|
|
Post by althepirate on Jan 15, 2016 21:51:23 GMT
TBH I was hoping for a bit of praise for Nick. When we went down to the Conference some said it was all his fault, now we could get back to back promotions he doesn't get any praise, that's crazy and unfair. I personally think its our managers who should take the blame and the praise, taking into account the board appoint them, but how difficult is it to appoint a football manager, just ask Man U. Dinsdale constantly criticising the board for their decision making is quite laughable when I remember he would have sacked DC last season. Do those like him realise how difficult it is to run a business let alone a football club? I say the board bashers cant have it both ways, if they think the board are to blame for relegation, then they should be praised in their efforts to gain promotion. OK sorry mate, I fully apologise, I honestly thought it was another thread to have a go at Higgs again. I fully agree with the rest of your post. Thanks that's cool, no probs  |
|
|
|
Post by dinsdale on Jan 15, 2016 22:23:06 GMT
Lol and so it begins, it might have taken the op longer than expected though... TBH I was hoping for a bit of praise for Nick. When we went down to the Conference some said it was all his fault, now we could get back to back promotions he doesn't get any praise, that's crazy and unfair. I personally think its our managers who should take the blame and the praise, taking into account the board appoint them, but how difficult is it to appoint a football manager, just ask Man U. Dinsdale constantly criticising the board for their decision making is quite laughable when I remember he would have sacked DC last season. Do those like him realise how difficult it is to run a business let alone a football club? I say the board bashers cant have it both ways, if they think the board are to blame for relegation, then they should be praised in their efforts to gain promotion. You are right with 8 games to go in league 2 i would not have replaced Ward with DC and i felt at the time there were better options to take us forward following relegation and a terrible pre seaso. Hindsight hey, funny but i don't remember you expressing an opinion at the time. Anyway i wasn't having a dig at Higgs i was simply sayinf he disn't pay for Gaffney we did. I'm not fan of the board but im a big fan of DC. I hope the board prove me wrong too. |
|
|
|
Post by althepirate on Jan 15, 2016 22:54:07 GMT
Dinsdale....If you quote hindsight for your misjudgements you should also afford it to Nick IMO. Incidentally I expressed that I thought Ward was awful at the end, but that this may have been due to personal reasons. When you were criticising DC I was praising him. I started an appreciation thread for DC because I thought he had the necessary hunger for the job, something which John Ward had lost. You come across as a board bashing and previously manager bashing poster, however you did admit you were wrong about DC, which I applaud you for. At the moment I am loving it, the signing of Gaffney could be one of the final pieces in the jigsaw, we have a hard working, motivated and incredibly balanced squad, lets all get behind everyone at the club for the efforts everyone has put in. When you say we paid for Gaffney then you could just as well work it backwards and say we are getting the crowds because of the players and DC and we got DC as manager because the board appointed him, so why not give them some praise for that?
|
|
|
|
Post by oldtoteender on Jan 15, 2016 23:03:01 GMT
Well i have no love for our board present or past, after all this year is only the 30th anniversary of us leaving Eastville and i will never forget how they tried to silence us by shutting down the forum. UTG !!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by dinsdale on Jan 16, 2016 7:12:23 GMT
Dinsdale....If you quote hindsight for your misjudgements you should also afford it to Nick IMO. Incidentally I expressed that I thought Ward was awful at the end, but that this may have been due to personal reasons. When you were criticising DC I was praising him. I started an appreciation thread for DC because I thought he had the necessary hunger for the job, something which John Ward had lost. You come across as a board bashing and previously manager bashing poster, however you did admit you were wrong about DC, which I applaud you for. At the moment I am loving it, the signing of Gaffney could be one of the final pieces in the jigsaw, we have a hard working, motivated and incredibly balanced squad, lets all get behind everyone at the club for the efforts everyone has put in. When you say we paid for Gaffney then you could just as well work it backwards and say we are getting the crowds because of the players and DC and we got DC as manager because the board appointed him, so why not give them some praise for that? Higgs did well not to panic over DC and that worked out well for us. As for manager bashing have we had a good manager inbetween Hollway and DC ? |
|
yattongas
Proper Gas
Posts: 13,928 
Member is Online
|
Post by yattongas on Jan 16, 2016 7:54:40 GMT
Higgs made the fateful mistake of building our hopes up only for us to have them cruelly shattered.
