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Post by lpgas on Aug 10, 2016 9:19:07 GMT
I like Ollie Clarke, he's one of our own, and so gets more scrutiny than players we have signed. Lawrence, slow and injury prone, and apart from one free kick has done nothing. Gosling, hopeless when it comes to tackling, or crossing
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 9:34:19 GMT
I like Ollie Clarke, he's one of our own, and so gets more scrutiny than players we have signed. Lawrence, slow and injury prone, and apart from one free kick has done nothing. Gosling, hopeless when it comes to tackling, or crossing Paul, Lawrence has had 6 promotions and his experience around the changing room would have been invaluable to DC and the players for our run in. There was one home game at the end where Lee Brown had 2 assists but the balls to him were from Lawrence and the game before this he had a assist to Taylor I think. Brendan Rogers got rid of his experience in Reina and Carragher and it cost him the title and his job. Trollope did the same with Elliott, Disley and Lescott and some manager don't value experience or can man manage it. Give me a Lawrence any day talking himself around the pitch in central midfield than a rookie kicking the ball away in frustration. I'm just going throw our office printer against the wall because we are out of ink. My boss will be ok even though no one else will be able to use it all day 😂
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 10, 2016 9:35:52 GMT
I'm with Roadman on this one. IMO Ollie Clarke should have been substituted the minute he was booked because he is in the team to win the ball and put in tackles. As soon as he did this he could no longer complete this task. I personally don't think he is capable of doing the task anyway and to say "young player" is absolute rubbish. Ollie Clarke is now of the age where he should be producing week in week out but for me he is Conference or bottom League 2 at best and particularly as we were playing Sinclair we may as well have played Easter in central midfield. OK he can't tackle that well but neither could Ollie Clarke once he had been booked. IMO we should have signed at least one central midfielder in the summer. Who exactly are we waiting for? Certainly not someone who is 100% sure about wanting to play for us. There were plenty of players around in the summer who are better than what we have and IMO if Wael does have the financial clout then we should be going in for two central midfielders who have shone for their team whether that is League 1 or League 2. The best in League 2 in all honesty as regards footballers could do a good job in League 1 whereas the average ones may not. So if any of the back 4 or 5 plus 2 x CM's get booked in the first half in future matches then we should expect DC to immediately sub them, as they are all in the team to tackle as one of thier main parts of their game? Some posters do talk utter nonsense on here sometimes. I'd like to know who DC was going to replace OC with after 20 mins on Saturday as Easter would probably never last 70+ mins in a CM role.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 10:13:20 GMT
I like Ollie Clarke, he's one of our own, and so gets more scrutiny than players we have signed. Lawrence, slow and injury prone, and apart from one free kick has done nothing. Gosling, hopeless when it comes to tackling, or crossing
Re O Clarke - Really? I got the impression it was quite the opposite in that fans were more tolerant for wanting a local boy to succeed. Re Gosling - Abso-friggin-lutely...hopefully he keeps morale high in the dressing room as he does very little on the pitch.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 10, 2016 10:35:11 GMT
The point being Topper Gas (as I am sure you knew) is that Centre midfield is so important when you are playing with somebody like Lines who also cannot tackle and it was sheer stupidity as it is for ANYONE to get booked so early on for kicking the ball away. I am not convinced that Ollie at his best is League 1 material but without being able to put in a serious tackle for the fear of being sent off (especially with that referee who was very much a homer)he was no use whatsoever to the team. Easter looks well fit enough to last the whole game.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 10, 2016 10:37:37 GMT
