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Post by socrates on Jul 24, 2015 7:32:46 GMT
I think you'll see a different Mildy this season. Shape shifting reptilian Mildy? Devilishly handsome Mildy? Rogeuish but loyal Mildy? Quiet yet assertive Mildy? The suspense is killing me! Mildy that doesn't punch the ball into his net or let the ball through his legs will do me. He had a very good season apart from those two errors but they were bad errors and the sort keepers get dropped for. How about a Mildy with age reversing powers. A 27 year old agile Mildy between the sticks would be good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 8:24:22 GMT
Wow, really. What is your theory based on ? I agree because SS covers too much ground which will leave Lines exposed in there. Both players are box to box but in different styles so our MF will be void. How can you cover too much ground if you are a central midfielder ? Surely box to box and a good work ethic is what it's all about.
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 24, 2015 8:59:11 GMT
Because midfield is a key area and if you are running all over the place then you leave the central midfield area outnumbered and with Lines -Sinclair the centre would be left to Lines far too much of the time,he would be outnumbered and is not a tackler to win the ball back. Central Midfield is a lot more than just running around.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 24, 2015 10:04:52 GMT
SS is hardly an inexperienced kid surely he understands the role better than most of us posting our own views on a fans forum?
We've 4 midfielders, 5 with Lockyer if pushed, that's enough for me. We're just weak on the wings in my view but there's still time for loan signings.
Add a winger or 2 plus a young loanee striker and I doubt most of us expected much more this summer?
This is the 3rd or 4th summer the OP's been similarly negative, I guess he gets depressed missing his football over the summer?
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 24, 2015 11:10:46 GMT
I was answering Gashead85 post. Hardly getting depressed, I am in fact very much looking forward to this season BUT I have in my post given my opinion that at the present time there are too many unknowns to predict where we will finish. On to your points ,Stuart Sinclair plays a certain way and is great at what he does ,if you take the running all over the place out of his game then you cut his effectiveness by 50% possibly more. All I am saying is that if you play a Lines-Sinclair partnership as somebody suggested (not me!!) then you stand a good chance of being out numbered and over run. I agree with you that we are weak on the wings and you seem to agree with me that 3 signings are necessary. I just feel that if you are weak in a position at the start of a season then you should be signing either a permanent signingt OR a Season long loan. Other loans should IMO be in emergency. As regards your point about what most of us expected then don't shoot the messenger when the Manager says he wants to sign 4 or 5 players and that was before Monkhouse, Trotman or Balanta had left. I am sure from that statement most expected more than Lines,Clarke and Mantano!! I do however agree with you Toppergas that if we get 2 more wingers and a striker (not a young loanee one as we already have Lucas in that bracket and Taylor/Harrison and Blissett could all be considered young and inexperienced at this level.) then we will be in a reasonable position. As I have said how will we do..I don't know ,that is not being depressive,far from it,it is just being truthful. It could prove to be a great team in this League if the players who have not played at this level make the step up but don't mix up depression and honesty.
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Post by kylegas on Jul 24, 2015 11:31:57 GMT
I said it on a previous thread, I think we have a starting 11 that could be top 7, but a squad depth that could see us finish more like mid table, I hope we see a few good loans come in
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Post by kylegas on Jul 24, 2015 11:35:08 GMT
Unless we bring in a quality winger I can see us finishing mid table at best Montano looks like he has an awful lot of quality
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Post by TopperJR on Jul 24, 2015 11:42:27 GMT
Unless we bring in a quality winger I can see us finishing mid table at best Montano looks like he has an awful lot of quality Agreed and Gosling looked one of our standout players on Tuesday. The winger situation really isn't a dire as people make out.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jul 24, 2015 11:52:48 GMT
I was answering Gashead85 post. Hardly getting depressed, I am in fact very much looking forward to this season BUT I have in my post given my opinion that at the present time there are too many unknowns to predict where we will finish. On to your points ,Stuart Sinclair plays a certain way and is great at what he does ,if you take the running all over the place out of his game then you cut his effectiveness by 50% possibly more. All I am saying is that if you play a Lines-Sinclair partnership as somebody suggested (not me!!) then you stand a good chance of being out numbered and over run. I agree with you that we are weak on the wings and you seem to agree with me that 3 signings are necessary. I just feel that if you are weak in a position at the start of a season then you should be signing either a permanent signingt OR a Season long loan. Other loans should IMO be in emergency. As regards your point about what most of us expected then don't shoot the messenger when the Manager says he wants to sign 4 or 5 players and that was before Monkhouse, Trotman or Balanta had left. I am sure from that statement most expected more than