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Post by Centenary Gas on Sept 26, 2015 16:24:05 GMT
Terry on the radio was right, Portsmouth have much better players than us.
But what do people expect? Their wage budget is considerably higher than ours. Losing that court case mean't DC had very little flexibility with the budget. Second half, only our loan goalkeeper and winger on a three month contract were new signings, apart from that it was our Conference team.
Before the start of the season, people said they would be happy with a top half finish pushing for the playoffs. Well that's exactly what we are heading for. We aren't going to get promoted every year.
Our home record maybe bad, but it's been far from easy. Apart from Accrington (which is hardly Newport this year), Oxford (robbed), Northampton and Portsmouth (probably going to win the league) is a hard start. Reverse our home and away fixtures/results and people would probably feel it's a decent start.
As far as the current squad is concerned, I have confidence in DC. He had the same exact problem last year, when people were writing off the same players. I do wish the midfield would improve their forward movement. Movement causes defenders problems, when someone has the ball approaching the final third, we need players to be bombing past them opening their defense and forcing mistakes, giving options. It's all too easy, unfortunately. That is something our players can do whether they have flair and creativity or not.
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Post by ProperJob on Sept 26, 2015 16:48:54 GMT
Good post broadly agree but would add making more set pieces count in terms of delivery, too much high floaty stuff - would like to see more balls zipped in low, out first goal in outfield play for a month came from a low cross today
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 16:51:17 GMT
Rubbish.
Higgs said that losing to Sainsburys had no effect on the playing budget.
In Higgs we trust.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 16:52:39 GMT
Good post broadly agree but would add making more set pieces count in terms of delivery, too much high floaty stuff - would like to see more balls zipped in low, out first goal in outfield play for a month came from a low cross today The long high ball won us the penalty at Plymouth last week to gain a point.
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Post by Centenary Gas on Sept 26, 2015 16:55:58 GMT
Rubbish. Higgs said that losing to Sainsburys had no effect on the playing budget. In Higgs we trust. Maybe ill thought when DC said the opposite in the BEP the same week, whoops. Technically he was right, the budget was kept the same. But everyone knew it would of been increased considerably had we won. But then NH also said we are in no different a financial state than we have always been, just like other clubs. Mugging everyone off by covering over the fact we are several million worse off than previous years, and just because others spend recklessly doesn't mean we should.
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Post by Russgas on Sept 26, 2015 17:02:40 GMT
The game is about fine margins atm. Last week we could have won it with ellis late header,today Easter hits the post at 1-1,if that goes in its a different game. Pompey are a good side but apart from a lot of possession they never really created a lot of chances. The team we got atm is not strong enough to mount a promotion challenge but i think we are easily mid table and that is about what most of us expected really before the season started.
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Post by peterpirate on Sept 26, 2015 17:21:53 GMT
Pompey should of been 3 up at ht what you talking about,as for Higgs well....give dc some cash to get a few players we pay £20 every game not to watch us get outplayed in league 2 it's a joke The midfield stand off there midfield too much and it invites pressure all the time they had so much time to pick a pass today,and when we do get a cross in there is hardly anyone in there to attack it We need a goal scoring midfielder and a big striker that can hold it up and good in air so the forwards have got something to run onto,it's all to predictable at the moment
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Post by nsgas on Sept 26, 2015 17:31:16 GMT
If we must expect to lose to Portsmouth because of their greater budget, why do we always lose to Accrington?
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 26, 2015 17:59:21 GMT
Gonna have to hold my hands up to ggmi on this when he said at seasons start the budget is just not enough - i now agree the reduced budget this season is strangling us and DC is operating with one hand behind his back doing the best he can - this season we have gone up one level and are expected to have some success with a similar quality side to the one that just scraped a promotion against some very poor sides last season - Very sad to take but lots of disappointing results are only to be expected - UTG
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Post by lpgas on Sept 26, 2015 18:01:56 GMT
Terry on the radio was right, Portsmouth have much better players than us. But what do people expect? Their wage budget is considerably higher than ours. Losing that court case mean't DC had very little flexibility with the budget. Second half, only our loan goalkeeper and winger on a three month contract were new signings, apart from that it was our Conference team. Before the start of the season, people said they would be happy with a top half finish pushing for the playoffs. Well that's exactly what we are heading for. We aren't going to get promoted every year. Our home record maybe bad, but it's been far from easy. Apart from Accrington (which is hardly Newport this year), Oxford (robbed), Northampton and Portsmouth (probably going to win the league) is a hard start. Reverse our home and away fixtures/results and people would probably feel it's a decent start. As far as the current squad is concerned, I have confidence in DC. He had the same exact problem last year, when people were writing off the same players. I do wish the midfield would improve their forward movement. Movement causes defenders problems, when someone has the ball approaching the final third, we need players to be bombing past them opening their defense and forcing mistakes, giving options. It's all too easy, unfortunately. That is something our players can do whether they have flair and creativity or not. Think you will find Accrington are about 5th or so?
