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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 5, 2016 11:58:51 GMT
What is your obsession with withdrawing the contract offer? What difference will it make as he has likely got much better offers on the table anyway. I like the way DC has chose to do things personally, it leaves the door ajar whilst warning Taylor that it could be taken off the table at anytime. Why cut off your nose to spite your face? It's clear he doesn't want to stay if he did, he would have signed.
If he does sign, it will be because he had nothing else and we are his last option and he shouldn't he holding around forever. How long do you give it? He's had long enough to make a decision.
It's not a question of not wanting to stay with us. It's a question of him finding the best offer for him, his family and his career. I would give it until we find a replacement. Withdrawing the offer is pointless and like I said - it is just cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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Post by garystash on Jul 5, 2016 11:59:24 GMT
I'm sure there are irons in the fire, and if DC has suspected we'd lose him since the end of last season then i'd be very surprised to find out we haven't. But until someone puts pen to paper the offer must remain on the table. There is no reason to pull it. How long do you give him? We're just over 4 weeks till the season starts. Another week, 2, 3? Got to put a mark on it sometime. I think we carry on like he's not going to be a Rovers player and look for a replacement. If we find someone, we withdraw the offer. Imagine this... It's the day before the season starts and we haven't got anyone else to replace MT. MT - who is a 20+ goal a season striker which is not not easy to find! - turns around and says, okay I'll sign. Do we say a) F#ck off you took too long and our offer is withdrawn. b) Here's a pen, sign here!
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Post by mjhgas on Jul 5, 2016 12:07:49 GMT
Good luck to MT - not the first striker to leave us having been successful!
Hope it works out and he gets a good move! His biggest weakness is his temperament - those two chances v Daggers, and the one away at York in high pressure circumstances, summed him up for me. As someone else has said, the team create the chances and the majority of those are still with us!
UTG!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 5, 2016 12:11:28 GMT
Good luck to MT - not the first striker to leave us having been successful! Hope it works out and he gets a good move! His biggest weakness is his temperament - those two chances v Daggers, and the one away at York in high pressure circumstances, summed him up for me. As someone else has said, the team create the chances and the majority of those are still with us! UTG! And what about he ones he has scored?! His temperament is fine to me.
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Post by baggins on Jul 5, 2016 12:18:28 GMT
How long do you give him? We're just over 4 weeks till the season starts. Another week, 2, 3? Got to put a mark on it sometime. I think we carry on like he's not going to be a Rovers player and look for a replacement. If we find someone, we withdraw the offer. Imagine this... It's the day before the season starts and we haven't got anyone else to replace MT. MT - who is a 20+ goal a season striker which is not not easy to find! - turns around and says, okay I'll sign. Do we say a) F#ck off you took too long and our offer is withdrawn. b) Here's a pen, sign here! I think we've already done the paper and pen bit haven't we? I really don't know what the hold up is.
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Post by baggins on Jul 5, 2016 12:27:22 GMT
How long do you give him? We're just over 4 weeks till the season starts. Another week, 2, 3? Got to put a mark on it sometime. Until we find a replacement. We can't go after someone until he makes his mind up though can we?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 5, 2016 12:28:26 GMT
Until we find a replacement. We can't go after someone until he makes his mind up though can we? Why not? As soon as we find someone, the offer gets withdrawn.
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Post by baggins on Jul 5, 2016 12:32:36 GMT
We can't go after someone until he makes his mind up though can we? Why not? As soon as we find someone, the offer gets withdrawn. So we find someone, offer him the same salary as Taylor thinking he's off, and then he decides to stay. Then what?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 5, 2016 12:36:55 GMT
Why not? As soon as we find someone, the offer gets withdrawn. So we find someone, offer him the same salary as Taylor thinking he's off, and then he decides to stay. Then what? In the very unlikely even that would happen. DC would have to decide whih one he wanted.
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Post by eastongas on Jul 5, 2016 12:40:02 GMT
So we find someone, offer him the same salary as Taylor thinking he's off, and then he decides to stay. Then what? In the very unlikely even that would happen. DC would have to decide whih one he wanted.
Why is that an unlikely scenario?
At the moment the ball in in MT court when the club should be in control. DC has decided he wants Taylor and offered him a deal appropriately, MT has had long enough and should move onto other targets.
