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Post by eastongas on Jun 11, 2016 11:41:37 GMT
I suppose you wouldn't know as you aren't there.
It is hard to walk away when having chairs, bottle etc thrown at you from all directions.
Are there some idiots there? Absolutely but once again the English press over reacting and painting fans in a bad light when they aren't at fault.
You are correct I am not there ,and base my view entirely on the footage I saw on Russian TV. In which no effort was being made to walk away by anyone(not just English people) ,the individuals I saw appeared to be wanting to stay and were enjoying it. It is those I draw my judgement on ,others elsewhere may be acting differently. In that environment it would be hard to walk away especially if you are on your own.
Throughout the last 2/3 days England fans have been having a good time and in good spirits etc with no trouble. The trouble only started when the locals arrived and the Russians but the English will get the blame as it is the easiest thing for the press to report.
It was a stupid idea to put England vs Russia in Marseille after what happened in 98.
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Post by DTGas on Jun 11, 2016 11:50:33 GMT
I'm sure there are some innocent people caught up in the trouble. However jumping up and down waving your hands around singing nationalistic songs whilst making beckoning gestures to the police and other people is hardly the actions of people caught in trouble trying to peacefully get away from it to enjoy the rest of their evening. I suppose you wouldn't know as you aren't there.
It is hard to walk away when having chairs, bottle etc thrown at you from all directions.
Are there some idiots there? Absolutely but once again the English press over reacting and painting fans in a bad light when they aren't at fault.
I'm sure the England fans were only acting in self defence when they decided to set fire to a cafe then?? Its all the d*ckheads who give their clubs a bad name during the season, joining up and doing exactly the same for their country in the summer. |
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Post by eastongas on Jun 11, 2016 11:57:07 GMT
I suppose you wouldn't know as you aren't there.
It is hard to walk away when having chairs, bottle etc thrown at you from all directions.
Are there some idiots there? Absolutely but once again the English press over reacting and painting fans in a bad light when they aren't at fault.
I'm sure the England fans were only acting in self defence when they decided to set fire to a cafe then?? Its all the d*ckheads who give their clubs a bad name during the season, joining up and doing exactly the same for their country in the summer. You mean the café they were sat at before they were attacked? Do you know for certain English fans set fire to it?
D*ckheads for being attacked by other fans...great logic.
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Post by DTGas on Jun 11, 2016 12:06:09 GMT
I'm sure the England fans were only acting in self defence when they decided to set fire to a cafe then?? Its all the d*ckheads who give their clubs a bad name during the season, joining up and doing exactly the same for their country in the summer. You mean the café they were sat at before they were attacked? Do you know for certain English fans set fire to it?
D*ckheads for being attacked by other fans...great logic.
[br England fans have a reputation for a reason, because they cause trouble whenever they travel. I'm not saying it's every fan, but let's not pretend that this is all innocent. There's plenty of videos online of "fans" jumping around with there tops off, launching bottles and chairs etc at police. Have a look for yourself and tell me who's being attacked.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 12:10:38 GMT
You are correct I am not there ,and base my view entirely on the footage I saw on Russian TV. In which no effort was being made to walk away by anyone(not just English people) ,the individuals I saw appeared to be wanting to stay and were enjoying it. It is those I draw my judgement on ,others elsewhere may be acting differently. In that environment it would be hard to walk away especially if you are on your own.
Throughout the last 2/3 days England fans have been having a good time and in good spirits etc with no trouble. The trouble only started when the locals arrived and the Russians but the English will get the blame as it is the easiest thing for the press to report.
It was a stupid idea to put England vs Russia in Marseille after what happened in 98.
I'm thinking this has been done for a reason. Shameful images of British fans disgracing ourselves in Europe just before a big vote? My tin foil hat is on |
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Post by Gastafari on Jun 11, 2016 12:15:18 GMT
I suppose you wouldn't know as you aren't there.
It is hard to walk away when having chairs, bottle etc thrown at you from all directions.
Are there some idiots there? Absolutely but once again the English press over reacting and painting fans in a bad light when they aren't at fault.
You are correct I am not there ,and base my view entirely on the footage I saw on Russian TV. In which no effort was being made to walk away by anyone(not just English people) ,the individuals I saw appeared to be wanting to stay and were enjoying it. It is those I draw my judgement on ,others elsewhere may be acting differently. Walk away, what to get attacked somewhere else? The French-Algerian wankers are all over Marseille targeting us. It's always safer to stay in numbers and stick together. |
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Post by Gastafari on Jun 11, 2016 12:18:26 GMT
I suppose you wouldn't know as you aren't there.
