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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 9:20:24 GMT
Not sure Moore deserves to get in ahead of Montano. I have a really good feeling about Monty this season. i just think we signed moore on a 2 year deal and he will get 1st shot at the left midfield position |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 9:33:56 GMT
i think some players will go out on loan pretty quickly
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Post by amgas on Jul 17, 2016 9:40:22 GMT
Moore looked good at Mangotsfield - think both will play a big part this season - ultimately great to have people battling for places.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 17, 2016 9:47:24 GMT
Moore looked good at Mangotsfield - think both will play a big part this season - ultimately great to have people battling for places. He did look ok, Montano looked better. |
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Post by GasAttacK on Jul 17, 2016 10:17:09 GMT
I actually think in terms of established players it looks more like this - which is not a huge squad. Gk 1 from Mildenhall / Puddy Rb 1 from Leadbitter / J Clarke ( cover Lockyear but no one wants him moved from centre back ) Cb 2 from Lockyer / mcCrystal / Hartley ( cover J Clarke but counting him as RB ) Guess we may well play 3 at back and wing backs at times. Lb 1 from Brown Wing 1 from Bodin / Gosling Centre Mid Lines / Mansell / Sinclair ( cover O Clarke / Lawrence ) Wing 1 from Montano / Moore Think the likes of Montano and Moore have played on both sides in pre-season. Striker 2 from Taylor / Gaffney / Easter / Harrison ( cover James ) Based on what I have seen so far of pre-season Broom may play a part - really not sure any of the other youngsters are L1 standard yet. James may be a first team player but reserving judgement until I see more of him. Exactly how I see it. Lucas and Broom could potentially be called on in an emergency but I don't think either are really ready for 1st team footbal in league 1. Little, Kilgour and Greenslade are miles off at the moment and I think we're in trouble if we have to rely on any of those this season. I don't count any of those 5 as first team players. Mildenhall Puddy Leadbitter Clarke Lockyer Hartley McChrystal Brown Bodin Gosling Montano Moore Lines Mansell Sinclair O.Clarke Lawrence Taylor Gaffney Harrison Easter James So 22 first team player. However I don't think Mansell has kicked a ball in pre season and at his age any injuries will take longer to recover from. Sinclair seems to pick up a serios long term injury every season. Gosling and O.Clarke are back upplayers at best and I'm not convinced about either keeper. I'd still like to see a new keeper, an attacking central midfielder to challenge Lines and if possible someone to cover Brown. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 17, 2016 10:17:59 GMT
i think some players will go out on loan pretty quickly So that answers your OP? DC's not an idiot he'll soon look to move players on/loan them out if they aren't up to Div 1 football. |
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Post by stapletongas on Jul 17, 2016 11:04:06 GMT
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Post by slam on Jul 17, 2016 11:25:59 GMT
I am going to go against the grain a bit here and suggest that Gosling may feature a bit more than everyone has been thinking. TBH, I have been quite impressed with what I saw from him in the attacking formations that we adopted towards the end of last season and in the limited pre-season games that I have seen.
I am not sure of his defensive qualities but he is one of the few players in the squad that go "offering" for the ball and he does retain possession well. On top of that he does have a great eye for a defence splitting pass. Ironically, I think that he will be a better player and have more of an impact in a higher league.
I agree that we do need cover in CM and another creative player - but I do think Gosling is a bit under rated.
Time to get the flak jacket!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 11:34:17 GMT
i think some players will go out on loan pretty quickly So that answers your OP? DC's not an idiot he'll soon look to move players on/loan them out if they aren't up to Div 1 football. yes but its an awkward way to operate,still i think the contract incentive did help get us promoted so you cant have everything i suppose. |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jul 17, 2016 11:34:24 GMT
Yes and as you say, it worked a treat. I guess those players offered extensions will be on realistic contracts anyway. I'd like to think DC hasn't hamstrung himself that way. I just can't see Macca or Manse being anything other than dressing room influences this season but I am all for being proven wrong. It's a tough one tbf. I do kind of agree with you. Maybe we can slowly ease them out? As harsh as that sounds. I'm a bit wary of breaking up a winning side. Trollope did that and we went backwards. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 17, 2016 11:42:49 GMT
I am going to go against the grain a bit here and suggest that Gosling may feature a bit more than everyone has been thinking. TBH, I have been quite impressed with what I saw from him in the attacking formations that we adopted towards the end of last season and in the limited pre-season games that I have seen. I am not sure of his defensive qualities but he is one of the few players in the squad that go "offering" for the ball and he does retain possession well. On top of that he does have a great eye for a defence splitting pass. Ironically, I think that he will be a better player and have more of an impact in a higher league. I agree that we do need cover in CM and another creative player - but I do think Gosling is a bit under rated. Time to get the flak jacket!!! Agreed. Can see Gos having a good season. He's a clever and creative player and takes up intelligent positions on the pitch. He's good at finding space in pockets when we attack and should score a few goals with the left foot he has. Reckon DC and the coaches see something in him that they can work with. |
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Post by amgas on Jul 17, 2016 11:44:54 GMT
Biggest mistake we made was letting Steve Elliot go when we should have kept him even if he did not play every week.
