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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 10, 2015 19:47:09 GMT
No, but it is all part of how poorly the club is run, I couldn't by a shirt for Wembley, I couldn't buy a kids shirt on the open day and yesterday had to forego buying anything at the kiosks once I'd finally got in the ground.
It seems to me those at the top have simply lost interest in running BRFC, our Chairman apparently sooner go on holiday than watch us back in the FL.
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Post by bs10er on Aug 10, 2015 19:50:10 GMT
Gashead 79,I have just e-mailed BSS. Have had back 2 replies. TW and Higgs are on their hols! Brian is messaging Ian Holtby and Boycie!! Watch this space!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 19:55:23 GMT
Don't try and put words into my posts, its not good & certainly isn't clever. I asked the question because it seems they don't know. Before you ask, yes I do know how they're run, I used to be a manager at Dairycrest. I interviewed & employed milkmen, we trained them, then there comes a time when they go out on their own 2 feet for the first time, most time they worked perfectly, ofcourse you get the odd time when it didn't work, but we didn't find out until AFTER. Like I said, don't put words into my posts, it makes you sound desperate. And I worked in NHSSupplies, providing all materials on the wards and theatres in a big hospital. It was our job to make sure they had what they needed, but if there was any hint that something might not be right, Sisters and surgeons were on it in a flash, because it mattered to them. I realise that running a hospital is more important than flogging pasties to Bristol Rovers supporters, but - and this is key - making sure those supporters spend their money and like what they get for it SHOULD be important to BRFC, and so should manning the turnstiles properly for one hour a fortnight. And if I sound desperate it's because I bloody well am: desperate to see someone there take responsibility for putting right the most basic functions of running an event. You collect the money at the gate and you sell your customers some extras, without creating queues that look like people trying to join Noah in the Ark. Yes it was your job to make sure they had bedding & materials etc, if you ran out you could run to a cupboard and get extra supplies, yes? When you run out of food you can't just run to a cupboard and get extra food. I totally agree RE:turnstiles, first game of season big crowd and one operator isn't good enough. But I have to stand up for the board when required, and I honestly think it's here.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 10, 2015 19:55:52 GMT
Gashead 79,I have just e-mailed BSS. Have had back 2 replies. TW and Higgs are on their hols! Brian is messaging Ian Holtby and Boycie!! Watch this space!! Well done, but don't hold your breath! BSS needs to read this thread and then make sure all the Directors see the content to really understand the depth of feeling. We all desperately want the club to be successful and the criticism is borne out of frustration and a desire for them to take note and improve things!
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Post by bs10er on Aug 10, 2015 20:01:13 GMT
According to Brian,he had read this thread Rod,but as you said,whether the club(Holtby?)responds is another matter. Am pretty sure Brian might agree with most that has been written on subject.
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Post by Mark Ash on Aug 10, 2015 20:02:56 GMT
And I worked in NHSSupplies, providing all materials on the wards and theatres in a big hospital. It was our job to make sure they had what they needed, but if there was any hint that something might not be right, Sisters and surgeons were on it in a flash, because it mattered to them. I realise that running a hospital is more important than flogging pasties to Bristol Rovers supporters, but - and this is key - making sure those supporters spend their money and like what they get for it SHOULD be important to BRFC, and so should manning the turnstiles properly for one hour a fortnight. And if I sound desperate it's because I bloody well am: desperate to see someone there take responsibility for putting right the most basic functions of running an event. You collect the money at the gate and you sell your customers some extras, without creating queues that look like people trying to join Noah in the Ark. Yes it was your job to make sure they had bedding & materials etc, if you ran out you could run to a cupboard and get extra supplies, yes? When you run out of food you can't just run to a cupboard and get extra food. I totally agree RE:turnstiles, first game of season big crowd and one operator isn't good enough. But I have to stand up for the board when required, and I honestly think it's here. No, it was my job to make sure those cupboards themselves were stocked to the right levels, having anticipated usage and ordered it in from elsewhere three days before. A bit more tricky than stockpiling pasties in the freezer - or effing crisps and cokes in the South Stand!
Look, I appreciate that you want to defend the club. I too get fed up with people criticising. However, there comes a point IMO where we just make things worse by accepting such blundering amateurishness. To man only one turnstile in the Blackthorn at such a time and then let people in for nothing is sackable as far as I am concerned.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 20:03:41 GMT
According to Brian,he had read this thread Rod,but as you said,whether the club(Holtby?)responds is another matter. Am pretty sure Brian might agree with most that has been written on subject. How are you sure he will agree with most posts? Can you read peoples minds?
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Post by Mark Ash on Aug 10, 2015 20:06:01 GMT
Although, good luck to the people who got in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 20:08:13 GMT
Yes it was your job to make sure they had bedding & materials etc, if you ran out you could run to a cupboard and get extra supplies, yes? When you run out of food you can't just run to a cupboard and get extra food. I totally agree RE:turnstiles, first game of season big crowd and one operator isn't good enough. But I have to stand up for the board when required, and I honestly think it's here. No, it was my job to make sure those cupboards themselves were stocked to the right levels, having anticipated usage and ordered it in from elsewhere three days before. A bit more tricky than stockpiling pasties in the freezer - or effing crisps and cokes in the South Stand!
Look, I appreciate that you want to defend the club. I too get fed up with people criticising. However, there comes a point IMO where we just make things worse by accepting such blundering amateurishness. To man only one turnstile in the Blackthorn at such a time and then let people in for nothing is sackable as far as I am concerned.
