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Post by gasincider on Sept 28, 2016 22:05:38 GMT
Barnsley - Manager suspended QPR - Jimmy Floyd Hasslebank under investigation Leeds - can you believe it? Cellino been named The sh**? - here's hoping
Relegate the lot of em. Or at least promote us. We are squeaky clean.
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Post by bluegas on Sept 28, 2016 22:17:04 GMT
Isn't it Nigel Pearson at Derby suspended? Or is he yet another?
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Post by philbemmygas on Sept 29, 2016 6:47:41 GMT
Isn't it Nigel Pearson at Derby suspended? Or is he yet another? I thought he was suspended because they were cr*p. Next they will be accusing Oysten and Steve (pie-eating) Evans of dodgy dealings
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Post by Russgas on Sept 29, 2016 7:00:50 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37500734Barnsley have suspended assistant manager Tommy Wright after he was named in a Daily Telegraph investigation alleging corruption in football. Wright is filmed apparently being given an envelope of money in return for allegedly helping persuade Barnsley to sign players from a fake Far East firm. The newspaper claims he accepted £5,000 at a meeting in Leeds in August. The Championship club say he has been suspended "pending an internal investigation into these allegations". The Daily Telegraph's investigation involved Wright being introduced to members of the Far East firm, who were undercover reporters, by two football agents. "I can just recommend players to you that I've gone and seen, and you will have to do your spicy dealing, whatever you do," Wright is filmed saying during one of a number of meetings. Wright says "you know where I live" when the subject of giving him money is raised. He tells a member of the firm "cheers, just put it there," when a person hands him the envelope before the newspaper claims he left with it in his pocket. The article makes it clear that there is no suggestion Barnsley were aware of Wright's actions. Meanwhile, a spokesman for Mr Wright is quoted as saying: "Any suggested acts contrary to criminal law or those of the FA and Fifa are categorically denied." The latest allegations come a day after the Telegraph claimed eight current or former Premier League managers had taken bribes for player transfers. Sam Allardyce left his post as England manager on Tuesday after claims in the newspaper that he offered advice on how to "get around" rules on player transfers. In a separate meeting, QPR manager Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is filmed apparently negotiating a fee to travel to Singapore to speak to the Far East firm. The Dutchman also allegedly discusses the possibility of signing players from them. He has not been suspended by the Championship club who say "there will be a thorough internal investigation regarding this matter". QPR's statement added: "However, we have every confidence in our manager and the robust systems and processes the club has in place." Former Chelsea striker Hasselbaink also issued a statement in which he denied "any accusations of wrongdoing on my part". "I was approached by Mr McGarvey and Ms Newell of The Telegraph purporting to be players' agents. They offered me a fee to make a speech in Singapore. "I do not see anything unusual in being offered to be paid to make a speech. "I did not make any promises in return. I did not ask QPR to purchase any of the players who were said to be managed by Mr McGarvey and Ms Newell and did not and would not recommend the purchase of a player for my personal gain." Controversial Leeds owner Massimo Cellino was also filmed by the Telegraph offering undercover reporters posing as an investment firm a way to get around FA and Fifa third-party ownership rules. In a meeting at Leeds' ground, arranged by football agent Pino Pagliara, Cellino apparently offered to sell shares in the Championship club as a means of funding the purchase of players. The Italian proposed the fictitious firm buy 20% of the club, in return for which it would receive the same percentage of future player sell-on fees. In the video, Cellino says: "I tell you, I spend eight million this year... on new players. "You want to finance that? You want to come 20% in that? You got 20% of the player - it's the only way. "As a shareholder you can finance the club, asking everything you want - percentage - you are allowed to do it in England." Leeds claimed the footage of their owner amounted to a "non-story" as Cellino "made a perfectly proper suggestion which is entirely consistent with the FA's regulations". The statement added: "If a company commits money to a club by way of investment, taking on the potential for profit but also the risk for loss, then that is a normal, everyday corporate process. "This is plainly not a suggestion as to how to circumvent the rules, but rather, an accurate albeit concise explanation of how to operate within the confines of the rules and effectively become 'the club'."