Lines,Clarke and Mantano!! I do however agree with you Toppergas that if we get 2 more wingers and a striker (not a young loanee one as we already have Lucas in that bracket and Taylor/Harrison and Blissett could all be considered young and inexperienced at this level.) then we will be in a reasonable position. As I have said how will we do..I don't know ,that is not being depressive,far from it,it is just being truthful. It could prove to be a great team in this League if the players who have not played at this level make the step up but don't mix up depression and honesty. Can't argue with this. The problem isn't whether most of the midfielders individually are good enough, it's whether we have the right mix. We need someone to sit in alongside Lines or Sinclair if we play 2 in the middle. That player at the moment is Mansell but there is a question mark over whether he can be as effective at his age moving back into league 2. Hopefully he will be. Now I personally would like to see a midfield 3 of Mansell sitting behind Lines and Sinclair. That would give us the opportunity to dominate the midfield against most teams. Also, Lockyer would be an adequate replacement for Mansell in this situation. I'm not sure if we have the players in other positions to make this work, however.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 12:15:17 GMT
SS is hardly an inexperienced kid surely he understands the role better than most of us posting our own views on a fans forum?We've 4 midfielders, 5 with Lockyer if pushed, that's enough for me. We're just weak on the wings in my view but there's still time for loan signings. Add a winger or 2 plus a young loanee striker and I doubt most of us expected much more this summer? This is the 3rd or 4th summer the OP's been similarly negative, I guess he gets depressed missing his football over the summer? I wonder if that's actually true? He is clearly a better footballer than posters on here but that doesn't mean he understands the role better at all. Some football fans are extremely knowledgeable about how the game should be played and of course watch/study the game. Our players are not beyond criticism, improvement or education, just because they get paid to play. Most of the best coaches in every sport have never competed at top level and a low number of top performers go on to teach. Stus all action approach will find himself caught out of position of he is in a 2 with Lines. Any coach worth their salt will work out quickly that he will chase a lost cause or his own mistake...therefore, for example he can be manipulated to an area of the pitch by chasing then his void can be exposed. It's not difficult when you know how. Also, I used to give stevek right stick for being what I thought was overly critical too often. I've since realised that stevek offers interesting slants on things always backed up with lengthy opinion and reasoning.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 12:24:30 GMT
I was answering Gashead85 post. Hardly getting depressed, I am in fact very much looking forward to this season BUT I have in my post given my opinion that at the present time there are too many unknowns to predict where we will finish. On to your points ,Stuart Sinclair plays a certain way and is great at what he does ,if you take the running all over the place out of his game then you cut his effectiveness by 50% possibly more. All I am saying is that if you play a Lines-Sinclair partnership as somebody suggested (not me!!) then you stand a good chance of being out numbered and over run. I agree with you that we are weak on the wings and you seem to agree with me that 3 signings are necessary. I just feel that if you are weak in a position at the start of a season then you should be signing either a permanent signingt OR a Season long loan. Other loans should IMO be in emergency. As regards your point about what most of us expected then don't shoot the messenger when the Manager says he wants to sign 4 or 5 players and that was before Monkhouse, Trotman or Balanta had left. I am sure from that statement most expected more than Lines,Clarke and Mantano!! I do however agree with you Toppergas that if we get 2 more wingers and a striker (not a young loanee one as we already have Lucas in that bracket and Taylor/Harrison and Blissett could all be considered young and inexperienced at this level.) then we will be in a reasonable position. As I have said how will we do..I don't know ,that is not being depressive,far from it,it is just being truthful. It could prove to be a great team in this League if the players who have not played at this level make the step up but don't mix up depression and honesty. Can't argue with this. The problem isn't whether most of the midfielders individually are good enough, it's whether we have the right mix. We need someone to sit in alongside Lines or Sinclair if we play 2 in the middle. That player at the moment is Mansell but there is a question mark over whether he can be as effective at his age moving back into league 2. Hopefully he will be. Now I personally would like to see a midfield 3 of Mansell sitting behind Lines and Sinclair. That would give us the opportunity to dominate the midfield against most teams. Also, Lockyer would be an adequate replacement for Mansell in this situation. I'm not sure if we have the players in other positions to make this work, however..... Midfield 3 allowed by 1 striker and wing backs or 3 in a 4-3-3? I would be surprised not to see 2 dedicated strikers in most games this year. Bliss won't get put there on his own and 1 of the little guys would be a dream for the opposition. Ellis maybe but the ball won't stick enough in the areas we want it. If it is Lines and SS in there, SS will have to adapt his game and we won't see the same player. I reckon he will use him wide occasionally.
