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Post by Raj Gas on Aug 19, 2015 20:31:52 GMT
All credit to DC he has found a formation that has produced two excellent results, gets the best out of Sinclair, Clarke and Lockyer,
And we are worrying about one player - A player who proved his quality at the end of last season and no doubt will get over his poor spell but this is a team game and my team are doing well!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 22:21:24 GMT
I bet I make more than you given I don't live in Bristol so keep fishing. Only person obsessed is you and your inability not to comment on absolutely everything and contribute absolutely zilch. We are used to it and the fact you bite so quickly is testament to your inability to comprehend that most of us just laugh at you now. I am entitled to my opinion on Lines and I will voice it for as long he continues to under perform in some peoples eyes. In my opinion he isn't under performing, he just isn't very good and never actually was. Be interesting to see what happens when Mansell comes back. Lines has the ideal opportunity to shine now and that he is at a lower level. Do I expect him to grasp that with both hands...not really. do you agree he was very good during his loan spell last season? im not certain lines is going to have a good season and i dont like him taking all the set pieces but its a bit early to to slate him maybe?
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Post by c4h10 on Aug 19, 2015 22:48:58 GMT
Regardless of whether Lines has had a good start to the season what does the OP feel the club should do, everybody accepted, bar the OP, he helped us achieve promotion and deserve a bit of a gamble on us taking over the remainder of his PV contract all we can hope is that he comes good soon, given we never have much success at signing creative midfielders, in fact they've all been failures since Lines left! I hope the club and DC in particular do not accept the nonsense from Lines and his entourage that he should be treated as the exemption because he is a local lad. This 'he's one of our own' is complete bollocks. He is back here with us because no other bugger wanted him or meet his wage demands.
Remember this. Lines was one the clique who downed tools when Penney came in. That in my mind is unforgiveable in any profession. All in support of Campbell. We then suffered four of the bleakest years in our footballing history. Buckle made lots of mistakes when he was here but getting rid of Lines was a fantastic piece of business when you consider the money he made in transfer fees for the likes of Carayol and Smith.
If Lines couldn't perform at Vanarama Level then he had no future in the game but his arrival WAS NOT the reason we got promoted. If Sinclair had stayed fit Lines probably wouldn't be at the club now. Lines had a contract to play for at the end of last season. He now has that contract, has been made Captain which I found staggering as he isn't a leader of men.
As I have said previously, I would never have had him back and I am still waiting to see this 'creative midfielder' we supposedly have. At what point in his career with us was he ever creative. His assist stats clearly back up my point as does his goals to games ratio.
We are all entitled to our opinion(s), and you have clearly and honestly stated yours here. What a pity then that your opening post is shown to be underhand - in fact I think the best word to describe it is snide. Hidden meanings have no place in genuine discussion.
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Post by joebananas67 on Aug 19, 2015 22:53:52 GMT
I bet I make more than you given I don't live in Bristol so keep fishing. Only person obsessed is you and your inability not to comment on absolutely everything and contribute absolutely zilch. We are used to it and the fact you bite so quickly is testament to your inability to comprehend that most of us just laugh at you now. I am entitled to my opinion on Lines and I will voice it for as long he continues to under perform in some peoples eyes. In my opinion he isn't under performing, he just isn't very good and never actually was. Be interesting to see what happens when Mansell comes back. Lines has the ideal opportunity to shine now and that he is at a lower level. Do I expect him to grasp that with both hands...not really. do you agree he was very good during his loan spell last season? im not certain lines is going to have a good season and i dont like him taking all the set pieces but its a bit early to to slate him maybe? Not really no. With the exception of the goal against FGR and setting up Ellis at Halifax he was no more stand out than any other player. In fact it is easy to argue that Ellis and Matty were on fire and Lines did very little to supply the goal chain. How many assists did he have in conparison to Brown or Monkhouse. How many clean sheets did the back five have. Lines was no more stand out than any of them yet reading stuff on here you'd think he was the sole reason we reached the pkay-offs and won at Wembley, His assists and goal ratio is very poor and always has been. I think he is overrated and lazy and i trust in DC to either make him step up to the mark or ship him out.
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 19, 2015 23:40:43 GMT
We could have easily had 4 goals from set pieces in the last two games. Don't let your facts get in the way of Kiaran's personal vendetta.
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Post by costahotshot on Aug 20, 2015 6:43:28 GMT
I cannot believe some of the rubbish on here, Chris Lines is a class act and he truly is one of our own. Just remember that form is temporary but class is permanent
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Post by LJG on Aug 20, 2015 7:36:04 GMT
Regardless of whether Lines has had a good start to the season what does the OP feel the club should do, everybody accepted, bar the OP, he helped us achieve promotion and deserve a bit of a gamble on us taking over the remainder of his PV contract all we can hope is that he comes good soon, given we never have much success at signing creative midfielders, in fact they've all been failures since Lines left! I hope the club and DC in particular do not accept the nonsense from Lines and his entourage that he should be treated as the exemption because he is a local lad. This 'he's one of our own' is complete bollocks. He is back here with us because no other bugger wanted him or meet his wage demands.
