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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jul 5, 2016 13:06:23 GMT
Well we sign the replacement then. Either way, your theory of withdrawing the offer is pointless. We can't sign a replacement until he decides. That is my point. he has decided though. He decided to let his contract lapse and not renew. There is a place to fill and we will go off and try to fill it. If he decides he wants to come back then that's fine but currently us having made him an offer is no different really than making an offer for any other free agent out there.
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Post by baggins on Jul 5, 2016 13:10:30 GMT
We can't sign a replacement until he decides. That is my point. he has decided though. He decided to let his contract lapse and not renew. There is a place to fill and we will go off and try to fill it. If he decides he wants to come back then that's fine but currently us having made him an offer is no different really than making an offer for any other free agent out there. It's not fine though as it leaves us unable to make a firm contract offer for a replacement.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 5, 2016 13:12:58 GMT
We can't sign a replacement until he decides. That is my point. he has decided though. He decided to let his contract lapse and not renew. There is a place to fill and we will go off and try to fill it. If he decides he wants to come back then that's fine but currently us having made him an offer is no different really than making an offer for any other free agent out there. Give up mate, I have. You can't educate pork springs to mind.
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Post by Severncider on Jul 5, 2016 13:13:38 GMT
What is your obsession with withdrawing the contract offer? What difference will it make as he has likely got much better offers on the table anyway. I like the way DC has chose to do things personally, it leaves the door ajar whilst warning Taylor that it could be taken off the table at anytime. Why cut off your nose to spite your face? It's clear he doesn't want to stay if he did, he would have signed.
If he does sign, it will be because he had nothing else and we are his last option and he shouldn't he holding around forever. How long do you give it? He's had long enough to make a decision.
If that was correct you would think he would have signed for another club by now.
I'm sure he has received other offers but how they compare to ours is anyones guess. I have no idea and nor does anyone on here.
My own personal opinion. He wants to stay with us but is as indecisive as he is on occassions with the "one on one" situations with the GK.
I wonder if he managed to make up his mind on the Euro vote or even get around to voting before the polling boths closed?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 13:16:05 GMT
It's clear he doesn't want to stay if he did, he would have signed.
If he does sign, it will be because he had nothing else and we are his last option and he shouldn't he holding around forever. How long do you give it? He's had long enough to make a decision.
If that was correct you would think he would have signed for another club by now.
I'm sure he has received other offers but how they compare to ours is anyones guess. I have no idea and nor does anyone on here.
My own personal opinion. He wants to stay with us but is as indecisive as he is on occassions with the "one on one" situations with the GK.
I wonder if he managed to make up his mind on the Euro vote or even get around to voting before the polling boths closed?
I heard it took him 3 times to put his voting slip in the ballot box.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jul 5, 2016 14:15:09 GMT
Good luck to MT - not the first striker to leave us having been successful! Hope it works out and he gets a good move! His biggest weakness is his temperament - those two chances v Daggers, and the one away at York in high pressure circumstances, summed him up for me. As someone else has said, the team create the chances and the majority of those are still with us! UTG! He said himself he was over compensating with those attempts as the Daggers keeper was having a blinder.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 5, 2016 14:55:55 GMT
If that was correct you would think he would have signed for another club by now.
I'm sure he has received other offers but how they compare to ours is anyones guess. I have no idea and nor does anyone on here.
My own personal opinion. He wants to stay with us but is as indecisive as he is on occassions with the "one on one" situations with the GK.
I wonder if he managed to make up his mind on the Euro vote or even get around to voting before the polling boths closed?
I heard it took him 3 times to put his voting slip in the ballot box. and twice to get his main sail in the cup
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Post by yategas78 on Jul 5, 2016 15:25:19 GMT
I'm afraid by putting off the decision to sign for us he would have gone out of favour with a lot of gasheads and I feel he would get a lot of stick if he decides to stay unless of course he starts the season on fire of course!!
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Post by markczgas on Jul 5, 2016 15:36:25 GMT
I'm afraid by putting off the decision to sign for us he would have gone out of favour with a lot of gasheads and I feel he would get a lot of stick if he decides to stay unless of course he starts the season on fire of course!! unless unless if if if maybe although on the other hand , there again !!!!
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Post by bluegas on Jul 5, 2016 15:45:14 GMT
Nice one Mark. Can't help feeling he's just trying to screw more out of Rovers & they're resisting. If a 'big' club really wanted him with a ' big' offer he'd be long gone. The truth is none do.(want him)
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Post by RD on Jul 5, 2016 15:46:15 GMT
Why not? We look for oher strikers and if we find one then we sign him and say sorry Taylor you took too long. I don't see why that is so hard for you two to get? So we approach another striker, agree a deal, and then Taylor says he's going to resign. We then have to go back to the other player and say sorry, no can do, our striker has decided, 5 weeks after our offer, to stay. Great. Not really. As I see it: IF MT signs the contract, he'd do so in the presence of club representatives (that's how it's done). As would any new signing. So the ONLY way the above scenario is possible is if MT was signing in one room and our new signing in another room, at the exact same nano-second AND DC had no idea MT was in the other room signing and/or our new signing was in the other room signing. Surely the chances of that are astronomically slim? Edit: In other words, the moment our new signing agrees to join, we retract MTs offer a split second later. The chances of MT secretly signing his deal the exact same second we agree a deal with a new player is probably about as likely as our sun dying out tomorrow morning. At 6:13am.
