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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 1, 2015 20:18:50 GMT
No worries I was agreeing with you! I was clearly to hasty posting to get their first when I head the BP article.
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Post by Severncider on Aug 1, 2015 20:31:11 GMT
Yes, if you want to split hairs, although if I'd titled it "another signing" no doubt somebody will have said didn't I mean our first loan signing! I apologise if my post sounded as if I was "splitting hairs". Just pointing out we don't have any loan signings yet, but as it is the way of the world for most lower league teams now, I fully expect us to have more than our fair share of loanees throughout this season. The current problem will be paying their wages, unless they come here wage free for us.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 1, 2015 20:52:35 GMT
Can't we just accept that DC has a different opinion from those who seem to want Dawson at any price?n surely this is end of. get over it and move on. UTG!
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Post by RD on Aug 1, 2015 20:58:45 GMT
A young winger from a Prem/Championship club is a joke. Was not Adam Dawson a young winger with a Championship/Premiership club and yet the very reason Clarke gave was that he was not experienced enough at League Football. This is a desperation signing within a very poor League budget. Thankyou Higgs and Co. Why is it a joke? People talk about Adam Dawson like he was some world beater. He was a DECENT player but I'm not really sure what all the fuss is about. There is a huge chance the player lined up on loan is better than Dawson. A young winger from a Premiership club (potentially) - a league many pundits call the best league in the world - is "a joke". No. Something that's easily more of a joke than that, is starting a thread calling the club an "embarrassment" after losing a meaningless friendly. Oh wait...
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 1, 2015 22:02:21 GMT
DC promised all last season's contracted players a contract if we got promoted hence why the like of Gosling were offered a contract, there's nothing weird with that.
Given DC achieved promotion last season then we just have to back his Judgement this summer, after all it was him who signed the likes of LDV & AD last season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 23:00:21 GMT
i quite liked dawson but never felt that dc was keen,,,if he has a great league 1 or 2 career with 300 appearances or maybe even above that level he will have proved dc wrong,,lets see what happens
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 2, 2015 0:10:44 GMT
Sorry RoverDrive you obviously (as usual) haven't got the point of what I wrote and why I used "Joke". The talk is of us getting a young winger from a Premiership/Championship club WHICH is exactly what Adam Dawson was!! Not so sure that you are right that there is a huge chance the player lined up (if he actually arrives and doesn't go somewhere else) will be any better!! We probably will never find out anyway.
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 2, 2015 6:26:24 GMT
Dawson wants in excess of £1200 a week. Which for a player of no FL experience is too high and the reason why we won't sign him and Kidderminster won't sign him on the cheap. He was on just shy of £3k a week at Leicester.
If we start paying those contracts again DC will not be doing his job properly and we keep getting the tag of paying over inflated prices for players that aren't good enough.
I am not disagreeing that he is a very good prospect, in fact he was a stand out player for us last year, but he also disappeared in some of the bigger games against the stronger opposition in the conference. Which is, as you say Steve, a lot like L2.
Why don't we all just trust what DC is doing. So far he has proven an eye for a good player and has made many dud signings.
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Post by cagastrophy on Aug 2, 2015 7:01:17 GMT
hoho Steve, a desperation signing would be a loan from a fellow league 2 club, please don't discourage players from joining us
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 2, 2015 8:15:11 GMT
Dawson wants in excess of £1200 a week. Which for a player of no FL experience is too high and the reason why we won't sign him and Kidderminster won't sign him on the cheap. He was on just shy of £3k a week at Leicester. If we start paying those contracts again DC will not be doing his job properly and we keep getting the tag of paying over inflated prices for players that aren't good enough. I am not disagreeing that he is a very good prospect, in fact he was a stand out player for us last year, but he also disappeared in some of the bigger games against the stronger opposition in the conference. Which is, as you say Steve, a lot like L2. Why don't we all just trust what DC is doing. So far he has proven an eye for a good player and has made many dud signings. Kidderminster have major financial problems hence why they sold/released virtually every first team player last season, there's simply no way they'll be paying AD more than half that figure. If he'd signed for FGR or Eastleigh I'd have accepted he'd priced himself out of a move but your sources must be wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 8:33:56 GMT
Dawson wants in excess of £1200 a week. Which for a player of no FL experience is too high and the reason why we won't sign him and Kidderminster won't sign him on the cheap. He was on just shy of £3k a week at Leicester. If we start paying those contracts again DC will not be doing his job properly and we keep getting the tag of paying over inflated prices for players that aren't good enough. I am not disagreeing that he is a very good prospect, in fact he was a stand out player for us last year, but he also disappeared in some of the bigger games against the stronger opposition in the conference. Which is, as you say Steve, a lot like L2. Why don't we all just trust what DC is doing. So far he has proven an eye for a good player and has made many dud signings. Where did you get that figure from? I read a text from AD yesterday and that's not the figure he asked for.
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Post by banjogas on Aug 2, 2015 9:44:33 GMT
When we signed Dawson the forum warriors bashed the board for not resigning LDV.
In Darrell we trust, if Dawson was that good why has he signed for Kidderminster? He had a great debut but after that he was predictable one trick pony.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 10:04:01 GMT
Forum warriors?
