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Post by garystash on Mar 4, 2016 7:04:26 GMT
Whilst all the talk of population does suggest we can emulate the crowds of some of these places, it isn't the whole picture.
Bristol is a great place to live because there is lots to do in and around the city. The football teams have competition for peoples' time and money that some of these other footballing places perhaps don't.
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Post by mumbles on Mar 4, 2016 7:18:26 GMT
Whilst all the talk of population does suggest we can emulate the crowds of some of these places, it isn't the whole picture. Bristol is a great place to live because there is lots to do in and around the city. The football teams have competition for peolples' time and money that some of these other footballing places perhaps don't. Really? Please elaborate, what is there to do in Bristol that there isn't in any other city?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 7:24:57 GMT
Whilst all the talk of population does suggest we can emulate the crowds of some of these places, it isn't the whole picture. Bristol is a great place to live because there is lots to do in and around the city. The football teams have competition for peolples' time and money that some of these other footballing places perhaps don't. Really? Please elaborate, what is there to do in Bristol that there isn't in any other city? Walk across Brunels suspension bridge. Finger blast a bird up Chasers..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 7:28:36 GMT
Really? Please elaborate, what is there to do in Bristol that there isn't in any other city? Walk across Brunels suspension bridge. Finger blast a bird up Chasers.. But you can finger blast a bloke in a nightclub called 'Chase Me' in Brighton !
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 4, 2016 7:51:42 GMT
Whilst all the talk of population does suggest we can emulate the crowds of some of these places, it isn't the whole picture. Bristol is a great place to live because there is lots to do in and around the city. The football teams have competition for peolples' time and money that some of these other footballing places perhaps don't. Really? Please elaborate, what is there to do in Bristol that there isn't in any other city? if you live south of the River, lots of home entertainment with your mother/sister/donkey
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Post by Gastafari on Mar 4, 2016 7:55:29 GMT
People seem to forget that Bristol also has the largest Saturday Amateur and Semi professional football League outside of London.
Most other amateur leagues up and down the country are played on Sunday's.
So the people who could be watching Rovers or City are actually playing Football themselves on a Saturday afternoon.
That affects our attendances too.
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Post by garystash on Mar 4, 2016 9:01:07 GMT
Whilst all the talk of population does suggest we can emulate the crowds of some of these places, it isn't the whole picture. Bristol is a great place to live because there is lots to do in and around the city. The football teams have competition for peolples' time and money that some of these other footballing places perhaps don't. Really? Please elaborate, what is there to do in Bristol that there isn't in any other city? Firstly, I'm not saying Bristol is full of unique things to do, but there is a good range of things for all. I myself hardly watched rovers for 20 years up until the conference year because I played football. It was often said when I played (although I have no proof how true this is) that Bristol has more people partaking in amateur football than anywhere in the UK. Many other amateur sports take place too - where I live, rugby and cricket are far more popular than football, there is a Netball team too. Outside of sport there's the science museum, m-shed and Bristol museum. You can go to the Zoo, visit the SS Great Britain or take a discovery walk around the harbourside. If you're into art there's Spike Island, Arnolfini or take in a Banksy tour. You can see a show at the Hippodrome, the tobacco factory or Old Vic. If you want to be more active there are cycle paths, Ashton court and Leigh Woods. We're also not far from countryside and seaside. So in my opinion, for people that are not currently hooked on watching football, there is an abundance of things to get out and do.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 4, 2016 9:07:50 GMT
Really? Please elaborate, what is there to do in Bristol that there isn't in any other city? Firstly, I'm not saying Bristol is full of unique things to do, but there is a good range of things for all. I myself hardly watched rovers for 20 years up until the conference year because I played football. It was often said when I played (although I have no proof how true this is) that Bristol has more people partaking in amateur football than anywhere in the UK. Many other amateur sports take place too - where I live, rugby and cricket are far more popular than football, there is a Netball team too. Outside of sport there's the science museum, m-shed and Bristol museum. You can go to the Zoo, visit the SS Great Britain or take a discovery walk around the harbourside. If you're into art there's Spike Island, Arnolfini or take in a Banksy tour. You can see a show at the Hippodrome, the tobacco factory or Old Vic. If you want to be more active there are cycle paths, Ashton court and Leigh Woods. We're also not far from countryside and seaside. So in my opinion, for people that are not currently hooked on watching football, there is an abundance of things to get out and do. My personal favourite local pastime for a Saturday afternoon is drinking 4 litres of cider and lying down in Stokes Croft. Yeah, the 'we play more football in Bristol on a Saturday' thing, might be a myth, but I've heard it from loads of sources, including lots of 'outsiders' who play football locally. I think there must be something to it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 9:15:27 GMT
I personally, don't think there is any truth in the 'we play more football in Bristol' myth. I haven't looked, but if it's true, then attendances at midweek games, or even Friday night games, should be well above the 'normal' ?
