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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 22:36:57 GMT
i guess the city thing is that the players mentioned played lots of games in a team that won this division easily but of course no player is a sure thing but apart from moore and james most have our signings have barely any experience of any senior football! i just feel we signed 7 when 2 more experienced players would have been better. of course if say 4 of the 7 do very well this season then my fears will be unfounded. It's a marathon now though not a sprint as the loan windows shut to January, what happened if we signed 2 players and one struggled for form/suffered a serious injury, DC would be down to one extra player, whereas not he has 5 or 6 even 1 or 2 struggle. Although I don't know why he didn't sign one experienced CM or CF when in the past we've signed Monky, Lines, Lawrence and even Fallon (perhaps the last two have put DC off signing experienced pros!) yes very good point by you,im just worried we havnt actually improved our 1st choice 11 but colkett,boateng and the others might prove me wrong? if people come on here late in the year and bring my thread up to ridicule me i will be very happy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 12:12:41 GMT
byron moore 356 app 40 goals a good career but a injury hit start for rovers peter hartley 250 app 20 goals played in the stevenage and hartlepool relegation teams in league 1 a mixed start for us but looks very uncomfortable in a back 3 loans, luke james 150 app 21 goals a promising young player whose career has nosedived,has done nothing of note at all yet with rovers connor roberts 45 app 0 goals 45 league 2 games in a desperately poor yeovil town team hiram boateng 29 app 1 goal most of his appearances in league 2 with plymouth,,good debut with the ball for rovers but i didnt see him defending much? jake clarke-salter 1 app 0 goals a promising kid with no experience of league football and with an injury charlie colkett 1 app 0 goals promising boy with no experience of league football,looked ok against a tiring 10 man rochdale. apart from byron moore none of our signings have done a damn thing in this division and i think we should have spent the money we paid for 7 on 2 or 3 nearer certain bets in this league any 2 or 3 would have been better bets than the 7 for me,,,, charlie mulgrew leon best jay simpson derrick williams scott wagstaffe john brayford kieran agard lloyd dyer jay emanuel thomas not saying we could have got them the young kids we have might turn out great but im puzzled we didnt get a couple of proven top quality league 1 standard players an example of which are in my list. hope we dont regret it any opinions? i put this thread i started on sept 11th to show people i was worried about the signings long before now even if my suggested signings were unrealistic we need experience in january badly.
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Post by mehewmagic on Dec 18, 2016 13:08:07 GMT
Great. Have a biscuit.
Signing a million pound player (Agard) is so realistic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 14:13:21 GMT
Great. Have a biscuit. Signing a million pound player (Agard) is so realistic. expecting inexperienced players like boateng,roberts,salter,roos and colkett to cut the mustard is unrealistic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 14:25:32 GMT
byron moore 356 app 40 goals a good career but a injury hit start for rovers peter hartley 250 app 20 goals played in the stevenage and hartlepool relegation teams in league 1 a mixed start for us but looks very uncomfortable in a back 3 loans, luke james 150 app 21 goals a promising young player whose career has nosedived,has done nothing of note at all yet with rovers connor roberts 45 app 0 goals 45 league 2 games in a desperately poor yeovil town team hiram boateng 29 app 1 goal most of his appearances in league 2 with plymouth,,good debut with the ball for rovers but i didnt see him defending much? jake clarke-salter 1 app 0 goals a promising kid with no experience of league football and with an injury charlie colkett 1 app 0 goals promising boy with no experience of league football,looked ok against a tiring 10 man rochdale. apart from byron moore none of our signings have done a damn thing in this division and i think we should have spent the money we paid for 7 on 2 or 3 nearer certain bets in this league any 2 or 3 would have been better bets than the 7 for me,,,, charlie mulgrew leon best jay simpson derrick williams scott wagstaffe john brayford kieran agard lloyd dyer jay emanuel thomas not saying we could have got them the young kids we have might turn out great but im puzzled we didnt get a couple of proven top quality league 1 standard players an example of which are in my list. hope we dont regret it any opinions? i put this thread i started on sept 11th to show people i was worried about the signings long before now even if my suggested signings were unrealistic we need experience in january badly. And the GGMI award for "nah nah told you so" goes to.... 1973. Jay Simpson, is on nearly £10K P/W at Leyton Orient, we'd have to pay him more than that to sign him, so you think we should be shelling out £11K P/W+ for league 2 players, do you?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 14:26:39 GMT
Great. Have a biscuit. Signing a million pound player (Agard) is so realistic. expecting inexperienced players like boateng,roberts,salter,roos and colkett to cut the mustard is unrealistic. Not really mate. Yeovil especially over the years have done pretty well with their young loanees from premiership clubs. I would say it is the attitude from these loans, although only an educated guess. It is not the route I would prefer personally given the way young footballers play the billy big bollocks from a young age nowadays. Perhaps they expect to play and don't like the answer when the team sheet is shown?