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Post by RD on Jul 5, 2016 15:47:04 GMT
Nice one Mark. Can't help feeling he's just trying to screw more out of Rovers & they're resisting. If a 'big' club really wanted him with a ' big' offer he'd be long gone. The truth is none do.(want him) That is quite clearly anything but the truth. He has several offers from other clubs, I think that's pretty obvious.
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Post by singupgas on Jul 5, 2016 15:56:07 GMT
Going by DC interview that Matt has decided to train with a personal trainer gives the impression he is off. Surely if he just wanted to negotiate with us the best contract he would turn up for training.
I like the what dc has said that door won't always be open and if the right player is available it will be closed for Matt.
Also like others has said, this is damaging his relationship with the fans and given that he has has almost 2 months to sign a contract it will be understandable if fans are annoyed and let him know about it if things aren't going well for him.
At the end of the day he's done well for us and after one year playing league football he wants try his luck elsewhere. Bets of luck to him.
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Post by bluegas on Jul 5, 2016 15:59:57 GMT
Nice one Mark. Can't help feeling he's just trying to screw more out of Rovers & they're resisting. If a 'big' club really wanted him with a ' big' offer he'd be long gone. The truth is none do.(want him) That is quite clearly anything but the truth. He has several offers from other clubs, I think that's pretty obvious. [br OK, name them. FFS, if there really were it would be done & dusted. Hal K-R can't seem to get an English club. Get real - there's a surfeit of good players & clubs want their money's worth.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 5, 2016 16:58:18 GMT
he has decided though. He decided to let his contract lapse and not renew. There is a place to fill and we will go off and try to fill it. If he decides he wants to come back then that's fine but currently us having made him an offer is no different really than making an offer for any other free agent out there. It's not fine though as it leaves us unable to make a firm contract offer for a replacement. Any replacement is not our player. Matty Taylor is not our player. The club do not negotiate signings one by one! DC will have bids in for and contracts offered to, multiple players. We don't sign every player we negotiate with, that would be madness!!
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Post by youmadethatup on Jul 5, 2016 17:12:19 GMT
I think DC made it pretty clear. He was pretty sure from the end of last season he would be losing two players . He has given those players the opportunity to re sign or to leave. In the meantime he had players looked at and shortlisted as replacements. Parkes left so Hartley came in. When Taylor finally announces he is leaving for club x DC will shortly announce the player(s) he has signed to fill the void in the squad. It could be that for example the striker priority list for DC was Taylor Gaffney Bodin Easter Harrison
With Taylor leaving you do not HAVE to replace the top player with a new member. They may just all bump up a notch and a new lad joins the bottom of the list (?)
Gaffney Bodin Easter Harrison New boy
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Post by yategas78 on Jul 5, 2016 17:17:29 GMT
If he has the confidence in his ability and thinks he can cut it iat a higher standard then it's a no brainer for him
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jul 5, 2016 17:45:39 GMT
he has decided though. He decided to let his contract lapse and not renew. There is a place to fill and we will go off and try to fill it. If he decides he wants to come back then that's fine but currently us having made him an offer is no different really than making an offer for any other free agent out there. It's not fine though as it leaves us unable to make a firm contract offer for a replacement. why does it? He's gone!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 5, 2016 18:35:23 GMT
Going by DC interview that Matt has decided to train with a personal trainer gives the impression he is off. Surely if he just wanted to negotiate with us the best contract he would turn up for training. I like the what dc has said that door won't always be open and if the right player is available it will be closed for Matt. Also like others has said, this is damaging his relationship with the fans and given that he has has almost 2 months to sign a contract it will be understandable if fans are annoyed and let him know about it if things aren't going well for him. At the end of the day he's done well for us and after one year playing league football he wants try his luck elsewhere. Bets of luck to him. Perhaps MT's just trying to make some kind of point by not training with us, it seems odd he's apparently got all these better offers but has not taken one of them, or being linked with any other club in the press. Is there really going to be a bidding war by Championship clubs for a player with just one league season behind them?
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Post by Icegas on Jul 5, 2016 18:52:42 GMT
I think matty has kind of screwed himself.As DC said- that time where the door is closed to US for him is coming soon and it looks like the big move to a championship side is not going to happen for him or it already would have.I think he will end up at club like Gillingham,Shrewsbury or even Swindon on a far worse offer than he has been offered here.
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