So those cupboards were stocked all day every day, not once were they empty? As I said previously, I agree with you about the turnstiles.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 10, 2015 20:11:53 GMT
Give it a rest Gaz - it's not about whether it's easier to stock medical equipment or pasties - it's about have sufficient business acumen, practices and procedures, to manage a football club and to take every opportunity to maximise revenue and the football experience for the fans - and thus the ongoing viability of the club we all love.
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Post by Mark Ash on Aug 10, 2015 20:20:25 GMT
No, it was my job to make sure those cupboards themselves were stocked to the right levels, having anticipated usage and ordered it in from elsewhere three days before. A bit more tricky than stockpiling pasties in the freezer - or effing crisps and cokes in the South Stand!
Look, I appreciate that you want to defend the club. I too get fed up with people criticising. However, there comes a point IMO where we just make things worse by accepting such blundering amateurishness. To man only one turnstile in the Blackthorn at such a time and then let people in for nothing is sackable as far as I am concerned.
So those cupboards were stocked all day every day, not once were they empty? As I said previously, I agree with you about the turnstiles. But it isn't once is it? You've had lots of examples on here of mess up after mess up! They couldn't even get the day right in the programme for the Birmingham game. It's endless. Sorry, but it's really getting to me now. Look at the poxy scoreboard fiasco. Any board or even no board is better than a broken one, month after month. I feel like buying an old cricket blackboard and standing there at the side of the pitch, hanging white numbers on it when the score changes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 20:23:55 GMT
The problem is one of cumulative f**k ups.
I want nothing more than our current board to improve and succeed.
But it's just one thing after another after another.
You can make an argument that each thing is small and petty minded but it's like payday loan compound interest...it all soon mounts up.
The other thing is one of perspective. We have been basically sh**e since 2007. That's 8 years. There are grown men watching Rovers who have known nothing but utter failure and a club in chronic demise.
Christ knows how we are going to attract the next generation if they can't buy a shirt, can't get in and can't buy a bag of crisps. It's a f**king joke. Carry on like this and the club will be dead in 30yrs when the last of us who can remember what a decent football club was like have shuffled off. Or died, which ever happens first.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 20:24:20 GMT
Give it a rest Gaz - it's not about whether it's easier to stock medical equipment or pasties - it's about have sufficient business acumen, practices and procedures, to manage a football club and to take every opportunity to maximise revenue and the football experience for the fans - and thus the ongoing viability of the club we all love. OK I'll give it a rest, thought it was all about opinions though. Don't agree with the many on here then your f**ked. If I don't agree with someone I'll openly tell 'em, I thought the other forum didn't like different opinions, this one is just as bad. Let's all think alike eh Rod.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 20:29:53 GMT
So those cupboards were stocked all day every day, not once were they empty? As I said previously, I agree with you about the turnstiles. But it isn't once is it? You've had lots of examples on here of mess up after mess up! They couldn't even get the day right in the programme for the Birmingham game. It's endless. Sorry, but it's really getting to me now. Look at the poxy scoreboard fiasco. Any board or even no board is better than a broken one, month after month. I feel like buying an old cricket blackboard and standing there at the side of the pitch, hanging white numbers on it when the score changes. Jesus Christ, where have I posted anything a scoreboard? Where have I posted anything about a programme? As I posted earlier, don't put words into my posts, its not good, and it certainly isn't clever. You sound desperate. I agree with you about the turnstiles ffs.
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Post by LJG on Aug 10, 2015 20:40:16 GMT
BRFC Do not own or run the pasty hut's, they're franchised out. Never mind let's blame BRFC anyway. I'm not entirely convinced BRFC have absolutely zero to do with the pasty huts since on Saturday it was one of the yellow jacket with ear radio stewards who asked the main woman at ours (West enc) what she was running low on and then announced to the queue that there were only 5 pasties left. If they're nothing at all to do with BRFC then why are groundstaff doing stock checks on them?
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Post by Strange Gas on Aug 10, 2015 20:42:15 GMT
And some people believe our glorious club could manage a range of "income streams"? Tenant in a properly managed sports stadium facility has gotta be preferable!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 20:47:05 GMT
BRFC Do not own or run the pasty hut's, they're franchised out. Never mind let's blame BRFC anyway. I'm not entirely convinced BRFC have absolutely zero to do with the pasty huts since on Saturday it was one of the yellow jacket with ear radio stewards who asked the main woman at ours (West enc) what she was running low on and then announced to the queue that there were only 5 pasties left. If they're nothing at all to do with BRFC then why are groundstaff doing stock checks on them? Like I said, 'BRFC do not run the pasty huts'
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Post by LJG on Aug 10, 2015 20:47:54 GMT
I'm not entirely convinced BRFC have absolutely zero to do with the pasty huts since on Saturday it was one of the yellow jacket with ear radio stewards who asked the main woman at ours (West enc) what she was running low on and then announced to the queue that there were only 5 pasties left. If they're nothing at all to do with BRFC then why are groundstaff doing stock checks on them? Like I said, 'BRFC do not own or run the pasty huts' So why are BRFC staff involved in the running of them?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 20:49:00 GMT
I'm not entirely convinced BRFC have absolutely zero to do with the pasty huts since on Saturday it was one of the yellow jacket with ear radio stewards who asked the main woman at ours (West enc) what she was running low on and then announced to the queue that there were only 5 pasties left. If they're nothing at all to do with BRFC then why are groundstaff doing stock checks on them? Like I said, 'BRFC do not run the pasty huts' They don't run them but they are responsible for them. You must see that surely?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 20:54:35 GMT
Like I said, 'BRFC do not run the pasty huts' They don't run them but they are responsible for them. You must see that surely? Yes, but you can't put the blame on them after the first game. Have you ever been to a game/gig/anything similar where food has run out? Can everyone on here not admit this?
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