It is hard to walk away when having chairs, bottle etc thrown at you from all directions.
Are there some idiots there? Absolutely but once again the English press over reacting and painting fans in a bad light when they aren't at fault.
I'm sure the England fans were only acting in self defence when they decided to set fire to a cafe then?? Its all the d*ckheads who give their clubs a bad name during the season, joining up and doing exactly the same for their country in the summer. They didn't set fire to a cafe. They were all in there having a beer and a sing song when they were set upon and the French-Algerians who started lobbing gas canisters and Flares. |
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Post by eastongas on Jun 11, 2016 12:28:43 GMT
You mean the café they were sat at before they were attacked? Do you know for certain English fans set fire to it?
D*ckheads for being attacked by other fans...great logic.
[br England fans have a reputation for a reason, because they cause trouble whenever they travel. I'm not saying it's every fan, but let's not pretend that this is all innocent. There's plenty of videos online of "fans" jumping around with there tops off, launching bottles and chairs etc at police. Have a look for yourself and tell me who's being attacked.. As I've said I know there are English idiots out there. I've seen the videos and know people out there and as I've said the before, the English fans are fine until they are attacked by the locals, French, Russians etc.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 11, 2016 12:46:29 GMT
English fans involved in trouble?! surely not?!
I'm sorry but it is not just a coincidence that we have a bad reputation when travelling. If you really believe it then you are deluded.
Let's face it we have too many people/fans who think we are bigger than what we are because of our history as a country. These brainless idiots tarnish our reputation. No doubt they think they are being passionate and fighting for their country. The "we'll do what we want brigade" strike again.
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Post by Big Jock on Jun 11, 2016 13:36:14 GMT
Nae pal, be mare than happy fur th' English tae win, prefer Norn Iron if im honest tho. A' jes enjoy watchin th' footy (an drinkin til i puke) Good luck tae ya all down South  hmm you have gained some respect for this comment. I though all frozen northerners were anti English knobheads like the Welsh. Nae wurries pal. Hey i'll be sittin doon later wit copious amoonts o' alcohol hoping tae see an England win - Jock enjoys his fitba  |
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Post by Big Jock on Jun 11, 2016 13:53:47 GMT
Sweepstake oan how long it takes a commentator/pundit tae mention Scrabble in relation tae th' Albanian players?
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Post by lpgas on Jun 11, 2016 14:57:31 GMT
What a fine example our "Fans" are setting again just what the French authoratise need as if they don't have enough to deal with at the moment makes you proud to be English-----NOT!! But if we leave the EU and WW3 breaks out as predicted by Cameron, at least some of our lads are "ready"  |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jun 11, 2016 16:02:01 GMT
Come on Slovakia! Give us the chance to put Wales out next week!
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Post by Gashead73 on Jun 11, 2016 16:32:10 GMT
Slovakia making Wales look good tbh
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Post by eastongas on Jun 11, 2016 16:36:07 GMT
England fans yet again attacked in Marseille, this time by Russians Ultras.
Videos of them stamping on heads, picking on lone groups etc
Of course drunken English fans fault!
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Post by socrates on Jun 11, 2016 16:49:11 GMT
It doesn't have to be one way or the other.
Message to French police - If a group of blokes are on the water all day chanting , singing and having a great time then don't fire tear gas at them you'll just start trouble.
The English police over there have gone on record saying that the French police do things very differently than our police.
Yes we've got our hooligan element we all know that but with proper policing you can keep it to a minimum but from what I've seen they've made it 10 times worse.
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Post by Staffordshire Gas on Jun 11, 2016 17:18:59 GMT
Wales need to bring Ellis on now!!
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jun 11, 2016 17:21:53 GMT
GTFI. Come in Slovakia!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 11, 2016 17:36:03 GMT
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Post by inee on Jun 11, 2016 17:37:02 GMT
I'm sure the England fans were only acting in self defence when they decided to set fire to a cafe then?? Its all the d*ckheads who give their clubs a bad name during the season, joining up and doing exactly the same for their country in the summer. They didn't set fire to a cafe. They were all in there having a beer and a sing song when they were set upon and the French-Algerians who started lobbing gas canisters and Flares. Kin hell fella ,please don't start telling the truth . Lets face it what will the anti english, englishmen have to slag their own off about. we all know if your born in england you have to be ready to slag off your countrymen at the drop of a hat, and in the spirit of being a modern sheepish copycat, you know when attacked you have to either stand still or run,as defending yourself is not allowed. and yet even if you that,it's still your fault. |
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