The pics of a sparkly new stadium dangled in front of us and fail to deliver was hard to take.
If he'd never of done that he'd probably be seen more favourably .
Pantsdown meanwhile was also given a fair amount of flack for the Ashton Vale fiasco but he managed to buy his way back into favour by polishing the turd that is Ashton gate ( only after saying it was a stadium that would never be fit for purpose and they'd never be able to fully move forward whilst restricted to it and where it was sited)
He could buy his way out of trouble with his tax dodged billions .
|
|
|
|
Post by newmarketgas on Jan 16, 2016 8:35:48 GMT
I havent put my own figures on here i quoted those given by the club. The 50k comment was not relevant to anything i was saying and i misread it and thought it was a watertake so made a throw away sarky comment. Im off out for the evening thats all. You guys are becomming the new Ggmi of the forum. That's nice for you. Have fun being abusive to people. That's what P's me off, when someone starts to look a bit silly, it's the old " Iam off out for the night" only to keep coming back and posting. I find this attitude far worse than having a good old ding dong and get things sorted. It seems some prefer to sneak around and wait for a chance to back stab, man up and debate like a man, not a little girl. |
|
|
|
Post by oldgas on Jan 16, 2016 8:36:05 GMT
This is really like comparing chalk with cheese. There is no comparison between the wealth of the 2 chairmen. Saint Sir Steve bought the AV site and had the money to build the new stadium. When the protest group got their Village Green status awarded we saw the true colours of the red inbreds as they started their threats and intimidation. SSS was able to fund all the appeals from his own pocket, through the Bristol Sport umbrella I suppose, without recourse to Wonga loans. He even had BCC colluding with him, trying to illegally designate half the site as a village green so he could build his stadium, then wasting our Council Tax defending their rubbishy decisions in court. When it all went against him, SSS just put his hand in his pocket and forked out 40 odd million to revamp AG.
Nick Higgs is doing his best, I've no doubt about that. He's a wealty individual, but not in a football sense. He tried to develop the Mem, but got fatally delayed by Rose. Because of that delay the development fell foul of the recession. Not Higgs fault. There were no threats or repercussions from fans against the protesters either. Her then came up with the UWE scheme. We all know what happened there. A combination of NIMBYs and political interference for ideological reasons put the brakes on that, and gave Shitsburys the opportunity to pull the plug when they realised hey wouldn't make quite as much profit as they originally thought, the greedy bastards.
We're now waiting on the appeal, and the consortium saving the day, if they exist. Finally there's the 2 managers, although Clitterill just been given the bullet. There's no comparison between them either, really. DC has had to shop very carefully, and is steadily building a brilliant squad without spending a fortune on players or wages. Clitts got them out of league 1 by hoovering up all the best talent . SSS just put his hand in his pocket and shelled out what was needed. In the Championship they've found it s a different story. It seems no one wants to sign for them; is that because Clitts is known to be a bit of a C--t in the world of football? I think it's telling the only people he's managed to sign were 2 Frenchmen.
Finally, the difference between the 2 chairmen can be seen in the potential signings this season. SSS has been prepared to cough up 9 Million for a player, that's more than we've spent on players in our entire existence! We've probably paid a small fee for Gaffers. If we get anyone else in the window they will no doubt be free's as well.