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Post by lpgas on Sept 26, 2015 18:04:02 GMT
We should be doing better, and the way we started the second half proves that we can do better, the second half team is the one we should start with
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Post by markczgas on Sept 26, 2015 18:07:27 GMT
The game is about fine margins atm. Last week we could have won it with ellis late header,today Easter hits the post at 1-1,if that goes in its a different game. Pompey are a good side but apart from a lot of possession they never really created a lot of chances. The team we got atm is not strong enough to mount a promotion challenge but i think we are easily mid table and that is about what most of us expected really before the season started. agree with a lot of this. fine margins agreed . However, Pompey did create 6 good chances and scored 2 - deserved winners !
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Post by markczgas on Sept 26, 2015 18:10:58 GMT
It is interesting that we have lost to 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 8th in the table so far and drawn with 4th. Wins have been against teams in bottom half. We look like we'll be mid table .
If Higgs is serious that DC can still sign players ( although don't believe him). We need a target man and PROPER wide midfielders on both flanks - you can't convert full backs ( in most cases) and expect them to play like wingers. If Brown and Leadbetter are played as full backs and wide players brought in I'd even say we could challenge top 7 but it is with Rovers always IF when it comes to signing players.
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Post by nsgas on Sept 26, 2015 18:17:04 GMT
Gonna have to hold my hands up to ggmi on this when he said at seasons start the budget is just not enough - i now agree the reduced budget this season is strangling us and DC is operating with one hand behind his back doing the best he can - this season we have gone up one level and are expected to have some success with a similar quality side to the one that just scraped a promotion against some very poor sides last season - Very sad to take but lots of disappointing results are only to be expected - UTG I agree that DC does seem to be operating with a budget smaller than we've been used to, but at the same time, has he spent what he has wisely? He signed Montano, but barely ever uses him. Last season he gave Blisset and Easter contracts that meant that they were guaranteed to be here this season, knowing already that Harrison was contracted for this season as well. It was his choice to spend part of his budget on re-signing Taylor, Gosling and Lines and he wanted to bring in James Clarke. Many of these players now look like they're not quite good enough at this level but whose fault is that other than the manager's?
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Post by justin blue on Sept 26, 2015 18:17:55 GMT
Portsmouth are a well organised side with good players at this level. Rovers are well organised with one or two good players at this level. This side is capable of a top half finish a best
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 26, 2015 18:28:49 GMT
Gonna have to hold my hands up to ggmi on this when he said at seasons start the budget is just not enough - i now agree the reduced budget this season is strangling us and DC is operating with one hand behind his back doing the best he can - this season we have gone up one level and are expected to have some success with a similar quality side to the one that just scraped a promotion against some very poor sides last season - Very sad to take but lots of disappointing results are only to be expected - UTG I agree that DC does seem to be operating with a budget smaller than we've been used to, but at the same time, has he spent what he has wisely? He signed Montano, but barely ever uses him. Last season he gave Blisset and Easter contracts that meant that they were guaranteed to be here this season, knowing already that Harrison was contracted for this season as well. It was his choice to spend part of his budget on re-signing Taylor, Gosling and Lines and he wanted to bring in James Clarke. Many of these players now look like they're not quite good enough at this level but whose fault is that other than the manager's? I see where you're coming from but i think even if you have pots of cash you're always gonna make some mistakes when signing players - the problem is with a small pot (budget) your margin for error is very very small indeed - UTG
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Post by garystash on Sept 26, 2015 18:58:16 GMT
I agree with the people in this thread that say our side aren't good enough for promotion. It was clearly evident today that we need better players to be anywhere near the best teams in this league.
IMO Portsmouth totally outplayed us. Our players gave it everything for the first 10-15 mins of the second half, but could not sustain that effort and soon Portsmouth were running the show again.
What concerns me is that confidence will start to drop and we will be in a relegation dogfight soon. We need to start grinding out some results - we need to go into games with the attitude that we're NOT going to lose.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 26, 2015 19:08:38 GMT
Gonna have to hold my hands up to ggmi on this when he said at seasons start the budget is just not enough - i now agree the reduced budget this season is strangling us and DC is operating with one hand behind his back doing the best he can - this season we have gone up one level and are expected to have some success with a similar quality side to the one that just scraped a promotion against some very poor sides last season - Very sad to take but lots of disappointing results are only to be expected - UTG Thanks! Where we are now is more where I expected us to be with our budget, it's just a shame after the optimism of winning 3 games on the spin and building hopes up a bit. I think the board will secretly be happy with mid table mediocrity this season whilst things off the pitch are still being sorted. For me it is definitely a quality issue not lack of effort or desire. We have lost our 5 games against top 8 teams and our 3 wins have been against teams near the bottom. That backs up that opinion.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 26, 2015 19:11:27 GMT
The fact that Pompey could bring the likes of Roberts and Tubbs of the bench tells you how far clear of uthey are budget wise.
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Post by Centenary Gas on Sept 26, 2015 19:16:23 GMT
The fact that Pompey could bring the likes of Roberts and Tubbs of the bench tells you how far clear of uthey are budget wise. I could accept that if we were being run efficiently at break even, as we should be. Unfortunately, due to the club being run far from optimally, and in some cases literally ****ing money down the drain, the interest payments alone mean that we will still lose a large sum this season. Good job we can flog our only asset to cover it though, eh?
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