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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 24, 2016 15:39:31 GMT
Its taken us 15 years to recover from his miss-management and yet people would want him back as manager? The mind boggles. Trolls took us back to L1,how is it Holloways fault what has happened since 07 I thought it was Jim Chappells fault. I can't wait for the day when everyone on here will be able to claim it was them who posted the Clarke Out posters at the Mem. Woo woo.
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Post by pirate49 on May 24, 2016 16:14:53 GMT
Warnock for me!
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Post by mumbles on May 24, 2016 16:46:10 GMT
The best football I've seen during my time watching Rovers came under his stewardship. How much of that was down to Penrice I don't know. I wouldn't be averse to having him back at some point.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 16:56:38 GMT
In what way did he jump ship? I don't know much about the first time he left,but I'm pretty sure we sold him to Wimbledon because we needed the money. The 2nd time he was sold he had the opportunity to play in the top flight, why would you begrudge him that? And as manager he was sacked, he didn't walk away into another job. If we would of stayed with Ollie, I don't know whether we would of stayed up in hindsight, but I'm pretty certain he would of got us back at the first attempt, instead we opted for Gary Thompson, Gerry Francis(2nd time round), Phil Bater and Ray Graydon who were disasters. Holloway's record in getting clubs promoted is pretty good. He's done it at Q.P.R, Blackpool and Palace. Whether he would be a good appointment if DC leaves, is hard to answer though. He refused a new contract with us first time around and got a move to Wimbledon. He had health issues, was dropped, loaned out. GF paid his own money to bring him back to Rovers where he made his name. Fair enough if he had an opportunity to better himself but I would rather players acted professionally rather than all this badge-kissing, grandstanding nonsense. When he came back as manager as we know, it all started to go wrong about the 4th season?. The then chairman Geoff Dunford said, on the telly, that Holloway asked to be sacked. That way he got compo and then miraculously got the QPR job. For someone so besotted with the Gas he didn't hesitate when Plymouth manager to hijack our intent to sign Easter, and when at Millwall he stood in Easters way when DC wanted to loan him. He kept him there in the reserves. he has made his name by playing the professional Bristolian, all exaggerated accent and playing the lovable lad. He reminds me of Jimmy Tarbuck and Cilla in that regard, they both traded off their Liverpool roots. As one Scouser said to me "No Scouser has ever said Lorra Lorra Laffs" Regarding Easter; can't you see he was trying to do us a favour!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 17:05:21 GMT
Its taken us 15 years to recover from his miss-management and yet people would want him back as manager? The mind boggles. I would say two players f**ked Holloway and the Rovers over from that era. Jason Roberts and Jamie Cureton. The one player who got the rough end of the stick for their 'f**k you I'm off ' attitude was one of the best keepers Rovers have had, Brian Parkin. Strangely only Cureton gets stick. And he didn't get his move. I'll always remember the first game of the next season when he came out to boos with his head firmly down like a naughty, told off little schoolboy. But to me they are an equal pair of ca'nunts. Plus, Holloway has learnt plenty from those novice days of management.
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Post by ashperry83 on May 24, 2016 18:51:52 GMT
Its taken us 15 years to recover from his miss-management and yet people would want him back as manager? The mind boggles. I would say two players f**ked Holloway and the Rovers over from that era. Jason Roberts and Jamie Cureton. The one player who got the rough end of the stick for their 'f**k you I'm off ' attitude was one of the best keepers Rovers have had, Brian Parkin. Strangely only Cureton gets stick. And he didn't get his move. I'll always remember the first game of the next season when he came out to boos with his head firmly down like a naughty, told off little schoolboy. But to me they are an equal pair of ca'nunts. Plus, Holloway has learnt plenty from those novice days of management. Yep, he's learnt how to play the bumbling Bristol buffoon in the media and people lap it up. Ask Leicester and Argyle fans their thoughts on him. Left them in great positions. As I started watching Rovers in 93', I have no emotional attachment to Holloway. I would guess that most who would want him back have (rightly) fond memories of the 1990 team. However IMO, it also clouds a lot of peoples judgement on his managerial abilty.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 24, 2016 19:22:52 GMT
The best football I've seen during my time watching Rovers came under his stewardship. How much of that was down to Penrice I don't know. I wouldn't be averse to having him back at some point. I'm pretty sure you can put most of our scouting of unknown players like Hayles, Roberts and Ellington down to Penrice.
