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Post by chippenhamgas on Mar 15, 2016 20:38:50 GMT
anyone there, anything to report?
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Post by lympstonegas on Mar 15, 2016 21:03:24 GMT
People on independent forum say they're going so probably all outcomes will be posted on there soon
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Post by banjoflyer on Mar 15, 2016 22:38:05 GMT
Am I missing something? No postings at all on the AGM on this or IF, just John Kayes saying how good the newpeople come across. So nothing of note happened - strange........
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Post by gasincider on Mar 15, 2016 22:55:10 GMT
Nothing really contentious. Steve Hamer reiterated that DC will get whatever he requires to make a good go at automatic promotion. DC played it cool saying he was happy with his squad.
Gaffney available hopefully for Easter games. Sinclair still 2 or 3 weeks. Same for LL. Vote of thanks to DC for what he has achieved. He said if we do go up he will offer similar deals to the squad as last year. Not sure that I liked that but ...............
Every bit of the UWE deal is being re scrutinised, but they are hopeful of starting it 'later this year'. Presumably meaning two more years at Mem.
Two options re UWE. 125 year lease and agreement about income streams, or buy out the freehold which would be more expensive but on balance may well be the way forward.
Sure a better summation will be forthcoming.
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Post by xplosivgas on Mar 15, 2016 23:23:28 GMT
Nothing really contentious. Steve Hamer reiterated that DC will get whatever he requires to make a good go at automatic promotion. DC played it cool saying he was happy with his squad. Gaffney available hopefully for Easter games. Sinclair still 2 or 3 weeks. Same for LL. Vote of thanks to DC for what he has achieved. He said if we do go up he will offer similar deals to the squad as last year. Not sure that I liked that but ............... Every bit of the UWE deal is being re scrutinised, but they are hopeful of starting it 'later this year'. Presumably meaning two more years at Mem. Two options re UWE. 125 year lease and agreement about income streams, or buy out the freehold which would be more expensive but on balance may well be the way forward. Sure a better summation will be forthcoming. So DC indicated if we get promoted the players won't get improved contracts? Not exactly a good motivational tactic- even if it's true don't go announcing it at an AGM! Better to say nowt!
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Post by daniel300380 on Mar 15, 2016 23:27:53 GMT
Nothing really contentious. Steve Hamer reiterated that DC will get whatever he requires to make a good go at automatic promotion. DC played it cool saying he was happy with his squad. Gaffney available hopefully for Easter games. Sinclair still 2 or 3 weeks. Same for LL. Vote of thanks to DC for what he has achieved. He said if we do go up he will offer similar deals to the squad as last year. Not sure that I liked that but ............... Every bit of the UWE deal is being re scrutinised, but they are hopeful of starting it 'later this year'. Presumably meaning two more years at Mem. Two options re UWE. 125 year lease and agreement about income streams, or buy out the freehold which would be more expensive but on balance may well be the way forward. Sure a better summation will be forthcoming. So DC indicated if we get promoted the players won't get improved contracts? Not exactly a good motivational tactic- even if it's true don't go announcing it at an AGM! Better to say nowt! Probably means 1 year deals to prove themselves at that level, not the amount of pay.
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Post by Dr Gas on Mar 15, 2016 23:30:16 GMT
Nothing really contentious. Steve Hamer reiterated that DC will get whatever he requires to make a good go at automatic promotion. DC played it cool saying he was happy with his squad. Gaffney available hopefully for Easter games. Sinclair still 2 or 3 weeks. Same for LL. Vote of thanks to DC for what he has achieved. He said if we do go up he will offer similar deals to the squad as last year. Not sure that I liked that but ............... Every bit of the UWE deal is being re scrutinised, but they are hopeful of starting it 'later this year'. Presumably meaning two more years at Mem. Two options re UWE. 125 year lease and agreement about income streams, or buy out the freehold which would be more expensive but on balance may well be the way forward. Sure a better summation will be forthcoming. So DC indicated if we get promoted the players won't get improved contracts? Not exactly a good motivational tactic- even if it's true don't go announcing it at an AGM! Better to say nowt! Saying they will be offered similar deals is not necessarily the same as saying their contracts will not be improved: Maybe they got, say, a 25% increase after promotion? So, if they are offered the same/similar again, then they will indeed get improved deals.