I'm with Roadman on this one. IMO Ollie Clarke should have been substituted the minute he was booked because he is in the team to win the ball and put in tackles. As soon as he did this he could no longer complete this task. I personally don't think he is capable of doing the task anyway and to say "young player" is absolute rubbish. Ollie Clarke is now of the age where he should be producing week in week out but for me he is Conference or bottom League 2 at best and particularly as we were playing Sinclair we may as well have played Easter in central midfield. OK he can't tackle that well but neither could Ollie Clarke once he had been booked. IMO we should have signed at least one central midfielder in the summer. Who exactly are we waiting for? Certainly not someone who is 100% sure about wanting to play for us. There were plenty of players around in the summer who are better than what we have and IMO if Wael does have the financial clout then we should be going in for two central midfielders who have shone for their team whether that is League 1 or League 2. The best in League 2 in all honesty as regards footballers could do a good job in League 1 whereas the average ones may not. So if any of the back 4 or 5 plus 2 x CM's get booked in the first half in future matches then we should expect DC to immediately sub them, as they are all in the team to tackle as one of thier main parts of their game? Some posters do talk utter nonsense on here sometimes. I'd like to know who DC was going to replace OC with after 20 mins on Saturday as Easter would probably never last 70+ mins in a CM role. Plus isn't and never will be a CM, IMO.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 10, 2016 11:21:34 GMT
Strange thread. I was in the ground very early on Saturday and it looked as if Gosling and Broome were having a fitness test with Steve Y. That they weren't on the bench tells me they probably failed it but I don't know for sure. So that tells me we were even shorter on options for centre midfield. It was silly booking for OC but he did tackle and I thought played ok. Whilst we were under pressure before their first goal I thought we were coping with it. When we went 442 our midfield was overrun and we lost. It wasn't just OCs fault. My concern is that with SS and OC in the team although we know it will be a committed and hard working team, I just wonder if there's enough creativity to create goal making chances. Matty T and Gaffs were not getting many ball to feet passes and against a weak goalie it wasn't good enough. I guess overall we don't know how many of our squad will be League 1 players. I'm fairly confident that most will be ok but some obviously won't be and if we can get a mid table position this year I would expect a clearing out next summer. We need Manse and LL to be available as they were missed. DC has always said its up to players to prove they are good enough and at the moment it's too early to say with certainty. It's all about opinions. Whichever it is IMO it would be good to get a midfielder in asap.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 10, 2016 11:28:19 GMT
Maybe not but he (Easter) has a football brain and actually passes to players with the same colour shirt unlike Ollie Clarke. Surely you haven't forgotten the pass to Taylor that set up our promotion winner? We were crying out on Saturday for a player who could actually hold the ball and pass FORWARDS to a player in the same colour shirt.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 10, 2016 11:58:21 GMT
The point being Topper Gas (as I am sure you knew) is that Centre midfield is so important when you are playing with somebody like Lines who also cannot tackle and it was sheer stupidity as it is for ANYONE to get booked so early on for kicking the ball away. I am not convinced that Ollie at his best is League 1 material but without being able to put in a serious tackle for the fear of being sent off (especially with that referee who was very much a homer)he was no use whatsoever to the team. Easter looks well fit enough to last the whole game. I missed the Cheltenham game but the two pre-season games I've seen Easter in I can't recall one thing of note he did, all he seems to want to do his collect the ball and then immediately pass it back to a team mate behind him, I'm not sure if this is the way he's always played but surely he's capable of taking the ball forward for few yards, I know it sounds crazy but perhaps he could have the odd shot at goal as well? He's our new Matt Gill just why DC signed him on a long contract is one of life's mysteries.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 13:16:48 GMT
Ok so we have people saying Easter isn't a striker and isn't a midfielder. He certainly isn't a winger so it begs the question what does he offer to BRFC?
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Post by oddsongas on Aug 10, 2016 13:21:44 GMT
Ok so we have people saying Easter isn't a striker and isn't a midfielder. He certainly isn't a winger so it begs the question what does he offer to BRFC? He's a footballer!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 13:23:22 GMT
Ok so we have people saying Easter isn't a striker and isn't a midfielder. He certainly isn't a winger so it begs the question what does he offer to BRFC? He did well in behind the strikers when we played 4-3-1-2 on occasion last year. He's a bit part player at this level but still can contribute and provide some quality from time to time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 13:40:41 GMT
Ok so we have people saying Easter isn't a striker and isn't a midfielder. He certainly isn't a winger so it begs the question what does he offer to BRFC? He did well in behind the strikers when we played 4-3-1-2 on occasion last year. He's a bit part player at this level but still can contribute and provide some quality from time to time.