Like I say, chalk and cheese, but I know who I'd rather support!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 9:14:28 GMT
How much does it cost to employ one player on £50k per year ? 50k £57k |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 9:17:14 GMT
It wasn't about being anti Higgs its just about facts. Higgs is a hell of a lot better then the rest of the board F**k me, that doesn't say a lot for the others. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 9:22:19 GMT
Dinsdale....If you quote hindsight for your misjudgements you should also afford it to Nick IMO. Incidentally I expressed that I thought Ward was awful at the end, but that this may have been due to personal reasons. When you were criticising DC I was praising him. I started an appreciation thread for DC because I thought he had the necessary hunger for the job, something which John Ward had lost. You come across as a board bashing and previously manager bashing poster, however you did admit you were wrong about DC, which I applaud you for. At the moment I am loving it, the signing of Gaffney could be one of the final pieces in the jigsaw, we have a hard working, motivated and incredibly balanced squad, lets all get behind everyone at the club for the efforts everyone has put in. When you say we paid for Gaffney then you could just as well work it backwards and say we are getting the crowds because of the players and DC and we got DC as manager because the board appointed him, so why not give them some praise for that? Higgs did well not to panic over DC and that worked out well for us. As for manager bashing have we had a good manager inbetween Hollway and DC ? Paul Trollope wasn't too shabby along with Lennie. |
|
|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 16, 2016 9:28:12 GMT
Since our drop into the National league Nick Higgs has been a very good chairman football wise and will get even better when he has the UWE Built soon  |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 9:55:11 GMT
Since our drop into the National league Nick Higgs has been a very good chairman football wise and will get even better when he has the UWE Built soon Yep, he found his level in non league. |
|
|
|
Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 16, 2016 9:59:48 GMT
Tale of the tape!
Wealth
Higgs 5
He is doing alright for himself.
Lansdown 10
Tax dodging Duke is minted.
Dealing with Protesters.
Higgs. 10
He has seen off Rose and TRASH, the Green party and that f**k Jamie Stair-carpet.
Lansdown. 1
Got turned over by a little old lady walking her jack russell.
Popularity with the fans.
Higgs 5
As many love him as hate him it seems.
Lansdown 9
Cupboard love from the inbreds. Without his money they would have spat on him by now.
Accessibility
Higgs 10
Say what you like he is accessible. I've seen him match days both home and away talking to fans.
Lansdown 1
Sends a cheap imitation in his place.
Decision making
Higgs 5
Made some mistakes but stuck by DC
Lansdown 3
Some odd timing for this sacking. Has a relegation and massive financial loss to his name too.
Backing his man
Higgs 10
Has always backed his manager. Sometimes to his own detriment!
Lansdown 5
A man of his means should have splashed out in the summer.
Stadium
Higgs 3
Score subject to review.....
Lansdown 10
Hats off. He's has transformed a sh** hole into a more expensive sh** hole.
Honesty with the fans
Higgs 3
Hasn't always been straight us and has been caught out a couple of times
Lansdown 7
Seems a fairly straightforward guy
So there you have it. The score on the doors are as follows:
Higgs 51. Lansdown 46.
Nick just shades it. Took a hammering on wealth and the stadium fiasco but still just about edges it.