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Post by Staffordshire Gas on Mar 4, 2016 9:27:39 GMT
Population of Stoke-on-Trent 220,000. Isn't stoke-on-trent a collection of five towns ?...Burslem (where vale are based) being one of them ? A bit like midsomer Norton /paulton/radstock for example Yep.Stoke,Hanley,Fenton,Burslem,Tunstall,Fenton all form Stoke on Trent.
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Post by garystash on Mar 4, 2016 9:31:11 GMT
I personally, don't think there is any truth in the 'we play more football in Bristol' myth. I haven't looked, but if it's true, then attendances at midweek games, or even Friday night games, should be well above the 'normal' ? I think though, if you're not in the habit of going, you don't feel the need to go when you can. I was Rovers mad as a child, yet when I played on a Saturday afternoon as an adult, I never felt the need to go when I could. Since I've finished playing I'm truly bitten by the bug again and never want to miss a game.
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Post by oddsongas on Mar 4, 2016 9:41:14 GMT
I play football every Saturday, but as soon as there's no game I watch them. So every Tuesday or Friday home game I'm there. It's frustrating I miss so many games, and I can imagine others feel the same.
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Post by Gastafari on Mar 4, 2016 9:55:26 GMT
I personally, don't think there is any truth in the 'we play more football in Bristol' myth. I haven't looked, but if it's true, then attendances at midweek games, or even Friday night games, should be well above the 'normal' ? Midweek games are usually on a Tuesday, which are training days for a lot of amateur clubs. Games on a Friday night have always pulled in bigger crowds, I remember a game against Barnet a couple of years ago pulled in a crowd of nearly 10k if I'm not mistaken? They have always certainly been above our "norm" or average.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Mar 4, 2016 9:56:34 GMT
I got sent off in the first 5 minutes of a downs game once, instead of staying and supporting the team I was playing my first game for I f*cked off and went to the mem to watch Rovers!
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Post by lpgas on Mar 4, 2016 9:58:03 GMT
When I started watching Rovers in 68 Rovers would pull around 16 thousand on a Saturday and 13k on a Tuesday night. Admittedly there were not the opportunities to do much else then, except cinema or playing footy, or shopping!! However come FA Cup day we would pull 26,000 or 30,000 depending who it was. I am not saying that we would get those gates again, but why not? As long as on the playing field we were reasonably successful. People will go and watch a winning team. Plus, concerts, there is a big difference in who you can get to perform with a 15000 capacity and a 25,000 capacity. Personally I would build in the 26,000 from the off and I would say that in the first season we will fill it most matches, and with a little bit of success they will keep coming back.
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Post by Congas on Mar 4, 2016 10:30:10 GMT
26,000 can be done without any major structural alterations, as everything is designed to carry the extra loads. It might still need planning permission though. 35,000 definitely would as it would involve significant changes. The issue with the increase to 35,000 is the impact it would have on sightlines of residents further down the hill. As it is planned it sits in a natural bowl and does not have much impact looking towards the university. The whole roof would have to be taken off, a third tier build and the higher roof replaced, but as I understand it the design allows for this without altering the foundations. The planning permission and of course the cost would be the obstacles. We'd only need 27,500 to top the other lot for the first time in the history of the clubs. Their capacity was once just over the 40,000 mark while Eastville boasted something like 36-38K. I only ever saw it full up once though, FA Cup against Arsenal when people were sat on the floodlight pylons at the Muller Rd end. 30,000 would feel great.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 11:02:32 GMT
I personally, don't think there is any truth in the 'we play more football in Bristol' myth. I haven't looked, but if it's true, then attendances at midweek games, or even Friday night games, should be well above the 'normal' ? Midweek games are usually on a Tuesday, which are training days for a lot of amateur clubs. Games on a Friday night have always pulled in bigger crowds, I remember a game against Barnet a couple of years ago pulled in a crowd of nearly 10k if I'm not mistaken? They have always certainly been above our "norm" or average. This is exactly my situation. Play on a Saturday and train on a Tuesday... So Fridays are pretty much the only game I can get to and I know the same is applicable for a lot of my friends.
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Post by syg on Mar 4, 2016 11:11:09 GMT
The amateur league played on sat and sun is interesting. How many people play on a saturday who would like to go to a match?
Maybe our leader and lansdowne should get there heads together and try to get it changed to a sunday? This is several 1000 people playing on a saturday with a football interest
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Post by countygroundhotel on Mar 4, 2016 11:28:16 GMT
The amateur league played on sat and sun is interesting. How many people play on a saturday who would like to go to a match? Maybe our leader and lansdowne should get there heads together and try to get it changed to a sunday? This is several 1000 people playing on a saturday with a football interest Isn't Sunday football dying on it's arse? I looked at the local leagues in the BEP yesterday and counted 6 divisions between the Regional & Sunday leagues, back when I was playing you had more than that in each league on it's own.
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Post by oldtoteender on Mar 4, 2016 11:57:08 GMT
I think regarding the Build if it was intended to be able to raise capacity to 35000 (Needed for our Champions league games v Barca Real Madrid etc) would it be possible to build the Stadium deeper down in the ground, The Nou camp is like this the pitch is well below ground level.
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