That's the thing though, we rarely play a formation which can play to his strengths and we wont be building a team around him, so still leaves me wondering what he offers us.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 10, 2016 14:50:19 GMT
Maybe not but he (Easter) has a football brain and actually passes to players with the same colour shirt unlike Ollie Clarke. Surely you haven't forgotten the pass to Taylor that set up our promotion winner? We were crying out on Saturday for a player who could actually hold the ball and pass FORWARDS to a player in the same colour shirt. Steve, don't know if that was aimed at me as it followed my post but I completely agree about Easter being a good option for midfield, always has time, one of our best passers and appears clinical and calm when others around him are panicking and no, who could forget his pass. He just might lack a big of energy for midfield. UTG!
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Post by LJG on Aug 10, 2016 15:11:03 GMT
Kicking the ball away Kicking the baaalllll away
He drinks a whiskey drink He drinks a vodka drink He drinks a lager drink He drinks a cider drink
Oh Ollie boy, Linesy boy, Mildi booooyyyy
I get Roadman-ed but I get up again ...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 15:35:02 GMT
He did well in behind the strikers when we played 4-3-1-2 on occasion last year. He's a bit part player at this level but still can contribute and provide some quality from time to time.
That's the thing though, we rarely play a formation which can play to his strengths and we wont be building a team around him, so still leaves me wondering what he offers us.
He's a squad player. Will fill in up front every so often from the bench, and as I say on the rare occasion we use that formation he'll play in behind. Every team has squad players, JE isn't a bad option in that regard. You're not gonna build a L1 team around him but that doesn't mean he has nowt to offer. Not sure what else to say
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Aug 10, 2016 16:16:39 GMT
Ok so we have people saying Easter isn't a striker and isn't a midfielder. He certainly isn't a winger so it begs the question what does he offer to BRFC? The quality ball that led to our promotion winning goal? That will do for me, for starters!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 16:59:49 GMT
That's the thing though, we rarely play a formation which can play to his strengths and we wont be building a team around him, so still leaves me wondering what he offers us.
He's a squad player. Will fill in up front every so often from the bench, and as I say on the rare occasion we use that formation he'll play in behind. Every team has squad players, JE isn't a bad option in that regard. You're not gonna build a L1 team around him but that doesn't mean he has nowt to offer. Not sure what else to say
I get what you are saying, but I feel his wages (which must be top-end at the club?) could be better spent on other players who can improve the team. He is a decent player at most, nothing special, but the output we get from him probably isn't worth the amount we are paying him. I bet Gills are playing less for JET and will get far more from him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 18:49:04 GMT
He's a squad player. Will fill in up front every so often from the bench, and as I say on the rare occasion we use that formation he'll play in behind. Every team has squad players, JE isn't a bad option in that regard. You're not gonna build a L1 team around him but that doesn't mean he has nowt to offer. Not sure what else to say
I get what you are saying, but I feel his wages (which must be top-end at the club?) could be better spent on other players who can improve the team. He is a decent player at most, nothing special, but the output we get from him probably isn't worth the amount we are paying him. I bet Gills are playing less for JET and will get far more from him.
Easter was good coming off the bench towards the end of the season,but when you look at it like that,is what we get worth the money if he is one of the higher earners umm.. i'm not sure it is. As for JET I see he scored a couple last night
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 10, 2016 19:51:34 GMT
That's the thing though, we rarely play a formation which can play to his strengths and we wont be building a team around him, so still leaves me wondering what he offers us.
He's a squad player. Will fill in up front every so often from the bench, and as I say on the rare occasion we use that formation he'll play in behind. Every team has squad players, JE isn't a bad option in that regard. You're not gonna build a L1 team around him but that doesn't mean he has nowt to offer. Not sure what else to say OC is a squad, probably earning a third of Easter's salary, but at least he may improve whereas Easter clearly isn't going to get any better at his age. God knows how he managed to get a 2+ years contract out of DC.
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