to Gaschat! Hope you like it here. Don't drink coffee if offered from a flask and don't touch the Brown crayons.
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Post by gregsy on Jun 8, 2015 11:29:32 GMT
or forum members wearing dogs bras....
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Post by stapletongas on Jun 8, 2015 11:29:38 GMT
Sack tbone The other forum tends to be more concerned with the commercial aspects of the club than with the playing aspects and, yes, the majority (but not all) the posters have a clear and obvious dislike of the current board members, especially Nick Higgs. The issue on there at the moment is that the mods are locking threads which criticise an ex board member, whilst leaving open threads which criticise NH, GD, BB etc. My own view is that there has been an attempt at sh*t stirring by one poster regarding an ex-director and the moBrfc, he re doing their best to close that topic down - I just wish they would take the same approach when the current board are criticised. I view both forums, seldom posting onthe difference is basically that the other forum is dominated by the anti-board mob. That said, there are often humourous threads and discussions about the playing side of things but in my view the lesson is that this board should stick to team issues, humour and Shamesbury's. I take issue with some of this. As someone who took part in the discussions in 2006, had a legal run in with a then leading board member, someone who believes the current model of club ownership and financing is unsustainable, then to say we are more interested in the commercial aspects over the playing aspects is ridiculous. The whole point of running a commercially sustainable organisation is to be able to fund a sustainable professional football club, and all that goes with that. If you feel the two are separate then the charge of Ostrich sticks. The current debate over Kevin S, is silly and the mods were right to set it to fall. I know Kevin well and not only has he fallen out of love with BRFC he has moved away from Bristol. Its a dead issue now and there is zero value in debating his oersonal circumstance. There is value however in debating the attitude of the BoD who see fit to ban people who have the temerity to disagree with them. Given their relative performance over the last 6 years you would think they would value all the support they could muster and listen to opinions and advice. But then again they could always rely on Ostriches...right? Sorry, too serious for Gaschat...when in Rome...
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Post by fanboy on Jun 8, 2015 11:31:22 GMT
GasChat at Gasheads.org away.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 8, 2015 11:41:58 GMT
or forum members wearing dogs bras.... Wow!! thanks, I'll remember that. Don't see too many of those in Dorset. Used to have to go south of the river to see those.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 11:46:23 GMT
or forum members wearing dogs bras.... Wow!! thanks, I'll remember that. Don't see too many of those in Dorset. Used to have to go south of the river to see those. We're opening up in an area near you soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 11:50:09 GMT
I take issue with some of this. As someone who took part in the discussions in 2006, had a legal run in with a then leading board member, someone who believes the current model of club ownership and financing is unsustainable, then to say we are more interested in the commercial aspects over the playing aspects is ridiculous. The whole point of running a commercially sustainable organisation is to be able to fund a sustainable professional football club, and all that goes with that. If you feel the two are separate then the charge of Ostrich sticks. The current debate over Kevin S, is silly and the mods were right to set it to fall. I know Kevin well and not only has he fallen out of love with BRFC he has moved away from Bristol. Its a dead issue now and there is zero value in debating his oersonal circumstance. There is value however in debating the attitude of the BoD who see fit to ban people who have the temerity to disagree with them. Given their relative performance over the last 6 years you would think they would value all the support they could muster and listen to opinions and advice. But then again they could always rely on Ostriches...right? Sorry, too serious for Gaschat...when in Rome... Ahh, of course. "Yer, that lot on the uvver forum, bloody wankers, they dont really love Rovers, they got an agenda. I fink Nick is brilliant, where would be wivout im? Btw, av you seen the state of Sinclairs beard? Omg, its brill."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 11:59:15 GMT
Sorry, too serious for Gaschat...when in Rome... Ahh, of course. "Yer, that lot on the uvver forum, bloody bilge rats, they dont really love Rovers, they got an agenda. I fink Nick is brilliant, where would be wivout im? Btw, av you seen the state of Sinclairs beard? Omg, its brill." That's the spirit! Look, its ok to have your views and I agree with your questioning of the board but why berate fans that doesn't wish to engage? It makes you look snooty, like fans that dont care about politics are somehow beneath you. An attitude in fact that directly led to the creation of this forum in the first place. It's like buying Viz and then lamenting the the lack of in depth financial analysis. Imo the best option would be to dip in and out of both forums or spend time on the one you like best.
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Post by LJG on Jun 8, 2015 12:04:19 GMT
I thought this high court thing was the be all and end all of it with no right to appeal by either side ??
you can't appeal for the sake of it, but I believe you can appeal on a point of law. due to the apparent complexities of the contract, I wouldn't be surprised if they will be ready to find something to argue if they lose
You can seek leave to appeal from the hearing judge if the decision was wrong in law or so manifestly wrong no judge could reasonably have reached that decision. If the judge refuses your application you can apply directly to the Court of Appeal - who may also refuse. If it's granted and the decision gets reversed the other party can then appeal in the same way to the Supreme Court (used to be the House of Lords). Listing in the Supreme Court can be a two year wait. This could all go on for a very long time yet. I think Sainsburys are gambling pn us not having the cash to be able to wait it out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 12:16:10 GMT
Ahh, of course. "Yer, that lot on the uvver forum, bloody bilge rats, they dont really love Rovers, they got an agenda. I fink Nick is brilliant, where would be wivout im? Btw, av you seen the state of Sinclairs beard? Omg, its brill." That's the spirit! Look, its ok to have your views and I agree with your questioning of the board but why berate fans that doesn't wish to engage? It makes you look snooty, like fans that dont care about politics are somehow beneath you. An attitude in fact that directly led to the creation of this forum in the first place. It's like buying Viz and then lamenting the the lack of in depth financial analysis. Imo the best option would be to dip in and out of both forums or spend time on the one you like best. Just taking the water Hugo, re the when in Rome quote
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 12:31:26 GMT
Sorry, too serious for Gaschat...when in Rome... Ahh, of course. "Yer, that lot on the uvver forum, bloody bilge rats, they dont really love Rovers, they got an agenda. I fink Nick is brilliant, where would be wivout im? Btw, av you seen the state of Sinclairs beard? Omg, its brill." F.cking snobs coming on ere acting all superior,fu.ck off back to your wine sipping and leave the football to us working classes
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Post by CheshireGas on Jun 8, 2015 13:41:07 GMT
I'm quite surprised by this censorship. It's amazingly hypocritical considering the amount of flack the old official forum got for manipulating threads that didn't toe the party line. The serious forum can't be taken seriously anymore. As Hugo has indicated the amount of censorship on either forum has been kept to the absolute minimum and there is a hell of a lot less than was on the old OF. No one gets threatening emails or letters stating that the law will be round or solicitors letters are in the post. And remember that the other forum is the ultimate successor of the Alternative Forum which was set up for those who were banned from posting on the old OF..... I feel that people trying to have a pop at either forum are just mischief making, after all its the close season and they have bugger all else to do with their time now the football's on hold.... It's good to be able to have different views and to be able to express them whilst (hopefully) respecting other peoples' viewpoints! As the French say "Vive la difference" and pass the garlic bread....
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Post by stapletongas on Jun 8, 2015 13:55:36 GMT
Sorry, too serious for Gaschat...when in Rome... Ahh, of course. "Yer, that lot on the uvver forum, bloody bilge rats, they dont really love Rovers, they got an agenda. I fink Nick is brilliant, where would be wivout im? Btw, av you seen the state of Sinclairs beard? Omg, its brill." Now that's better, less of the serious crap around here in future if you don't mind Les
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