|
|
yattongas
Proper Gas
Posts: 13,928
Member is Online
|
Post by yattongas on Jan 16, 2016 10:03:52 GMT
Tale of the tape! Wealth Higgs 5 He is doing alright for himself. Lansdown 10 Tax dodging Duke is minted. Dealing with Protesters. Higgs. 10 He has seen off Rose and TRASH, the Green party and that f**k Jamie Stair-carpet. Lansdown. 1 Got turned over by a little old lady walking her jack russell. Popularity with the fans. Higgs 5 As many love him as hate him it seems. Lansdown 9 Cupboard love from the inbreds. Without his money they would have spat on him by now. Accessibility Higgs 10 Say what you like he is accessible. I've seen him match days both home and away talking to fans. Lansdown 1 Sends a cheap imitation in his place. Decision making Higgs 5 Made some mistakes but stuck by DC Lansdown 3 Some odd timing for this sacking. Has a relegation and massive financial loss to his name too. Backing his man Higgs 10 Has always backed his manager. Sometimes to his own detriment! Lansdown 5 A man of his means should have splashed out in the summer. Stadium Higgs 3 Score subject to review..... Lansdown 10 Hats off. He's has transformed a sh** hole into a more expensive sh** hole. Honesty with the fans Higgs 3 Hasn't always been straight us and has been caught out a couple of times Lansdown 7 Seems a fairly straightforward guy So there you have it. The score on the doors are as follows: Higgs 51. Lansdown 46. Nick just shades it. Took a hammering on wealth and the stadium fiasco but still just about edges it. You forgot Higgs is Gas 10 points , Landsdown is a poo head minus 46 points. Higgs 61. Landsdown 0 |
|
|
|
Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 16, 2016 10:16:05 GMT
man up and debate like a man, not a little girl. To be fair, as it's on-line. We're all doing it like little girls*. *No offence intended to actual little girls. |
|
|
|
Post by althepirate on Jan 16, 2016 11:06:46 GMT
This is really like comparing chalk with cheese. There is no comparison between the wealth of the 2 chairmen. Saint Sir Steve bought the AV site and had the money to build the new stadium. When the protest group got their Village Green status awarded we saw the true colours of the red inbreds as they started their threats and intimidation. SSS was able to fund all the appeals from his own pocket, through the Bristol Sport umbrella I suppose, without recourse to Wonga loans. He even had BCC colluding with him, trying to illegally designate half the site as a village green so he could build his stadium, then wasting our Council Tax defending their rubbishy decisions in court. When it all went against him, SSS just put his hand in his pocket and forked out 40 odd million to revamp AG. Nick Higgs is doing his best, I've no doubt about that. He's a wealty individual, but not in a football sense. He tried to develop the Mem, but got fatally delayed by Rose. Because of that delay the development fell foul of the recession. Not Higgs fault. There were no threats or repercussions from fans against the protesters either. Her then came up with the UWE scheme. We all know what happened there. A combination of NIMBYs and political interference for ideological reasons put the brakes on that, and gave Shitsburys the opportunity to pull the plug when they realised hey wouldn't make quite as much profit as they originally thought, the greedy bastards. We're now waiting on the appeal, and the consortium saving the day, if they exist. Finally there's the 2 managers, although Clitterill just been given the bullet. There's no comparison between them either, really. DC has had to shop very carefully, and is steadily building a brilliant squad without spending a fortune on players or wages. Clitts got them out of league 1 by hoovering up all the best talent . SSS just put his hand in his pocket and shelled out what was needed. In the Championship they've found it s a different story. It seems no one wants to sign for them; is that because Clitts is known to be a bit of a C--t in the world of football? I think it's telling the only people he's managed to sign were 2 Frenchmen. Finally, the difference between the 2 chairmen can be seen in the potential signings this season. SSS has been prepared to cough up 9 Million for a player, that's more than we've spent on players in our entire existence! We've probably paid a small fee for Gaffers. If we get anyone else in the window they will no doubt be free's as well. Like I say, chalk and cheese, but I know who I'd rather support! Oldgas I think you have summed up perfectly the difference between the two clubs and it has always been like this. This is why I am RTID and Proud to be a Gashead. |
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Jan 16, 2016 11:18:41 GMT