Remember this. Lines was one the clique who downed tools when Penney came in. That in my mind is unforgiveable in any profession. All in support of Campbell. We then suffered four of the bleakest years in our footballing history. Buckle made lots of mistakes when he was here but getting rid of Lines was a fantastic piece of business when you consider the money he made in transfer fees for the likes of Carayol and Smith.
If Lines couldn't perform at Vanarama Level then he had no future in the game but his arrival WAS NOT the reason we got promoted. If Sinclair had stayed fit Lines probably wouldn't be at the club now. Lines had a contract to play for at the end of last season. He now has that contract, has been made Captain which I found staggering as he isn't a leader of men.
As I have said previously, I would never have had him back and I am still waiting to see this 'creative midfielder' we supposedly have. At what point in his career with us was he ever creative. His assist stats clearly back up my point as does his goals to games ratio.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 20, 2015 7:38:26 GMT
do you agree he was very good during his loan spell last season? im not certain lines is going to have a good season and i dont like him taking all the set pieces but its a bit early to to slate him maybe? Not really no. With the exception of the goal against FGR and setting up Ellis at Halifax he was no more stand out than any other player. In fact it is easy to argue that Ellis and Matty were on fire and Lines did very little to supply the goal chain. How many assists did he have in conparison to Brown or Monkhouse. How many clean sheets did the back five have. Lines was no more stand out than any of them yet reading stuff on here you'd think he was the sole reason we reached the pkay-offs and won at Wembley, His assists and goal ratio is very poor and always has been. I think he is overrated and lazy and i trust in DC to either make him step up to the mark or ship him out. You're talking nonsense until Lines arrived we were struggling, his first game at Macclesfield was the shocking game but once Mansel joined him in midfield we tore the Conference apart, the stats were incredible with 6 wins out of 7 before Wembley, the only dropped points being the last minute goal at Dover, whilst averaging around 3 goals a game. As NH as been man enough to forget Lines past misdemeanours I think we should all start with a clean sheet, just rake up the past is pointless.
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Post by RD on Aug 20, 2015 7:44:59 GMT
I hope the club and DC in particular do not accept the nonsense from Lines and his entourage that he should be treated as the exemption because he is a local lad. This 'he's one of our own' is complete bollocks. He is back here with us because no other bugger wanted him or meet his wage demands.
Remember this. Lines was one the clique who downed tools when Penney came in. That in my mind is unforgiveable in any profession. All in support of Campbell. We then suffered four of the bleakest years in our footballing history. Buckle made lots of mistakes when he was here but getting rid of Lines was a fantastic piece of business when you consider the money he made in transfer fees for the likes of Carayol and Smith.
If Lines couldn't perform at Vanarama Level then he had no future in the game but his arrival WAS NOT the reason we got promoted. If Sinclair had stayed fit Lines probably wouldn't be at the club now. Lines had a contract to play for at the end of last season. He now has that contract, has been made Captain which I found staggering as he isn't a leader of men.
As I have said previously, I would never have had him back and I am still waiting to see this 'creative midfielder' we supposedly have. At what point in his career with us was he ever creative. His assist stats clearly back up my point as does his goals to games ratio.
He's definitely not @roadman
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 20, 2015 7:49:20 GMT
Chris Lines is a class act and he truly is one of our own That literally has no effect on his standard of play. I'm one of our own and I'm totally sh** at football.
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Post by RD on Aug 20, 2015 7:49:29 GMT
I made my viewpoint on Chris Lines very clear when we signed him last season.
He turned out to be a vital player in our run-in that led to promotion.
However, my fears were always based on what would happen once he's got his contract. So far, the signs have not been good.
I'm prepared however to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that it's purely coincidental. That said, you cannot get away from the fact that he's been poor so far this season.
Despite that, we are only three games in to the new season - there's plenty of time for him to turn it round.
His set-piece deliveries have been shocking so far this season, but the difference is that we know he has the ability as he proved it week in, week out last season. Form is temporary, class is permanent - and regardless of what you think of his overall game, I think when it comes to set-pieces, he definitely has class.
Keep the faith, support our boys and hopefully he'll turn them round.
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Post by costahotshot on Aug 20, 2015 8:08:28 GMT
Chris Lines is a class act and he truly is one of our own That literally has no effect on his standard of play. I'm one of our own and I'm totally sh** at football. Not good at football, is that a serious comment? I look forward to revisiting this thread later in the season, can we all not just get behind our team, it's only three games into the season !