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Post by wrongsideoftheriver on Sept 29, 2016 7:08:56 GMT
I cant wait for Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink squirm like a rat under a spot light, imo one of the biggest prats in football.
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Post by newmarketgas on Sept 29, 2016 7:24:36 GMT
Why avoid the prem clubs, yesterday they said 8 managers on the fiddle, today they name championship clubs ! Are they avoiding the Prem clubs ? Has the paper been paid off ?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 29, 2016 7:42:10 GMT
Controversial Leeds owner Massimo Cellino was also filmed by the Telegraph offering undercover reporters posing as an investment firm a way to get around FA and Fifa third-party ownership rules. In a meeting at Leeds' ground, arranged by football agent Pino Pagliara, Cellino apparently offered to sell shares in the Championship club as a means of funding the purchase of players. The Italian proposed the fictitious firm buy 20% of the club, in return for which it would receive the same percentage of future player sell-on fees. In the video, Cellino says: "I tell you, I spend eight million this year... on new players. "You want to finance that? You want to come 20% in that? You got 20% of the player - it's the only way. "As a shareholder you can finance the club, asking everything you want - percentage - you are allowed to do it in England." Leeds claimed the footage of their owner amounted to a "non-story" as Cellino "made a perfectly proper suggestion which is entirely consistent with the FA's regulations". Sounds perfectly reasonable. Suggesting a perfectly legal way to do something, isn't the same as 'a way to get around the rules'; it's obeying the rules.
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Post by bluegas on Sept 29, 2016 7:55:58 GMT
I used to wonder why such-&-such club had bought player so-&-so when the player didn't seem very special. Becomes clearer.
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Post by gassince1957 on Sept 29, 2016 8:03:50 GMT
I used to wonder why such-&-such club had bought player so-&-so when the player didn't seem very special. Becomes clearer. You mean Ollie received a bung to sign Mickey Evans? (Or name 10 other crap players we signed over the last 10 years or so)! Sometimes it's just bad judgement or bad luck - Martin Cameron anybody?
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Post by bluegas on Sept 29, 2016 8:35:20 GMT
I used to wonder why such-&-such club had bought player so-&-so when the player didn't seem very special. Becomes clearer. You mean Ollie received a bung to sign Mickey Evans? (Or name 10 other crap players we signed over the last 10 years or so)! Sometimes it's just bad judgement or bad luck - Martin Cameron anybody? I was more thinking about the massive sleeping giant across the river & the star striker they signed from some mid-European club. Turned out he was a full back who had scored a few goals when pushed up front in an emergency. But yes, been a few odd Gas signings.
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 29, 2016 9:45:58 GMT
Why avoid the prem clubs, yesterday they said 8 managers on the fiddle, today they name championship clubs ! Are they avoiding the Prem clubs ? Has the paper been paid off ? On talk sport yesterday it said that lawyers had stopped them from naming names at the moment, until it had been investigated. I'm guessing add they named the Championship managers, that it was the Premier League managers that they can't name yet.
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Post by newmarketgas on Sept 29, 2016 9:56:30 GMT
Why avoid the prem clubs, yesterday they said 8 managers on the fiddle, today they name championship clubs ! Are they avoiding the Prem clubs ? Has the paper been paid off ? On talk sport yesterday it said that lawyers had stopped them from naming names at the moment, until it had been investigated. I'm guessing add they named the Championship managers, that it was the Premier League managers that they can't name yet. Nice to see money talks, England manager, easy, tick...............Championship teams, easy, tick....................move on to lower league teams later...............Prem, loads of money, we will look at this later, they might just throw the reporters a bung................. Reporters, easy, tick
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Post by RetroGamer on Sept 29, 2016 11:22:00 GMT
Why avoid the prem clubs, yesterday they said 8 managers on the fiddle, today they name championship clubs ! Are they avoiding the Prem clubs ? Has the paper been paid off ? I'd imagine there's a hint of scaremongering involved in that too. Saying you have 8 prem or ex prem managers involved and then naming others must be making people in the game sh*t themselves worrying as who knows how many people they might have on film. I wouldn't remember word for word what I said in a meeting a month ago and with a bit of video editing anything can be manipulated.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 29, 2016 11:29:07 GMT
How is this Rovers, or even 82er's, related? Hoping they'd promote a mid table Div 1 club is not something even NH would have hoped for in the past.