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Post by peterhooper57 on May 24, 2016 19:23:23 GMT
Ollie, who was one of the best attacking midfielders to ever play for Rovers, would IMO be a tremendous appointment; come back to the MEM and take the club he luvs up to the championship, I cannot wait. UTG
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Post by ricardo on May 24, 2016 19:26:09 GMT
i would point out to the people who are anti-olly that if he does ever come back, it will be as a much more experienced manager than the one that left us.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 19:40:09 GMT
I would say two players f**ked Holloway and the Rovers over from that era. Jason Roberts and Jamie Cureton. The one player who got the rough end of the stick for their 'f**k you I'm off ' attitude was one of the best keepers Rovers have had, Brian Parkin. Strangely only Cureton gets stick. And he didn't get his move. I'll always remember the first game of the next season when he came out to boos with his head firmly down like a naughty, told off little schoolboy. But to me they are an equal pair of ca'nunts. Plus, Holloway has learnt plenty from those novice days of management. Yep, he's learnt how to play the bumbling Bristol buffoon in the media and people lap it up. Ask Leicester and Argyle fans their thoughts on him. Left them in great positions. As I started watching Rovers in 93', I have no emotional attachment to Holloway. I would guess that most who would want him back have (rightly) fond memories of the 1990 team. However IMO, it also clouds a lot of peoples judgement on his managerial abilty. Playing the Bristol Buffon as you put it and the 'taken us 15 years' claptrap to recover from his era are two separate issues. The first one I will give you to a certain extent but the second no chance. Your thoughts on that runaway season which de railed spectacularly due to the two mentioned players are.....
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Post by socrates on May 24, 2016 19:42:11 GMT
Lets hope it doesn't come to it anyway. Well at least not for a while. I really want to see how DC gets on in league 1 with us.
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Post by ashperry83 on May 24, 2016 20:55:41 GMT
Yep, he's learnt how to play the bumbling Bristol buffoon in the media and people lap it up. Ask Leicester and Argyle fans their thoughts on him. Left them in great positions. As I started watching Rovers in 93', I have no emotional attachment to Holloway. I would guess that most who would want him back have (rightly) fond memories of the 1990 team. However IMO, it also clouds a lot of peoples judgement on his managerial abilty. Playing the Bristol Buffon as you put it and the 'taken us 15 years' claptrap to recover from his era are two separate issues. The first one I will give you to a certain extent but the second no chance. Your thoughts on that runaway season which de railed spectacularly due to the two mentioned players are..... My thoughts on the de-railed season and the horrific signings of Wolleaston and Stewart to replace Mauge? I was at Reading away in the March when he acted like a spoilt child and failed to control himself. Got himself sent to the stands and showed a ridiculous lack of discipline. No surprise that that night was the start of the wheels coming off and him losing the dressing room. Its incredibly lazy to place our failings at the feet of Roberts and Cureton that season.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 21:29:21 GMT
Playing the Bristol Buffon as you put it and the 'taken us 15 years' claptrap to recover from his era are two separate issues. The first one I will give you to a certain extent but the second no chance. Your thoughts on that runaway season which de railed spectacularly due to the two mentioned players are..... My thoughts on the de-railed season and the horrific signings of Wolleaston and Stewart to replace Mauge? I was at Reading away in the March when he acted like a spoilt child and failed to control himself. Got himself sent to the stands and showed a ridiculous lack of discipline. No surprise that that night was the start of the wheels coming off and him losing the dressing room. Its incredibly lazy to place our failings at the feet of Roberts and Cureton that season. Jesus Christ. Are you forvreal? Roberts and Cureton downed tools in spectacular fashion,especially Roberts after uncle Cyril put a word in at West Brom. The end of the the Rovers promotion push. As for Mauge,I've never got the Mauge love in myself. Strutted around and put the odd tackle in. A poor mans James Hunt!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 21:31:19 GMT
Lets hope it doesn't come to it anyway. Well at least not for a while. I really want to see how DC gets on in league 1 with us. Fingers crossed the best Rovers manager of all time stays. The achievements of that man under the circumstances is incredible. Not to be underestimated in my book.
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Post by hargravegas on May 24, 2016 21:58:56 GMT
Im hoping we keep DC, but if not im definitely in Favour of getting Holloway back.
UTG
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Post by turdburger on May 25, 2016 10:15:51 GMT
Shopping with his wife at Morrisons Cribbs Causeway ! Is this a Sign ?? I see him in natwest in hanham. Hardly strange a man who lives in bristol is seen shopping in bristol
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Post by turdburger on May 25, 2016 10:21:06 GMT
On a side note. I once saw David James when he was playing for the scum buying goalkeeper gloves in sports direct on a Saturday morning.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 25, 2016 10:33:48 GMT
On a side note. I once saw David James when he was playing for the scum buying goalkeeper gloves in sports direct on a Saturday morning. Did he drop them?
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Post by youmadethatup on May 25, 2016 17:58:27 GMT
Ian Holloway produced a team that played some fantastic football ,the Oldham athletic away game first half was awesome stuff (think it was Astafjevs debut ?) They kicked lumps out of him when they realised he was a class above them. In his own words Holloway said he was too close to rovers . I agree ,his passion overtook a level head that was needed. I don't think he will be back as manager
Whilst he got several teams promoted ,plenty of his clubs got relegated after he left .
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Post by aghast on May 25, 2016 19:32:44 GMT
Ian Holloway produced a team that played some fantastic football ,the Oldham athletic away game first half was awesome stuff (think it was Astafjevs debut ?) They kicked lumps out of him when they realised he was a class above them. In his own words Holloway said he was too close to rovers . I agree ,his passion overtook a level head that was needed. I don't think he will be back as manager Whilst he got several teams promoted ,plenty of his clubs got relegated after he left .Is that criticism or praise?
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