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Post by darkbluegas on Oct 5, 2016 20:05:29 GMT
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Post by countygroundhotel on Oct 5, 2016 20:28:10 GMT
Sounds like a man desperate to try & 'spin' any success he can out of the competition, I'm sure he's overjoyed at our relatively high attendance last night.
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Oct 5, 2016 21:06:49 GMT
I thought this bit was interesting:
"A sum of £750,000 per season is being made available for the next three years to reward those clubs that provide starting opportunities in Sky Bet EFL fixtures for home-grown players under the age of 21 and are qualified for England (or Wales for Cardiff and Newport)."
I guess we'll miss out on this as all our young players are Welsh.
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Post by amgas on Oct 5, 2016 22:25:27 GMT
Reading that makes me more determined not to have anything to do with this competition ..... The man is an idiot if he does not understand why people have a problem with it. As to opportunities for U21s we are stopped from changing our team to play who we want. Finally given how close we are to wales I see no reason why we should not be rewarded for playing Welsh players, but a bit of an academic point though as I hope it does not continue next year - this fool seems to already believe it will .....
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Post by jonjames on Oct 6, 2016 4:57:44 GMT
This sh** makes me so angry. By saying that the competition could help discover future England players they're trying to put the blame on us for hindering youth development if we protest against it. If they want these young players to experience first team football then they just need to stop the Premier League teams from hording hundreds of players.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 6, 2016 5:04:56 GMT
This sh** makes me so angry. By saying that the competition could help discover future England players they're trying to put the blame on us for hindering youth development if we protest against it. If they want these young players to experience first team football then they just need to stop the Premier League teams from hording hundreds of players. Or, if they are going to force U23 teams through, they should make the rule that any Prem team who wants to enter the competition must field all English players and that they must all actually be under 23.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Oct 6, 2016 5:23:40 GMT
Reading that makes me more determined not to have anything to do with this competition ..... The man is an idiot if he does not understand why people have a problem with it. As to opportunities for U21s we are stopped from changing our team to play who we want. Finally given how close we are to wales I see no reason why we should not be rewarded for playing Welsh players, but a bit of an academic point though as I hope it does not continue next year - this fool seems to already believe it will ..... Bradford subbing their keeper after 3 minutes was class.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Oct 6, 2016 5:24:22 GMT
If anyone still thought going to these games makes no difference imo you need to have a rethink. This man will twist anything to suit him.
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Post by Icegas on Oct 6, 2016 5:57:51 GMT
Don't understand how these younger players will benifit that much by playing a handleful more games at a level most of them are already greater than today eg: most of readings side were at very least of championship standard already
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Post by tommym9 on Oct 6, 2016 6:21:17 GMT
I thought this bit was interesting: "A sum of £750,000 per season is being made available for the next three years to reward those clubs that provide starting opportunities in Sky Bet EFL fixtures for home-grown players under the age of 21 and are qualified for England (or Wales for Cardiff and Newport)." I guess we'll miss out on this as all our young players are Welsh. What is really interesting is that teams will be rewarded for playing young players in the league, but fined for doing the same in the checkatrade trophy
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Post by beaver132 on Oct 6, 2016 6:28:50 GMT
" it's quite clear that the failings of the national team are solely down to the entrenched attitude os teams in L1 and L2. Their selfish attitude of keeping the paint pot trophy to themselves has meant that future England stars have been denied the opportunity of playing against Accrington Stanley on a Tuesday evening. This has led directly to the failings of the national team against Germany, Brazil and Iceland. The smaller clubs need t step up and make sacrifices. They can't rely on Premiership clubs to take the strain, as many of them have to spend all their valuable time making money for foreign owners. Premier ship clubs have been at the forefront of giving players from overseas the very chances that lower league clubs have been denying to our own players. It's about time that lower league clubs sorted out this mess of their own creation so that the rest of us can be proud of the English national team again. A massive payout of nearly £1 has been given to EVERY L1 and L2 club by the premiership, despite the hardships they face week in and week out. Shame on you, supporters of the traitorous L1 and L2 clubs. "
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Post by LJG on Oct 6, 2016 7:22:21 GMT
If anyone still thought going to these games makes no difference imo you need to have a rethink. This man will twist anything to suit him. Yup. Anyone trying to justify going on Tuesday to themselves just have to accept that Harvey will justify their attendance to himself in whatever way he wants as well. They were warned.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 8:02:26 GMT
The ironic thing is that due to the new loan law, most of the promising English youngsters are already loaned at other clubs playing against U23 sides!!