Think Mansell is struggling a little for fitness but a useful player when avaiable. McCrystal gets a bit of unfair criticism - played a lot of games and think we have had better results with him in the team than when he has been out ..... Might not be the fastest these days but solid defender and good organiser.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 17, 2016 11:45:27 GMT
It's a tough one tbf. I do kind of agree with you. Maybe we can slowly ease them out? As harsh as that sounds. I'm a bit wary of breaking up a winning side. Trollope did that and we went backwards. I know what you mean, hence why giving them contracts was the right idea but slowly easing them out. If they can prove they are up to this level though then of course there will be no reason to do that. Whether they will be is another matter. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 17, 2016 11:48:48 GMT
Biggest mistake we made was letting Steve Elliot go when we should have kept him even if he did not play every week. Think Mansell is struggling a little for fitness but a useful player when avaiable. McCrystal gets a bit of unfair criticism - played a lot of games and think we have had better results with him in the team than when he has been out ..... Might not be the fastest these days but solid defender and good organiser. Both are great to have in the dressing room. Macca is a good no nonsense league 2 defender IMO, I have major doubts whether he will be up to league 1. Mansell, I think can be a useful squad player in league one but again am doubtful if he will be good enough to be playing regularly. |
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Post by amgas on Jul 17, 2016 11:48:54 GMT
Think "easing them out" sounds a bit harsh - clearly the team will evolve and hopefully we will have new players come through - think we may have to accept some players will need resting, but that is why squad size is about right.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 17, 2016 11:51:45 GMT
Think "easing them out" sounds a bit harsh - clearly the team will evolve and hopefully we will have new players come through - think we may have to accept some players will need resting, but that is why squad size is about right. It possibly was a harsh way of putting it but that is what will effectively happen if we want to push forward. |
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Post by Strange Gas on Jul 17, 2016 13:36:39 GMT
I am going to go against the grain a bit here and suggest that Gosling may feature a bit more than everyone has been thinking. TBH, I have been quite impressed with what I saw from him in the attacking formations that we adopted towards the end of last season and in the limited pre-season games that I have seen. I am not sure of his defensive qualities but he is one of the few players in the squad that go "offering" for the ball and he does retain possession well. On top of that he does have a great eye for a defence splitting pass. Ironically, I think that he will be a better player and have more of an impact in a higher league. I agree that we do need cover in CM and another creative player - but I do think Gosling is a bit under rated. Time to get the flak jacket!!! I do think (hope?) style of football we need to play to excel going forward in league 1 will be different so agree with this point about gosling (maybe others too). Slight worry about how many of the team can transform their game for this though. Ironically we could be a bit leaky at the back after two seasons where defence has been a strength |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jul 17, 2016 13:55:05 GMT
I am going to go against the grain a bit here and suggest that Gosling may feature a bit more than everyone has been thinking. TBH, I have been quite impressed with what I saw from him in the attacking formations that we adopted towards the end of last season and in the limited pre-season games that I have seen. I am not sure of his defensive qualities but he is one of the few players in the squad that go "offering" for the ball and he does retain possession well. On top of that he does have a great eye for a defence splitting pass. Ironically, I think that he will be a better player and have more of an impact in a higher league. I agree that we do need cover in CM and another creative player - but I do think Gosling is a bit under rated. Time to get the flak jacket!!! Can also see Gos being more important this year. I remember our first game against Grimsby, and he offered so much more than anyone else on the pitch and I thought we had a gem. Didn't really build on it though. That said, in the same game I thought Leadbitter was one of the most useless defenders ever and now he'd be one of the first names on the team sheet. |
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Post by slam on Jul 17, 2016 14:12:52 GMT
One of DC's most brilliant qualities has been the way in which he has developed not just the squad, but also the individual players within the squad. Every single player has improved as we have gone along and, at no stage, have we appeared to have a square peg in a round hole.
I think the current squad (predominantly a conference squad) will continue to develop and that we will more than hold our own in League 1. I also think that there will be chances for almost every player to shine during the course of the next campaign.
I wouldn't have been too worried even if MT hadn't signed - I am convinced BB would have assumed his mantle. But I have also been impressed with Jermaine Easter when he plays in that little hole behind the front 2.
I think that, as we develop further, we are going to have more than just the standard 4-4-2 and 3-5-2 options that we used last year. It is going to be a really interesting season.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 17, 2016 15:15:34 GMT
One of DC's most brilliant qualities has been the way in which he has developed not just the squad, but also the individual players within the squad. Every single player has improved as we have gone along and, at no stage, have we appeared to have a square peg in a round hole. I think the current squad (predominantly a conference squad) will continue to develop and that we will more than hold our own in League 1. I also think that there will be chances for almost every player to shine during the course of the next campaign. I wouldn't have been too worried even if MT hadn't signed - I am convinced BB would have assumed his mantle. But I have also been impressed with Jermaine Easter when he plays in that little hole behind the front 2. I think that, as we develop further, we are going to have more than just the standard 4-4-2 and 3-5-2 options that we used last year. It is going to be a really interesting season. I noticed that when we signed James DC said that one of his best positions is on either side of a front three - which makes me think we may see us playing 4-3-3 at some points this season. Maybe something like: ____________Mildenhall Leadbitter_Lockyer_Hartley_Brown _____________Mansell _________Lines______Sinclair ___Bodin______Taylor______James |
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