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Post by baggins on Jul 5, 2016 12:40:24 GMT
So we find someone, offer him the same salary as Taylor thinking he's off, and then he decides to stay. Then what? In the very unlikely even that would happen. DC would have to decide whih one he wanted. You think we've got the luxury of being able to keep potential replacements hanging on until Taylor makes a decision?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 5, 2016 12:41:53 GMT
In the very unlikely even that would happen. DC would have to decide whih one he wanted. You think we've got the luxury of being able to keep potential replacements hanging on until Taylor makes a decision? Well we sign the replacement then. Either way, your theory of withdrawing the offer is pointless.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 5, 2016 12:43:40 GMT
In the very unlikely even that would happen. DC would have to decide whih one he wanted.
Why is that an unlikely scenario?
At the moment the ball in in MT court when the club should be in control. DC has decided he wants Taylor and offered him a deal appropriately, MT has had long enough and should move onto other targets.
It's only in his court until we find a replacement which could be at any point. The likeliness is he has loads of offers anyway so us withdrawing shouldn't bother him too much. All it would likely do is completely cut off the chances of us keeping him.
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Post by eastongas on Jul 5, 2016 12:47:57 GMT
Why is that an unlikely scenario?
At the moment the ball in in MT court when the club should be in control. DC has decided he wants Taylor and offered him a deal appropriately, MT has had long enough and should move onto other targets.
It's only in his court until we find a replacement which could be at any point. The likeliness is he has loads of offers anyway so us withdrawing shouldn't bother him too much. All it would likely do is completely cut off the chances of us keeping him. At the same time we are potentially missing out on replacements as we sit around waiting for him to make a decision. It's not like we've asked him to make a decision over a day or two he's had plenty of time and if he really wanted to stay, he would have signed by now.
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Post by baggins on Jul 5, 2016 12:50:44 GMT
You think we've got the luxury of being able to keep potential replacements hanging on until Taylor makes a decision? Well we sign the replacement then. Either way, your theory of withdrawing the offer is pointless. We can't sign a replacement until he decides. That is my point.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 5, 2016 12:54:23 GMT
It's only in his court until we find a replacement which could be at any point. The likeliness is he has loads of offers anyway so us withdrawing shouldn't bother him too much. All it would likely do is completely cut off the chances of us keeping him. At the same time we are potentially missing out on replacements as we sit around waiting for him to make a decision. It's not like we've asked him to make a decision over a day or two he's had plenty of time and if he really wanted to stay, he would have signed by now.
How are we? If we're looking at other options whih we will be now then how are we sitting around waiting for him to make a decision? You can put an offer in a for a house but if is no decision is made by the seller then you can carry on looking at other houses and put in offrrs for them if you wish.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 5, 2016 12:55:38 GMT
Well we sign the replacement then. Either way, your theory of withdrawing the offer is pointless. We can't sign a replacement until he decides. That is my point. Why not? We look for oher strikers and if we find one then we sign him and say sorry Taylor you took too long. I don't see why that is so hard for you two to get?
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Post by baggins on Jul 5, 2016 13:01:03 GMT
We can't sign a replacement until he decides. That is my point. Why not? We look for oher strikers and if we find one then we sign him and say sorry Taylor you took too long. I don't see why that is so hard for you two to get? So we approach another striker, agree a deal, and then Taylor says he's going to resign. We then have to go back to the other player and say sorry, no can do, our striker has decided, 5 weeks after our offer, to stay. Great.
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Post by eastongas on Jul 5, 2016 13:01:21 GMT
At the same time we are potentially missing out on replacements as we sit around waiting for him to make a decision. It's not like we've asked him to make a decision over a day or two he's had plenty of time and if he really wanted to stay, he would have signed by now.
How are we? If we're looking at other options whih we will be now then how are we sitting around waiting for him to make a decision? You can put an offer in a for a house but if is no decision is made by the seller then you can carry on looking at other houses and put in offrrs for them if you wish.
Put it this way (figures are just examples).
We are looking at replacements, somebody is available, we agree a fee with their club, agree terms the player for £3,000 a week and we've offered the same to Taylor. Taylor then says he wants to sign with us whilst we've agreed everything with the other player.
We can't afford both player and then risk getting a bad relationship with the selling club, an agent and a number of players.
If we withdraw the contract we are in control of the situation and play it by our terms.
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Post by eastongas on Jul 5, 2016 13:02:07 GMT
Why not? We look for oher strikers and if we find one then we sign him and say sorry Taylor you took too long. I don't see why that is so hard for you two to get? So we approach another striker, agree a deal, and then Taylor says he's going to resign. We then have to go back to the other player and say sorry, no can do, our striker has decided, 5 weeks after our offer, to stay. Great. Just posted this at exactly the same time!
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