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Post by Nortongashead on Jul 24, 2015 13:54:10 GMT
The current squad as it stands is more than a match for most sides in L2. Our Achilles heal when we got relegated from L2 was creativity and injuries, if we address these this season we'll be fine. Lines and Montano are 2 creative additions with another winger added we should be ok. We have young players such as Gosling and O.Olarke who will be squad players that are used to playing in front of a large expectant crowds and score goals, with is worth a lot when coming in to do a job. We are hard to beat just need that bit of quality to open teams up in the final third. Over to you DC.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 24, 2015 14:01:24 GMT
I can't see what's wrong with a Lines/Mansel pairing with SS as back up for either when needed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 14:26:21 GMT
2 players worry me for next season.
Firstly Sinclair it is admirable to run all over the pitch for 90 minutes but has he the discipline to sit in central midfield to allow Lines to play the creator.i have my doubts I think his exuberance will take over and he will revert to the all action player you all love,leaving a massive gap in midfield.
Secondlty it is Taylor admittedly he scored 20 plus last season,but his conversion rate was about 1 in 5,he is not going to get that number af chances in league 2 so he will have to learn how to make more of the opportunities he gets.Can he do it? I remain to be convinced
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 17:06:30 GMT
I agree because SS covers too much ground which will leave Lines exposed in there. Both players are box to box but in different styles so our MF will be void. How can you cover too much ground if you are a central midfielder ? Surely box to box and a good work ethic is what it's all about. when sinclair and mansell played together both were very restricted regarding forward runs especially away from home ,,sinclair pushed on more when we were losing often to good effect.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 18:55:36 GMT
Comparing our side this year to the relegation side. Defence- mainly the same players so about equal. Midfield- way better now. Attack - also way better now. Conclusion.If we can avoid injuries to the likes of Parkes,Lines and Easter/Taylor/Harrison,the squad as it is right now could easily be capable of a top 7 finish,and if we were to pick up a couple more quality players,be it loan deals or permanent signings(unlikely at this stage I know),then top 3 is a realistic target imo.This team will go for it balls out this season and make it our first ever back to back promotion.Confidence,we got it.
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Post by socrates on Jul 24, 2015 19:05:13 GMT
To be fair we started last season with only gosling in the squad as just the one and only natural winger unless I've forgotten anybody ? We brought some good young wingers in on loan and I think DC will do the same again.
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Post by socrates on Jul 24, 2015 19:09:29 GMT
2 players worry me for next season. Firstly Sinclair it is admirable to run all over the pitch for 90 minutes but has he the discipline to sit in central midfield to allow Lines to play the creator.i have my doubts I think his exuberance will take over and he will revert to the all action player you all love,leaving a massive gap in midfield. Secondlty it is Taylor admittedly he scored 20 plus last season,but his conversion rate was about 1 in 5,he is not going to get that number af chances in league 2 so he will have to learn how to make more of the opportunities he gets.Can he do it? I remain to be convinced I see what your saying on both points but taylor scored the difficult chances and missed the one on ones last season. I agree he won't get as many clear cut chances but he doesn't score them anyway so I think he'll be fine. The midfield partnership will start as Mans and Lines and sinclair will probably play the monk house role only on the right and I think we'll sign a left footed winger for the left. I think we'll be fine this season and pushing for top 7
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 19:13:38 GMT
So at last out leader sets a target that realistically we might expect to reach. Great leadership. Winners don't consolidate. So now we know the realistic target. Ground breaking target to be agreed
"We want to build on the success of last season and have a right good go in League Two this year," he said.
"I don't want to hide behind the fact we've got promoted, so let's consolidate.
"I want my players to show they can perform in the top seven of League Two and we'll see how we go."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2015 19:17:27 GMT
So at last out leader sets a target that realistically we might expect to reach. Great leadership. Winners don't consolidate. So now we know the realistic target. Ground breaking target to be agreed "We want to build on the success of last season and have a right good go in League Two this year," he said. "I don't want to hide behind the fact we've got promoted, so let's consolidate. "I want my players to show they can perform in the top seven of League Two and we'll see how we go." Welcome back. I love you.
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