As many others have said, its not really what's happening to this competition (as its always been known as the Mickey mouse trophy) its where it could lead that's the bigger issue.
Fans attending the games are potentially damaging the very club they are there to support.
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Post by helpliner on Oct 6, 2016 8:15:09 GMT
The thing that I don't get is that we have to play so many players who played in the last fixture and not squad players. Yet u23 players are probably squad players who didn't play in the last first team fixture. Is there any qualification required for them? After all they don't even need to be under 21.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 6, 2016 8:58:29 GMT
When are people going to realise that boycotting games has done NOTHING to alter the views of the idiots at the top of the game we love. All it has done has ensured that we have 2 points instead of six because playing in front of a small crowd at home evens the game up. The best way of proving a point was for the League sides to knock each and every one of the Under 23 sides out at the first count.
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Post by oddsongas on Oct 6, 2016 9:04:27 GMT
When are people going to realise that boycotting games has done NOTHING to alter the views of the idiots at the top of the game we love. All it has done has ensured that we have 2 points instead of six because playing in front of a small crowd at home evens the game up. The best way of proving a point was for the League sides to knock each and every one of the Under 23 sides out at the first count. Wrong in so many ways. IMO
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Post by RD on Oct 6, 2016 9:10:52 GMT
When are people going to realise that boycotting games has done NOTHING to alter the views of the idiots at the top of the game we love. All it has done has ensured that we have 2 points instead of six because playing in front of a small crowd at home evens the game up. The best way of proving a point was for the League sides to knock each and every one of the Under 23 sides out at the first count. Wrong in so many ways. IMO Agreed. In other words "we can't make a difference, so what's the point in even trying?". Thank god that throughout history, much of humanity has disagreed with that view.
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Post by tommym9 on Oct 6, 2016 9:13:18 GMT
When are people going to realise that boycotting games has done NOTHING to alter the views of the idiots at the top of the game we love. All it has done has ensured that we have 2 points instead of six because playing in front of a small crowd at home evens the game up. The best way of proving a point was for the League sides to knock each and every one of the Under 23 sides out at the first count. I have to disagree with you there Steve. The boycott has been a success in that its made the national news and given plenty of negative publicity to the changes. This will *hopefully* mean that EFL rethink 'B' teams in the competition next season after this one year trial is over. Also if clubs like ours are making a loss on the 'B' team games, they are much more likely to vote against measures like this in the future. I think fan power has actually made a difference here as so many lower league clubs rely on attendances more than sponsorship and TV money like prem teams.
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Post by newmarketgas on Oct 6, 2016 9:36:28 GMT
Wrong in so many ways. IMO Agreed. In other words "we can't make a difference, so what's the point in even trying?". Thank god that throughout history, much of humanity has disagreed with that view. Including the greens and Trash !
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Post by LJG on Oct 6, 2016 9:56:00 GMT
When are people going to realise that boycotting games has done NOTHING to alter the views of the idiots at the top of the game we love. All it has done has ensured that we have 2 points instead of six because playing in front of a small crowd at home evens the game up. The best way of proving a point was for the League sides to knock each and every one of the Under 23 sides out at the first count. And then the argument is "Well no u23 teams even got through the first round so it didn't affect the competition at all therefore we're satisfied that u23 teams in the league will not affect that competition either and have decided to go ahead with it".
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