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Post by paulpirate on Dec 18, 2016 14:29:58 GMT
i put this thread i started on sept 11th to show people i was worried about the signings long before now even if my suggested signings were unrealistic we need experience in january badly. And the GGMI award for "nah nah told you so" goes to.... 1973. Jay Simpson, is on nearly £10K P/W at Leyton Orient, we'd have to pay him more than that to sign him, so you think we should be shelling out £11K P/W+ for league 2 players, do you? were lose that on gate receipts soon if we don't pick up
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Post by mariobalotelli on Dec 18, 2016 14:36:18 GMT
And the GGMI award for "nah nah told you so" goes to.... 1973. Jay Simpson, is on nearly £10K P/W at Leyton Orient, we'd have to pay him more than that to sign him, so you think we should be shelling out £11K P/W+ for league 2 players, do you? were lose that on gate receipts soon if we don't pick up Not the clubs fault the fans are fickle.
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Post by pucklegas on Dec 18, 2016 14:37:59 GMT
That's the trouble when you employ stevie wonder as your chief scout!
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 18, 2016 14:38:14 GMT
expecting inexperienced players like boateng,roberts,salter,roos and colkett to cut the mustard is unrealistic. Not really mate. Yeovil especially over the years have done pretty well with their young loanees from premiership clubs. I would say it is the attitude from these loans, although only an educated guess. It is not the route I would prefer personally given the way young footballers play the billy big bollocks from a young age nowadays. Perhaps they expect to play and don't like the answer when the team sheet is shown?
But that doesn't explain why Boateng & Colkett were so poor yesterday after being named on the team sheet? As far as Roberts is he really worse than JC at right back after yesterday's performance, in fact what is JC's prefered position as I thought it was CB not RB? As far as the OP our problem is we've no idea what budget Wael gave DC in the summer, I guess we assumed at least mid table but DC's now saying bottom 8 with a big chunk of that taken by the likes of Gosling & co who are only here because of last season's promotion offer.
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Post by paulpirate on Dec 18, 2016 14:41:43 GMT
were lose that on gate receipts soon if we don't pick up Not the clubs fault the fans are fickle. its not about being fickle,if a club isn't doing or playing well apart from the die hard support who would want to pay and watch sh** football I was going to Charlton away but after watching that yesterday I'm not driving 7 hours and spending over £100 if they can't put the effort in That's not being fickle that's being realistic,if my work was sh**e I would have no work simple as that
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Post by gasincider on Dec 18, 2016 14:45:32 GMT
Not the clubs fault the fans are fickle. No. It's the players. The oldest economic platitude in the book. Supply and demand. If the team supply the goodies the fans will turn up. We've seen that over the last two years. If they don't, the fans won't turn up. Its the least surprising outcome in football. Where is the shock? But I will go to Charlton
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 14:46:50 GMT
Not really mate. Yeovil especially over the years have done pretty well with their young loanees from premiership clubs. I would say it is the attitude from these loans, although only an educated guess. It is not the route I would prefer personally given the way young footballers play the billy big bollocks from a young age nowadays. Perhaps they expect to play and don't like the answer when the team sheet is shown?