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Post by banjogas on Aug 2, 2015 10:08:39 GMT
DEFINITION Forum Warrior A person who spends a considerable amount of time on internet forums dedicated to specific interests (music, games, etc). Consider themselves experts on said specific interest while (usually) not contributing anything to the interest themselves. A good size of their input, often the majority of it, is negative; they reason that this is the easiest way to prove themselves knowledgeable on the subject. They have little clout in real life regarding whatever topic the forum is dedicated to, so the forum is the only way they can feel they are contributing. Person 1: Why does John spend hours each day reviewing songs and albums on the rock music forum, calling most of what he reviews terrible, when he doesn't play an instrument or contribute to music himself? Person 2: Because he's a stupid forum warrior, that's why.
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Post by Raj Gas on Aug 2, 2015 10:26:08 GMT
Us Gasheads seem to have a fixation about wingers, we have seen hundreds come through the club since I started back in the 70's and I can count on one hand those classified as "decent"
I actually don't think we need 2 out and out wingers, The Mem pitch I don't think is geared up for them and WBA proved it's much is better for players to pass the ball quickly and in to space to do the damage.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 10:54:15 GMT
DEFINITION Forum Warrior A person who spends a considerable amount of time on internet forums dedicated to specific interests (music, games, etc). Consider themselves experts on said specific interest while (usually) not contributing anything to the interest themselves. A good size of their input, often the majority of it, is negative; they reason that this is the easiest way to prove themselves knowledgeable on the subject. They have little clout in real life regarding whatever topic the forum is dedicated to, so the forum is the only way they can feel they are contributing. Person 1: Why does John spend hours each day reviewing songs and albums on the rock music forum, calling most of what he reviews terrible, when he doesn't play an instrument or contribute to music himself? Person 2: Because he's a stupid forum warrior, that's why. That's a bit like me!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 10:59:01 GMT
Us Gasheads seem to have a fixation about wingers, we have seen hundreds come through the club since I started back in the 70's and I can count on one hand those classified as "decent" I actually don't think we need 2 out and out wingers, The Mem pitch I don't think is geared up for them and WBA proved it's much is better for players to pass the ball quickly and in to space to do the damage. Nothing to do with wba being far superior in every department then? I feel that ti get the best out of certain strikers you need wingers. As a former CB a ball delivered from the goal line is more dangerous than straight balls down the middle. Just think about it from a strikers point of view, especially if you are small.
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Post by mlewton30 on Aug 2, 2015 11:46:55 GMT
Dawson wants in excess of £1200 a week. Which for a player of no FL experience is too high and the reason why we won't sign him and Kidderminster won't sign him on the cheap. He was on just shy of £3k a week at Leicester. If we start paying those contracts again DC will not be doing his job properly and we keep getting the tag of paying over inflated prices for players that aren't good enough. I am not disagreeing that he is a very good prospect, in fact he was a stand out player for us last year, but he also disappeared in some of the bigger games against the stronger opposition in the conference. Which is, as you say Steve, a lot like L2. Why don't we all just trust what DC is doing. So far he has proven an eye for a good player and has made many dud signings. I wouldn't normally do this but this needs to be put to bed and both move on..... knowing Adam really well, knowing the deal that Adam was on at Leicester, knowing the loan deal that we did at Bristol Rovers and now currently at Kidderminster where have you manage to pluck these numbers from as you are making him out to be some money grabbing disrespectful pro??? Without being disrespectful to Adam for discussing his wages but you are way off the mark..... You really think he was on 3k a week at Leicester, you really think Bristol would have given him £1200 if we asked for that which we didn't, you think Kidderminster would be paying £1200 a week..... Adam loved his time at Bristol last season and played a part in getting the club to the playoffs which he was there for the semi's and the final, there were times he was excellent, there were times he had ok games but one thing he loved was playing for Darrell and Bristol Rovers. Darrell made it clear that he wanted a player(winger) with proven league experience to us and wished Adam all the best in his next chapter and if ever needed a reference or anything he would do so. Adam had to respect that decision and has now signed for Kidderminster. You never know he may return one day but he will now enjoy his time at Kiddy and hopefully kick on from there.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 2, 2015 11:56:05 GMT
Us Gasheads seem to have a fixation about wingers, we have seen hundreds come through the club since I started back in the 70's and I can count on one hand those classified as "decent" I actually don't think we need 2 out and out wingers, The Mem pitch I don't think is geared up for them and WBA proved it's much is better for players to pass the ball quickly and in to space to do the damage. Perhaps. But Ward played centre mid players out wide and we were hopeless going forward.
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Post by pirateman on Aug 2, 2015 12:03:17 GMT
Us Gasheads seem to have a fixation about wingers, we have seen hundreds come through the club since I started back in the 70's and I can count on one hand those classified as "decent" I actually don't think we need 2 out and out wingers, The Mem pitch I don't think is geared up for them and WBA proved it's much is better for players to pass the ball quickly and in to space to do the damage. Perhaps. But Ward played centre mid players out wide and we were hopeless going forward. Agree re centre mids playing out wide, but there is a difference between a wide midfielder and a winger. I don't for example regard Monkhouse as a winger but IMO he did a good job as a wide midfielder.
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