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Post by gasincider on Mar 15, 2016 23:35:28 GMT
Indeed that is what I assumed. They will obviously get monetary improvements, it's the length of the deal that I assumed he meant. Namely more one year deals.
Thinking back on the meeting, the strange part was that in the space of a few sentences we were told that the whole UWE deal would last about 28 months and then that they hoped to start later in the year.
I assume the 28 month bit entailed pre contract finalisation, the build and the adjustment of various internal structures within the ground. Certain issues were raised I.e. Accoustics etc, and they were taking advice from sources close to other new stadia developments to learn from them as to possible pitfalls, and fundamental errors in design.
Unless someone pre empts me, I will try to pass on info as I remember it.
BSS and KEN Both gave a brief synopsis as to how they see their roles developing in the light on new ownership, and DC asked for a pay rise ( jokingly I hasten to add) DC also had a couple of winners at Cheltenham, so obviously doesn't need a pay rise now.
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Post by johnanagram on Mar 15, 2016 23:41:37 GMT
Nothing really contentious. Steve Hamer reiterated that DC will get whatever he requires to make a good go at automatic promotion. DC played it cool saying he was happy with his squad. Gaffney available hopefully for Easter games. Sinclair still 2 or 3 weeks. Same for LL. Vote of thanks to DC for what he has achieved. He said if we do go up he will offer similar deals to the squad as last year. Not sure that I liked that but ............... Every bit of the UWE deal is being re scrutinised, but they are hopeful of starting it 'later this year'. Presumably meaning two more years at Mem. Two options re UWE. 125 year lease and agreement about income streams, or buy out the freehold which would be more expensive but on balance may well be the way forward. Sure a better summation will be forthcoming. So DC indicated if we get promoted the players won't get improved contracts? Not exactly a good motivational tactic- even if it's true don't go announcing it at an AGM! Better to say nowt! That isn't what he said.
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Post by xplosivgas on Mar 15, 2016 23:43:47 GMT
So DC indicated if we get promoted the players won't get improved contracts? Not exactly a good motivational tactic- even if it's true don't go announcing it at an AGM! Better to say nowt! That isn't what he said. Yep, I'm glad to hear I got the wrong end of the stick.
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Post by Dr Gas on Mar 15, 2016 23:47:43 GMT
So DC indicated if we get promoted the players won't get improved contracts? Not exactly a good motivational tactic- even if it's true don't go announcing it at an AGM! Better to say nowt! That isn't what he said. Love the monicker, John I guess some things stick, huh? Oh, and welcome matey.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 16, 2016 8:38:19 GMT
So DC indicated if we get promoted the players won't get improved contracts? Not exactly a good motivational tactic- even if it's true don't go announcing it at an AGM! Better to say nowt! That isn't what he said. I guess like last season he's promised the players a new contract of some kind next season if they get us promoted, LL apparently being offered a similar deal when he signd recently. Whilst that worked this season you do wonder how Mildenhall, Mansell & Lines etc will got in Div 1 should we get there this season. Did anything more come of the EW motion re buying 31 Filton Ave? It seems from what Gasincider posted the Al-Q's are prepared to make a massive investment in the UWE if they are now considering buying the land.
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Post by newmarketgas on Mar 16, 2016 8:48:53 GMT
What was the answer to this house purchase, I am pretty sure someone on here was making it a priority to get answers ?
