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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 22:40:46 GMT
i think mansell has been a fantastic leader and player for us but with the new loan signings has found himself pushed out. who knows he may yet have a role to play this season?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 9:34:20 GMT
I can't see how Manse couldn't perform just as well as either Sinclair or Clarke in midfield.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 30, 2016 12:24:31 GMT
Just interested to know what others think about our central midfielders this season with a mark out of 10 ?
Here's mine:
Sinclair 7.5 Lines 7.5 O. Clarke 6 Boetang 6.5 Colkett 6
Don't think any of them have let us down. Our problems are defence and out wide. On and relying on Taylor too much for goals.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 30, 2016 12:57:23 GMT
I guess that depends on how effective you think Sincs is as a midfielder along side the likes of Lines & Boetang, whilst you can't knock is effort what does he actually bring to the team, were we more effective with a Mansell type player holding the CM together?
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Post by grayraydon on Nov 30, 2016 13:12:24 GMT
I guess that depends on how effective you think Sincs is as a midfielder along side the likes of Lines & Boetang, whilst you can't knock is effort what does he actually bring to the team, were we more effective with a Mansell type player holding the CM together? I think he brings a lot of combativeness, he's constantly harrying and hassling the oppo, which can pressure them into mistakes, and not give them time to settle on the ball and take their time over passes, along with his constant tackling. As for the oft trotted out line that 'he never makes a forward pass, all he ever does is sideways and backwards passes' perhaps that's his instructions from DC, and at the same time if he's passing it sideways and backwards to one of our players surely that's better than giving the ball away all the time while trying to feed the strikers/wingers, a defensive mid is exactly that, defensive, I think if you were to go back over someone like Makeleles performances I'm sure you wouldn't have seen many forward passes from him either, that's not he was in the team for, he is there to win the ball and give it someone more skillful for the attacking phase of play.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 30, 2016 18:50:13 GMT
To add to Grayraydon's comments - He's got good technique - brings a ball under control as well as any of the others, is good at shielding the ball, most of his forward passes are accurate. All that matters massively if you don't want to let the opposition have the ball more.
The only thing that let's him down is that most of his shots fail to hit the target but you can say that about the rest of our midfield too !
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Post by Newton Abbot Gas on Nov 30, 2016 19:06:18 GMT
I guess that depends on how effective you think Sincs is as a midfielder along side the likes of Lines & Boetang, whilst you can't knock is effort what does he actually bring to the team, were we more effective with a Mansell type player holding the CM together? I think he brings a lot of combativeness, he's constantly harrying and hassling the oppo, which can pressure them into mistakes, and not give them time to settle on the ball and take their time over passes, along with his constant tackling. As for the oft trotted out line that 'he never makes a forward pass, all he ever does is sideways and backwards passes' perhaps that's his instructions from DC, and at the same time if he's passing it sideways and backwards to one of our players surely that's better than giving the ball away all the time while trying to feed the strikers/wingers, a defensive mid is exactly that, defensive, I think if you were to go back over someone like Makeleles performances I'm sure you wouldn't have seen many forward passes from him either, that's not he was in the team for, he is there to win the ball and give it someone more skillful for the attacking phase of play. Exactly.....and the best forum thread ever .....Fear The Beard....UTG
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 20:17:56 GMT
I guess that depends on how effective you think Sincs is as a midfielder along side the likes of Lines & Boetang, whilst you can't knock is effort what does he actually bring to the team, were we more effective with a Mansell type player holding the CM together? I think he brings a lot of combativeness, he's constantly harrying and hassling the oppo, which can pressure them into mistakes, and not give them time to settle on the ball and take their time over passes, along with his constant tackling. As for the oft trotted out line that 'he never makes a forward pass, all he ever does is sideways and backwards passes' perhaps that's his instructions from DC, and at the same time if he's passing it sideways and backwards to one of our players surely that's better than giving the ball away all the time while trying to feed the strikers/wingers, a defensive mid is exactly that, defensive, I think if you were to go back over someone like Makeleles performances I'm sure you wouldn't have seen many forward passes from him either, that's not he was in the team for, he is there to win the ball and give it someone more skillful for the attacking phase of play. . Yeah, but he often gives it to Lockyer. And that blokes passing ability is nothing short of pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 23:33:24 GMT
Just interested to know what others think about our central midfielders this season with a mark out of 10 ? Here's mine: Sinclair 7.5 Lines 7.5 O. Clarke 6 Boetang 6.5 Colkett 6 Don't think any of them have let us down. Our problems are defence and out wide. On and relying on Taylor too much for goals. for me the problem has been that only ollie clarke is suited to the holding defensive midfield role[sinclair is better harrasing and chasing] and i dont think ollie is good enough to do the role game in game out
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 1, 2016 5:23:56 GMT
I think he brings a lot of combativeness, he's constantly harrying and hassling the oppo, which can pressure them into mistakes, and not give them time to settle on the ball and take their time over passes, along with his constant tackling. As for the oft trotted out line that 'he never makes a forward pass, all he ever does is sideways and backwards passes' perhaps that's his instructions from DC, and at the same time if he's passing it sideways and backwards to one of our players surely that's better than giving the ball away all the time while trying to feed the strikers/wingers, a defensive mid is exactly that, defensive, I think if you were to go back over someone like Makeleles performances I'm sure you wouldn't have seen many forward passes from him either, that's not he was in the team for, he is there to win the ball and give it someone more skillful for the attacking phase of play. . Yeah, but he often gives it to Lockyer. And that blokes passing ability is nothing short of pathetic. At least it's not to Matty eh?
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 1, 2016 8:32:41 GMT
I guess that depends on how effective you think Sincs is as a midfielder along side the likes of Lines & Boetang, whilst you can't knock is effort what does he actually bring to the team, were we more effective with a Mansell type player holding the CM together? I think he brings a lot of combativeness, he's constantly harrying and hassling the oppo, which can pressure them into mistakes, and not give them time to settle on the ball and take their time over passes, along with his constant tackling. As for the oft trotted out line that 'he never makes a forward pass, all he ever does is sideways and backwards passes' perhaps that's his instructions from DC, and at the same time if he's passing it sideways and backwards to one of our players surely that's better than giving the ball away all the time while trying to feed the strikers/wingers, a defensive mid is exactly that, defensive, I think if you were to go back over someone like Makeleles performances I'm sure you wouldn't have seen many forward passes from him either, that's not he was in the team for, he is there to win the ball and give it someone more skillful for the attacking phase of play. But if we're shipping goals for fun at present is all that constantly hassling the oppo actually of any real benefit, if he stopped doing that would we let in even more goals? Or would we have a more stable midfield and we wouldn't have to mess about with diamond formations but could play with wingers?
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