This is really like comparing chalk with cheese. There is no comparison between the wealth of the 2 chairmen. Saint Sir Steve bought the AV site and had the money to build the new stadium. When the protest group got their Village Green status awarded we saw the true colours of the red inbreds as they started their threats and intimidation. SSS was able to fund all the appeals from his own pocket, through the Bristol Sport umbrella I suppose, without recourse to Wonga loans. He even had BCC colluding with him, trying to illegally designate half the site as a village green so he could build his stadium, then wasting our Council Tax defending their rubbishy decisions in court. When it all went against him, SSS just put his hand in his pocket and forked out 40 odd million to revamp AG. Nick Higgs is doing his best, I've no doubt about that. He's a wealty individual, but not in a football sense. He tried to develop the Mem, but got fatally delayed by Rose. Because of that delay the development fell foul of the recession. Not Higgs fault. There were no threats or repercussions from fans against the protesters either. Her then came up with the UWE scheme. We all know what happened there. A combination of NIMBYs and political interference for ideological reasons put the brakes on that, and gave Shitsburys the opportunity to pull the plug when they realised hey wouldn't make quite as much profit as they originally thought, the greedy bastards. We're now waiting on the appeal, and the consortium saving the day, if they exist. Finally there's the 2 managers, although Clitterill just been given the bullet. There's no comparison between them either, really. DC has had to shop very carefully, and is steadily building a brilliant squad without spending a fortune on players or wages. Clitts got them out of league 1 by hoovering up all the best talent . SSS just put his hand in his pocket and shelled out what was needed. In the Championship they've found it s a different story. It seems no one wants to sign for them; is that because Clitts is known to be a bit of a C--t in the world of football? I think it's telling the only people he's managed to sign were 2 Frenchmen. Finally, the difference between the 2 chairmen can be seen in the potential signings this season. SSS has been prepared to cough up 9 Million for a player, that's more than we've spent on players in our entire existence! We've probably paid a small fee for Gaffers. If we get anyone else in the window they will no doubt be free's as well. Like I say, chalk and cheese, but I know who I'd rather support! Isn't there a common theme with all our developments falling by the wayside, fell out with Rose, fell out with Opal, fell out with Trash, fell out with Sainsbury's, ignored the rumoured consortium. Has NH just been unlucky or perhaps the "my way or the highway" approach just doesn't work when it comes to running a football club? We're just under a week away from seeing if NH approach with Sainsbury's has worked, or whether he's virtually driven the club to the wall. Perhaps DC having the b@lls to stand up NH is the best thing, playing wise, that's happened to the club for decades. Let's just hope in don't lose him anytime soon. |
|
|
|
Post by yategas78 on Jan 16, 2016 11:30:55 GMT
I grew up in South Bristol but thankfully the first game I went to was The Gas v Aston Villa Must have been 1973/4 I only went because me and my mate a City Fan were at a loose end and wanted something to do! To think if it had been a week earlier or the one after I might have gone to see the other lot and ended up a POO HEAD like the rest of them--------- It proves There is a God and he wears the quarters!!
|
|
|
|
Post by dinsdale on Jan 16, 2016 12:09:28 GMT
I havent put my own figures on here i quoted those given by the club. The 50k comment was not relevant to anything i was saying and i misread it and thought it was a watertake so made a throw away sarky comment. Im off out for the evening thats all. You guys are becomming the new Ggmi of the forum. That's nice for you. Have fun being abusive to people. That's what P's me off, when someone starts to look a bit silly, it's the old " Iam off out for the night" only to keep coming back and posting. I find this attitude far worse than having a good old ding dong and get things sorted. It seems some prefer to sneak around and wait for a chance to back stab, man up and debate like a man, not a little girl. Sorry i was going out, you will note i didn't post for two hours due to going out !!! i couldn't be bothered with it because you were not debating or being reasonable and all you do is be obnoxious and try and get a bite and well done you are very good at it. As for me looking stupid for misreading your post which was completely off point And nothing to do with what i was saying i thats what you think fair enough. You were the reason i left the forum for a year and its not because i do not want to debate its because of you Making my blood boil. Once something as insignificant as this forum makes you feel like that there is no point posting. Its good to have people with different views on a forum board basher or not. Maybe lets just ignore each other from now on for the sake of other users. Mods where is the ignore button ? Cant find it on my mobile? |
|