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 16, 2016 9:43:50 GMT
I understand the worry about players being up to the level above, but don't underestimate the power of the collective. When we got promoted in '89/'90, basically the same team with a couple of additions got us to mid-table in what is now the Championship. It was only when Gerry left, took Ollie with him and then a few of the other core players went, that things started to go downhill a bit. Who's to say that our squad, with a few quality additions, couldn't do well in league 1? Let's keep our feet on the ground for now, though. Remember that on probability and the bookmakers' odds, we are more likely to not go up than go up this season.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 16, 2016 9:53:10 GMT
I understand the worry about players being up to the level above, but don't underestimate the power of the collective. When we got promoted in '89/'90, basically the same team with a couple of additions got us to mid-table in what is now the Championship. It was only when Gerry left, took Ollie with him and then a few of the other core players went, that things started to go downhill a bit. Who's to say that our squad, with a few quality additions, couldn't do well in league 1? Let's keep our feet on the ground for now, though. Remember that on probability and the bookmakers' odds, we are more likely to not go up than go up this season. Burton's success confirms that view, but you just wonder whether Div 1 might be a step too far for some players. Although some, honest, players may appreciate that anyway and move on.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 16, 2016 9:59:49 GMT
I understand the worry about players being up to the level above, but don't underestimate the power of the collective. When we got promoted in '89/'90, basically the same team with a couple of additions got us to mid-table in what is now the Championship. It was only when Gerry left, took Ollie with him and then a few of the other core players went, that things started to go downhill a bit. Who's to say that our squad, with a few quality additions, couldn't do well in league 1? Let's keep our feet on the ground for now, though. Remember that on probability and the bookmakers' odds, we are more likely to not go up than go up this season. Yeah, and the least you can do, is give the opportunity to the players that got you there, the chance to establish themselves at the next level. A player who is trying to get the team to a level he knows he won't be given a chance at, isn't going to be as motivated as a player who believes he will get every chance to prove himself at that level.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 16, 2016 10:29:56 GMT
Some good updates on the Independent Forum if anybody is interested, it still all sounds very positive.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 10:34:25 GMT
Some good updates on the Independent Forum if anybody is interested, it still all sounds very positive. Mind = blown.
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Post by gasincider on Mar 16, 2016 10:34:33 GMT
With regard to 31 Filton Avenue, yet another ' poorly drafted ' item.
TW said that the option of £125,000 was a ransom sum demanded by the lady owner of the property or she would sell to someone else and not let the club have it to complete a potential deal with Sainsbury's. This sounds rather dodgy to me. How difficult would it have been to have drafted it in a similar fashion to this paragraph, but without using the 'ransom' word?
With regard to the £520,000 price tag, this would only be payable by Sainsburys if they had to buy the property, and not by the club. This is also nonsense, because that price would come from the overall figure Sainsburys would have to pay to complete the contract if enforced, in other words it would reduce what was left from the £28m or whatever the settlement deal was.
This is yet more gobbledegook from our former finance director. On top of the naughty typist who mistyped the shareholdings of our directors, to the ' only in the relegation zone for 20 minutes' , I just hope his tenure is coming to a rather swift end. Professional people like our new owners must not be hamstrung by people like him.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Mar 16, 2016 10:38:24 GMT
With regard to 31 Filton Avenue, yet another ' poorly drafted ' item. TW said that the option of £125,000 was a ransom sum demanded by the lady owner of the property or she would sell to someone else and not let the club have it to complete a potential deal with Sainsbury's. This sounds rather dodgy to me. How difficult would it have been to have drafted it in a similar fashion to this paragraph, but without using the 'ransom' word? With regard to the £520,000 price tag, this would only be payable by Sainsburys if they had to buy the property, and not by the club. This is also nonsense, because that price would come from the overall figure Sainsburys would have to pay to complete the contract if enforced, in other words it would reduce what was left from the £28m or whatever the settlement deal was. This is yet more gobbledegook from our former finance director. On top of the naughty typist who mistyped the shareholdings of our directors, to the ' only in the relegation zone for 20 minutes' , I just hope his tenure is coming to a rather swift end. Professional people like our new owners must not be hamstrung by people like him. Was the resolution passed or not?
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