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Post by LJG on Sept 29, 2016 13:28:26 GMT
Controversial Leeds owner Massimo Cellino was also filmed by the Telegraph offering undercover reporters posing as an investment firm a way to get around FA and Fifa third-party ownership rules. In a meeting at Leeds' ground, arranged by football agent Pino Pagliara, Cellino apparently offered to sell shares in the Championship club as a means of funding the purchase of players. The Italian proposed the fictitious firm buy 20% of the club, in return for which it would receive the same percentage of future player sell-on fees. In the video, Cellino says: "I tell you, I spend eight million this year... on new players. "You want to finance that? You want to come 20% in that? You got 20% of the player - it's the only way. "As a shareholder you can finance the club, asking everything you want - percentage - you are allowed to do it in England." Leeds claimed the footage of their owner amounted to a "non-story" as Cellino "made a perfectly proper suggestion which is entirely consistent with the FA's regulations". Sounds perfectly reasonable. Suggesting a perfectly legal way to do something, isn't the same as 'a way to get around the rules'; it's obeying the rules. Weird isn't it? I think the same thing about idiotic butt clenching over "tax avoidance". If there's such a moral obligation not to engage in it, draft the legislation properly.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 29, 2016 13:33:13 GMT
Sounds perfectly reasonable. Suggesting a perfectly legal way to do something, isn't the same as 'a way to get around the rules'; it's obeying the rules. Weird isn't it? I think the same thing about idiotic butt clenching over "tax avoidance". If there's such a moral obligation not to engage in it, draft the legislation properly. Tax avoidance is only for those who can afford it. If they legislate against it properly then they catch everyone. We wouldn't want that now would we. This way, it's only the poor who have to actually pay tax.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Sept 29, 2016 13:46:01 GMT
Weird isn't it? I think the same thing about idiotic butt clenching over "tax avoidance". If there's such a moral obligation not to engage in it, draft the legislation properly. Tax avoidance is only for those who can afford it. If they legislate against it properly then they catch everyone. We wouldn't want that now would we. This way, it's only the poor who have to actually pay tax. Really? I suppose your right the less well off usually just go for tax evasion
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Post by LJG on Sept 29, 2016 14:24:24 GMT
I'd forgotten we do a six monthly hash-out on tax avoidance on here. It's normally a Steve Lansdown thread that kicks it off. I'm glad to have been able to help keep up tradition.
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Post by LJG on Sept 29, 2016 14:26:47 GMT
Weird isn't it? I think the same thing about idiotic butt clenching over "tax avoidance". If there's such a moral obligation not to engage in it, draft the legislation properly. Tax avoidance is only for those who can afford it. If they legislate against it properly then they catch everyone. We wouldn't want that now would we. This way, it's only the poor who have to actually pay tax. Cash in hand work. Two for one buys. ISA investments. All methods of tax avoidance. All exclusive activities of the super-rich.
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Post by gasincider on Sept 29, 2016 15:41:39 GMT
Tax avoidance is only for those who can afford it. If they legislate against it properly then they catch everyone. We wouldn't want that now would we. This way, it's only the poor who have to actually pay tax. Cash in hand work. Two for one buys. ISA investments. All methods of tax avoidance. All exclusive activities of the super-rich. Good god. I feel much better now. I've done cash in hand work, buy two for one items at Tescos and have an ISA with £1 + in it. So just show respect when you talk to me, coz I'm loaded.
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