But that doesn't explain why Boateng & Colkett were so poor yesterday after being named on the team sheet? As far as Roberts is he really worse than JC at right back after yesterday's performance, in fact what is JC's prefered position as I thought it was CB not RB? As far as the OP our problem is we've no idea what budget Wael gave DC in the summer, I guess we assumed at least mid table but DC's now saying bottom 8 with a big chunk of that taken by the likes of Gosling & co who are only here because of last season's promotion offer. It doesn't explain players poor performance yesterday but it may well explain a player being watered off? Play sh**e and get sent back to the big club where they belong? who knows but if a player isn't happy they know how to go through the motions, we have all seen that over the years. As for JC I thought he was just a squad/utility player not a first choice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 14:50:46 GMT
Not the clubs fault the fans are fickle. its not about being fickle,if a club isn't doing or playing well apart from the die hard support who would want to pay and watch sh** football I was going to Charlton away but after watching that yesterday I'm not driving 7 hours and spending over £100 if they can't put the effort in That's not being fickle that's being realistic,if my work was sh**e I would have no work simple as that Wincanton Races Boxing day mate. A fair few Rovers will be attending
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 18, 2016 14:51:16 GMT
Roberts has clearly had enough, who can blame him, but he's only 1 player that doesn't explain the other's failings lately. JC now seems 1st choice RB if DC wants a stronger(!) back 4.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 14:52:54 GMT
i put this thread i started on sept 11th to show people i was worried about the signings long before now even if my suggested signings were unrealistic we need experience in january badly. And the GGMI award for "nah nah told you so" goes to.... 1973. Jay Simpson, is on nearly £10K P/W at Leyton Orient, we'd have to pay him more than that to sign him, so you think we should be shelling out £11K P/W+ for league 2 players, do you? i just wanted to show it wasnt a knee jerk reaction to bad results,i was worried about the signings from the outset.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 18, 2016 14:53:27 GMT
Not the clubs fault the fans are fickle. No. It's the players. The oldest economic platitude in the book. Supply and demand. If the team supply the goodies the fans will turn up. We've seen that over the last two years. If they don't, the fans won't turn up. Its the least surprising outcome in football. Where is the shock? But I will go to Charlton Your brave to want to go there after the recent Mem thrashing! Perhaps Manse will be fully fit to play by then to give the CM some bite as I doubt we'll have any new signings on board by then.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Dec 18, 2016 15:03:31 GMT
Not the clubs fault the fans are fickle. its not about being fickle,if a club isn't doing or playing well apart from the die hard support who would want to pay and watch sh** football I was going to Charlton away but after watching that yesterday I'm not driving 7 hours and spending over £100 if they can't put the effort in That's not being fickle that's being realistic,if my work was sh**e I would have no work simple as that Whatever way you want to word it, it's still fickle.
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Post by chilly1883 on Dec 18, 2016 15:04:21 GMT
Disagree. Prefer the 7 signings rather than 2 or 3 marquee signings. Cover in every position. Had we not re-signed Matty T then DC might have brought in a 'marquee' striker. Think Big Pete Hartley will be a success and notch about 10 goals. Roos is an upgrade on Mildy & Puddsy. HiRambo is a Beast. Potential player of the year. Byron Moore - Impossible to judge yet as he hasn't been fit (note: Wagstaff has missed the first month for Gills with injury).
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Post by paulpirate on Dec 18, 2016 15:34:02 GMT
its not about being fickle,if a club isn't doing or playing well apart from the die hard support who would want to pay and watch sh** football I was going to Charlton away but after watching that yesterday I'm not driving 7 hours and spending over £100 if they can't put the effort in That's not being fickle that's being realistic,if my work was sh**e I would have no work simple as that Whatever way you want to word it, it's still fickle. if I was fickle I would of stopped going years ago,the club need those fickle supporters else we would be buggered
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