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Post by joebananas67 on Aug 20, 2015 8:58:11 GMT
Not really no. With the exception of the goal against FGR and setting up Ellis at Halifax he was no more stand out than any other player. In fact it is easy to argue that Ellis and Matty were on fire and Lines did very little to supply the goal chain. How many assists did he have in conparison to Brown or Monkhouse. How many clean sheets did the back five have. Lines was no more stand out than any of them yet reading stuff on here you'd think he was the sole reason we reached the pkay-offs and won at Wembley, His assists and goal ratio is very poor and always has been. I think he is overrated and lazy and i trust in DC to either make him step up to the mark or ship him out. You're talking nonsense until Lines arrived we were struggling, his first game at Macclesfield was the shocking game but once Mansel joined him in midfield we tore the Conference apart, the stats were incredible with 6 wins out of 7 before Wembley, the only dropped points being the last minute goal at Dover, whilst averaging around 3 goals a game. As NH as been man enough to forget Lines past misdemeanours I think we should all start with a clean sheet, just rake up the past is pointless. Your post is so full of inaccuracies you should be embarrassed. 1. He made his debut at halifax and not Macclesfield 2, we were struggling before he arrived. Really? One league defeat in 17 is struggling. 3. He brought virtually no assists to the party and one goal. Compare that stat to any other midfield player and forward over the same period. Lines was given the ability to roam free due to thr work rate of Mansell.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 20, 2015 9:01:23 GMT
That literally has no effect on his standard of play. I'm one of our own and I'm totally sh** at football. Not good at football, is that a serious comment? I look forward to revisiting this thread later in the season, can we all not just get behind our team, it's only three games into the season ! Wait, what?
All I'm saying is him being "one of our own" as you say has no actual effect on his footballing ability. I wouldn't care if he was a shithead as long as he plays well. Using the fact he's from Bristol to argue that his set pieces haven't been poor is just plain daft. Back your argument up with something more substantial than "he's from Filton". For the record I haven't criticised Lines once on this thread...
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Post by RD on Aug 20, 2015 9:13:11 GMT
Not good at football, is that a serious comment? I look forward to revisiting this thread later in the season, can we all not just get behind our team, it's only three games into the season ! Wait, what?
All I'm saying is him being "one of our own" as you say has no actual effect on his footballing ability. I wouldn't care if he was a shithead as long as he plays well. Using the fact he's from Bristol to argue that his set pieces haven't been poor is just plain daft. Back your argument up with something more substantial than "he's from Filton". For the record I haven't criticised Lines once on this thread...
I assumed he meant to reply/quote someone else's post, as the reply made no sense whatsoever in relation to what you posted
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Post by costahotshot on Aug 20, 2015 9:23:49 GMT
Not good at football, is that a serious comment? I look forward to revisiting this thread later in the season, can we all not just get behind our team, it's only three games into the season ! Wait, what?
All I'm saying is him being "one of our own" as you say has no actual effect on his footballing ability. I wouldn't care if he was a shithead as long as he plays well. Using the fact he's from Bristol to argue that his set pieces haven't been poor is just plain daft. Back your argument up with something more substantial than "he's from Filton". For the record I haven't criticised Lines once on this thread...
My mistake, I took your statement " I'm s••• at football" as a reference to CL, sincere apologies
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 20, 2015 9:34:23 GMT
Wait, what?
All I'm saying is him being "one of our own" as you say has no actual effect on his footballing ability. I wouldn't care if he was a shithead as long as he plays well. Using the fact he's from Bristol to argue that his set pieces haven't been poor is just plain daft. Back your argument up with something more substantial than "he's from Filton". For the record I haven't criticised Lines once on this thread...
My mistake, I took your statement " I'm s••• at football" as a reference to CL, sincere apologies Easy mistake. Best wishes,
Linesy x
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Post by LJG on Aug 20, 2015 9:51:02 GMT
You're talking nonsense until Lines arrived we were struggling, his first game at Macclesfield was the shocking game but once Mansel joined him in midfield we tore the Conference apart, the stats were incredible with 6 wins out of 7 before Wembley, the only dropped points being the last minute goal at Dover, whilst averaging around 3 goals a game. As NH as been man enough to forget Lines past misdemeanours I think we should all start with a clean sheet, just rake up the past is pointless. Your post is so full of inaccuracies you should be embarrassed. 1. He made his debut at halifax and not Macclesfield 2, we were struggling before he arrived. Really? One league defeat in 17 is struggling. 3. He brought virtually no assists to the party and one goal. Compare that stat to any other midfield player and forward over the same period. Lines was given the ability to roam free due to thr work rate of Mansell.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 20, 2015 9:53:30 GMT
Been poor so far this season, but he'll 100% come good IMO.
He's only on a year's contract, so hardly has much of a contract to 'sit on' and milk.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 10:37:33 GMT
Been poor so far this season, but he'll 100% come good IMO. He's only on a year's contract, so hardly has much of a contract to 'sit on' and milk. i would think 2 years?
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